Wikijunior talk:Summer Flowers of Northern New England

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Aren't the pages going to be quite large once all the flowers are transcluded into them? What is the reasoning behind not linking to the flowers from the chapter pages? -- Adrignola talk contribs 00:15, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I guess it could get pretty large. I wasn't sure I was going to like it with the transclusions, so I only changed the white ones.  I might end up linking again before it's all over, especially if it helps to force page breaks when it comes time to create the PDF. --Jomegat (talk) 00:37, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Oh - and the reasoning was because I didn't want to have a list of plants in the final PDF version. I like to go straight to pictures.  That does not mean we can't switch back to the list though - it would be a small matter to not include the list pages in the collection when I make it.  An index would sure be nice though.  --Jomegat (talk) 00:39, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
 * And now that I come to think of it, Pediapress doesn't offer color pages :-( That means I will probably be printing a copy myself or going to a place like Lulu. --Jomegat (talk) 00:41, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

OK, what do you think of this? I kinda like the graphical TOC, as it will serve as a quick visual reference. A kid could figure out the flower color, flip to the correct color section, and scan the page(s). Then follow the link to the plant's page and read about it and see more pictures. Works for me! --Jomegat (talk) 01:52, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I do like the appearance of it. I only notice a minor problem for usability.  A child wanting to know more about a flower might click the picture and not the link, so they would then get taken to the picture's page instead of the plant's page. -- Adrignola talk contribs 04:26, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I tried to fix that, but had no luck. My initial use of this work will be in print form though, so there's time to fix it. --Jomegat (talk) 04:55, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
 * After much experimentation, I came across Template:Click which helped tremendously. It's a little buggy though, so captioning and linking elsewhere are not simultaneously available.  So I had to resort to subterfuge to get the captions.  The wiki markup is ugly, but the result looks pretty OK.  Clicking the photo now leads to the plant's page within the book. --Jomegat (talk) 01:18, 11 June 2009 (UTC)


 * I've cleaned up the markup by removing unnecessary code and using a template I made to simplifying things, . The nice thing is that using this template you can resize the thumbnails on the fly by changing a value in one location only. -- Adrignola talk contribs 02:14, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Sweet. Though I am well aware of the "../" shortcut, I wasn't using it because it didn't work in one of my earlier experiments.  Thanks for re-instating it.  This approach will also allow an easy rename in the future if anyone ever desires to do so.  I was also thinking about creating Template:WJ Flower Row to create a row of four cells and reuse the binomial variable(s).  That way it would have forced consistency. Thanks for making things better! --Jomegat (talk) 02:19, 11 June 2009 (UTC)