Wikibooks:Requests for deletion/Suicide

Suicide
I have nominated this book for a vote. The book is only 2 days old. It was tagged for speedy deletion by Thewinster but Hoogli (the original author) has queried the deletion on the talk page. --ЗAНИA talk 00:52, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
 * [[Image:Symbol keep vote.svg|15px]] Keep I can see why this book makes many people feel uncomfortable, but I don't see it as a NPOV violation, any more than a book teaching people how to program in C++ advocates the use of it. Of course, as the creator of that book, I could be seen as biased towards keeping it... Hoogli (talk) 01:50, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I'd like to see what this book becomes. If it's a how-to guide for committing suicide, I think it should definitely go.  But if it becomes an information source for those considering suicide, it could be a lifesaving resource. --Jomegat (talk) 01:56, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
 * What's wrong about telling people how they can commit suicide? Or a more relevant question, what rule on Wikibooks says that this kind of book is not allowed? Hoogli (talk) 02:01, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
 * First of all, Wikibooks is censored by community consensus, so if we decide it goes, it goes. However, I don't see any necessary conflict between Wikibooks' mission and a text on suicide, even if it instructs how to do so. Such a text would be valuable (for example) to doctors in The Netherlands, where assisted suicide is legal. However, I'd want to see a very clear scope and outline laid out before I'd vote to keep this text. Perhaps Hoogli would do so now, so we can discuss their plans for this book sensibly instead of on the basis of what each of us imagines their plans to be. – Mike.lifeguard  &#124; talk 02:11, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I am under the impression that the vast majority of people who take their own lives are mentally ill when they do so. Providing such how-to information to the mentally ill strikes me as a violation of their human rights.  --Jomegat (talk) 04:22, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
 * [[Image:Symbol keep vote.svg|15px]] Keep. What would be POV is if some of us deleted this userbook because of our beliefs about suicide. Keeping this book is the NPOV course. It meets the definition of a textbook, so the textbook status of Suicide is not an issue. Cilantrohead (talk) 05:51, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm not ready to make a decision, and I'm not sure it would be wise to keep or delete this book, until more content is added so that the nature of the content in this book on such a sensitive topic is written. - Anonymous Dissident  Talk 12:52, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
 * As of yet i'm not sure what to make of this book. I would like to request that the VFD be put on hold, or at least kept open, until the book's scope has been clarified. However if it becomes clear that the book is a how-to guide for commiting suicide, or anything of the sort, I would be very uncomfortable with it remaining on wikibooks. However I will reserve judgement until a proper outline has been written. Reece   (Talk)   (Contributions)  14:21, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I agree here. If the book is providing instruction in suicide, I would be uneasy about its remaining here. If it discusses the length and breadth of the topic, then that's another story. --- Anonymous Dissident  Talk 15:21, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
 * It's too early to make a decision about a book which is only a few days old. If the book later included instructions on how to commit suicide then I'd wanted it deleted because it would be impossible to maintain a NPOV rather than for moral reasons. Anyway suicide is legal in most countries (no idea about the USA) but assisted-suicide is illegal. --ЗAНИA [[Image:Flag_of_Italy.svg|15px]]talk 20:31, 3 April 2008 (UTC)