Wikijunior talk:The Elements/Bose-Einstein condensates

Not needed/too complicated
Bose-Einstein Condensates are far to advanced and complicated to be easily explained in a children's book. If we explain this we should explain Super-solids and super-liquids, which would turn this book more about physics and states of matter rather than about elements. N1person 00:17, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

Not convinced, yet.
I disagree, I'm not totally convinced. You could quite possibly be right, but The original author included B-E condensates as one of the five states of matter. So I created and extrapolated it. Perhaps you could contribute to the project and rectify it? Cheers --Read-write-services 04:16, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

Too complicated, too esoteric
I think that for 8-12 year olds, this is more than a bit too advanced. I see no reason to include this, because it would be very difficult for children to relate to. —Preceding unsigned comment added by FerrousWolf (discuss • contribs) 03:38, 14 February 2007

Not appropriate for this age level
The reading level and concept load of this is too high for this age level. Suggest dropping it from this book. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kfasimpaur (discuss • contribs) 22:59, 18 May 2007


 * I agree. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.150.225.214 (discuss • contribs) 17:45, 29 October 2007


 * Perhaps just mentioning that there are other states of matter and talking about how they differ from the "big 4" states in an article called something like "other states of matter" might be a good idea. -- xixtas  talk 14:55, 6 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Perhaps a compromise may be in order, a section on the main page about states of matter that briefly mentions other parts of matter, but does not go too deep into detail. The topic of Bose-Einstein Condensates is much too convoluted and esoteric for the target age group to understand. Given that there's nothing within the book's page nor any pages in the book link back to it via hyperlink, I propose that the page be deleted. RoofToilet1107 (discuss • contribs) 00:55, 3 April 2017 (UTC)


 * You've noted the related fragments of discussion at 1, 2?
 * I think the current text in the book is pretty good; it doesn't say the four phases are the only ones, just the main ones, so, no lying on that point, and the discussion seems to me to hang together pretty well. I don't see where a mention of other phases would fit in without just confusing things.  Do you have thoughts on how to weave it in?  (I don't think deletion is really called for, btw; I'd recommend either a history merge, or simply a hatnote on the page explaining its status.)  --Pi zero (discuss • contribs) 04:49, 8 April 2017 (UTC)