Wikijunior talk:Languages/Italian

this article makes the major linguistic blunder of confusing "dialects of Italy" with "dialects of Italian",. Pedemontese is most emphatically NOT a dialect of Italian, but a language of Italy (recognised as such by UNESCO). If one must refer to it as a dialect, it needs to be made clear, at least, that it is not a dialect of Italian. In fact, I would say that a talk about dialects of Italy has no place in an article about Italian, as they are very distinct linguistic entities, especially those dialecs/langauges spoken above the Rimini-La Spezia line, as is Pedemontese. --Dakrismeno (talk) 13:24, 16 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Even if one were to stipulate that the linguistic distinction is as absolute as you assert, its consequences for the article are not &mdash; because that passage is in the section on history, where it's perfectly reasonable to mention languages other than Italian. --Pi zero (talk) 17:58, 16 March 2009 (UTC)
 * there is no need for stipulations. The vast majority of the relevant literature (e.g. Lepschy et al. 1996; Marcato 2002, Pellegrini 1975, Rohlfs 1937, among others) separates the Italic branch from the Gallo-Romance (and thus Gallo-Italic) one (to which Pedemontese belongs). So, although it is perfectly reasonable to mention other languages, it is certainly incorrect (or at least irreconcilable with the whole of the literature on Romance linguistics) to claim that "Piedemontese is a dialect of italian". --Dakrismeno (talk) 13:16, 17 March 2009 (UTC)