Wikibooks:Requests for permissions/Ryan524

+Administrator
I know i am new, but just please hear me out, i am already a sysop on the english wikinews and have fot an award for fighting vandalism their, see wikinews:User:Ryan524, and i got 0 oppose votes when i nominated on Wikinews, see wikinews:Wikinews:Administrators/Archive i had techniacally ony 4 votes i know, thats couting the bureaucrat that made me a sysop, cause the final say on wikinews goes to a bureaucrat). And i would like to extend the scope of my work to here, i am already creating two wikiversity schools, writing many books for the classes/lessons of each and also i fight vandalism, and I find while admins powers are't needed, it makes my job of doing it easier, and with the frequency i do it (atleast on wikinews, it gets stressfull when i don't even have the rollback button, muchless when i have to find a sysop online to block them).
 * Response to request verifying i am also the owner of User Ryan524 on Wikinews: wikinews:User_talk:Ryan524.--Ryan524 05:17, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)


 * Support: Ryan524 has been very active in eliminating vandalism over at Wikinews over the past month. If even half as active over here, it would be a great help. Most importantly, Ryan524 is a administrator over at Wikinews already. I didn't see any of the abruptness that one supporter of his adminship commented on. One slight reservation that I have, is Ryan524's relatively low numbers of edits, especially on Wikibooks (with 364, 295, and 17 edits on Wikipedia, Wikinews, and Wikibooks respectively; 676 edits in total, if that is important to you). (Donovan|Geocachernemesis|Interact) 11:08, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * I'm slightly concerned that Ryan524 hasn't contributed to Wikibooks in almost a month. I had hoped the he would assist with fighting vandalism here. Consequently, my enthusiasm for his promotion has waned somewhat. (Donovan|Geocachernemesis|Interact) 00:22, 12 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Sometimes people have rather busy schedules that come in cycles. We can give Ryan some more time and see if he is still interested. MShonle 02:40, 12 July 2005 (UTC)
 * I'm not withdrawing my support, I want to give Ryan some more time too. (Donovan|Geocachernemesis|Interact) 03:23, 12 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Oppose: While we certainly could use some more admins... and somebody with admin experience could be useful in some situations here on Wikibooks, I think Ryan524 should gain a little experience trying to actually write a Wikibook here first, and get to know the situation here from an ordinary user viewpoint first. Mind you, I don't oppose him due to any specific issue, but I feel that somebody who is going to be given the power to delete content and in general get some "stripes" in terms of having more "privileges" here should get to know some of the policies more carefully.  For instance, involvement in the VfD discussion is a way to test a user to see if they understand deletion policies.  And writing a Wikibook is hard, as everybody who has been here for awhile can attest to.  Wikinews is a very different environment than Wikibooks, and you have to be considerably more patient with new users here and let them experiment much more than is tolerated over at Wikinews... for a good reason.  A random news article like Harry Potter dies in Wizard duel is likely going to get deleted immediately, but a Harry Potter "news article" of a similar nature would not only be tolerated but encouraged here (provided it was a part of a larger Wikibook).  If he gets involved with Wikibooks even to a small degree...writing his own Wikibook (like for instance a guide to using Wikinews even) with some of the common frustrations of trying to get content organized into a book, I would support him instead. --Rob Horning 23:16, 7 August 2005 (UTC)

I'm tempted to agree with Rob on this one, so I'm going to deny this request for now. As you may already know, I'm trying to cut down the length of time it takes to get a definite response for such requests, so I'd rather make a decision now, than let the guy hang on forever in anticipation.

After having chatted to some of the Wikimedia founders, sysadmins and other veterans on IRC, the consensus seems to be that being an admin on one site should not have much bearing on becoming an admin on other sites. In fact, if he spends most of his time on Wikinews, he's probably not going to spend much time on here.

Also, having looked thru his edit history on this site, I don't think he's quite had enough experience with this site to be admin'd just yet. Wikibooks is without doubt the most awkward site to manage due to its rather unusual naming policy. After Ryan has gained a bit more editing experience, he is free to re-apply (although more likely I or another admin will nominate him when this is the case).

I shall archive this section approximately one week from today. - Aya T C 01:59, 8 August 2005 (UTC)