Wikibooks:Requests for deletion/Wikiversity 2

Wikiversity
I'm proposing the deletion of all Wikiversity pages and their related pages on this project as having been transwiki to a more appropriate wiki. From what I understand 6 months to move everything was originally requested and 6 months ended on Feb 15th, 2007. One Wikiversity custodian (thats an admin for anyone unfamiliar with Wikiversity terminology), I talked to about it, is satisfied that everything of importance has been imported. --dark lama  03:48, 30 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Comment - proceed with caution as it appears that some people are still contributing to the Wikiversity pages here, e.g. . Webaware talk 09:03, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment - I do agree this should go (and having been saying so for sometime). However can we get Johnny's views on whether this is now OK - I know he had some dates a while back for this to become possible -- Herby  talk thyme 12:29, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment -- I wish we could have gotten the "scrapbook" concept off the ground for this kind of thing, since a lot of the old WV material can probably be incorporated into other books or made into "substantial" stubs for topics where there is no other textbook. A lot of it really is fodder for the dustbin though, and as far as people still contributing to WV materials here on wikibooks, they shouldn't be doing so, and perhaps we should come up with a template message to alert contributors about the new project. The only thing I'd ask is that people do a search on wikiversity before marking for delete, and if nothing along the lines of the topic already exists on wv, maybe leave me a not on my talk page so I can import it (Special:Import is enabled from Wikibooks, and I am an admin a Custodian there.-- SB_Johnny | talk 13:57, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment - A two phase transition process could be used. The first phase could involve speedy deleting all pages which haven't had any recent activity and minimizing the main Wikiverity page and include the usual impending doom notice on it. Also add impending doom notice to all pages which still have activity on it and try to notify the contributors. The second phase would involve deleting what remains of it after contributors have been notified and any wanted material has been imported to Wikiversity, merged into an existing book or turned into a more appropriate textbook. --dark [[Image:Yin yang.svg|12px]] lama 14:17, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Request: An attempt was made to mark Wikiversity pages when they were copied to Wikiversity. When the Wikiversity pages are deleted, if any additional Wikiversity pages are found that are not marked as having been moved to Wikiversity, please list them at v:Wikiversity:Import and give us a chance to import the pages before they are deleted. --JWSurf 16:06, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep - Wikiversity is being linked by many external sites to wikibooks domain. Academic papers, like this one link here. What could be made is blanking the pages with a link to the new location. --Javier Carro 05:35, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment. I just tried to import Wikiversity to v:Wikiversity:Wikiversity and learned that there is a bug in the page import function. Apparently the bug prevents all of the page history from being imported if the page has a long history of edits. I was told that it might be much later this year before the bug is fixed. Until we can capture the full history of the Wikiversity page at the Wikiversity website, please do not delete this one page. I agree with, Javier: rather than delete the Wikiversity page why not make it a soft redirect to another page such as www.wikiversity.org? --JWSurf 17:12, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
 * If I understand correctly, this isn't exactly a "bug", but rather an intended limit. I'd like to ask a bug request that allows re-import from "all versions later than...", so that multi-stage imports could be performed without overstressing the servers. I'm guessing they just want to avoid people trying to export/import extremely long-historied pages such as Main Page, which might have hundreds of thousands of edits. -- SB_Johnny | talk 10:10, 19 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Comment - I would lean towards keeping at least the page Wikiversity. It seems to me that it shows that there is some historical significance of Wikiversity at Wikibooks, and also, if updated could allow for and encourage greater collaboration between the two projects. However, it does seem like more than one or two considerate and thoughtful pages on Wikiversity may not be in Wikibook's best interest. --Remi 05:53, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
 * How about renaming the main Wikiversity page to Wikiversity, and move these "historical" pages out of the main namespace? The discussion on the talk page of Talk:Wikiversity is very critical in terms of the history of Wikiversity, and the relationship between Wikiversity and Wikibook.  This seems to be a huge deal right now with some of the other language Wikibooks projects, where arguments seem to be going on to define this difference, and the full impact of Wikiversity hasn't been explored in as much depth as it has with en.wikiversity.  Certainly a major disclaimer/warning notice ought to be on the top of this page, letting people reading the page know it really is an historical page and not a current active part of Wikibooks.  I do agree that this page in particular perhaps ought to be saved here too for the reason that the links to user accounts (while many of the same users did create accounts on Wikiversity using the same name), would put the user names into the correct context.  Also, most of the links (especially on the talk page) are made in context with Wikibooks and not Wikiversity.  I see that some of the links have been changed to Wikiversity for content that was Wikiversity related, but the point still holds.  Similar historical pages about Wikibooks on Wikipedia still exist at Wikipedia.  --Rob Horning 17:50, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Getting it out of the main namespace seems reasonable to me, especially considering the state of the current page. The page "Wikiversity" isn't exactly a book. --Remi 15:19, 2 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Comment - Ok, If I understand correctly, the consensus so far seems to be to keep the main page for "historical" reasons, delete everything that has been marked as having already been imported to Wikiversity, and than delete everything else once the Wikiversity custodians have imported everything else that might be wanted? --dark lama  12:23, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
 * I think you're reading it about right there :). -- SB_Johnny | talk 13:30, 2 June 2007 (UTC)