Wikibooks:Requests for deletion/Pinyin

Pinyin
Similar to English-Hanzi, should unverified news be deleted? --Jusjih (discuss • contribs) 03:41, 16 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Pinyin/Afghan MP killed in Kabul bomb blast
 * Pinyin/Afghan policeman kills 10 colleagues
 * Pinyin/Afghan Taliban announce new leader
 * Pinyin/Afghanistan blast kills 10
 * Pinyin/Afghanistan Kabul mosque suicide attack kills dozens
 * Pinyin/Afghanistan opium production up 43%
 * Rather than delete them, I think it should suffice if these news articles are cited from the source which they are taken from. For instance, the last article which you have linked above is exactly the headline of this BBC article.  Leaderboard (discuss • contribs) 04:04, 16 June 2018 (UTC)
 * News sites have no sense of humor regarding copying of their material; it's their livelihood, after all. Wikinews has extremely stiff anti-plagiarism standards (no, not just copyright violation, plagiarism).  I recommend against Wikibooks poaching on Wikinews territory, in this regard.  --Pi zero (discuss • contribs) 07:42, 16 June 2018 (UTC)
 * n:Wikinews:Newsworthiness excludes 8-day old events, so even if verified, Wikinews will not accept them. If we cannot keep them here, maybe Wikipedia has articles to retrofit them, like history of Afghanistan. The same way may apply to deleted unverified news under English-Hanzi.--Jusjih (discuss • contribs) 18:47, 16 June 2018 (UTC)


 * I'm only responding to the initial question. To Wikibooks the validity of the any news (linked or referenced) is irrelevant if it does not constitute the basis of the book's project and even then the burden is (and should be) reversed to prove that the information is false, before taking action. In any case single page deletions of an active project should always be first discussed on that project's talk page. --Panic (discuss • contribs) 01:01, 17 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Category:Book:Pinyin has even more unverified news.--Jusjih (discuss • contribs) 17:31, 27 June 2018 (UTC)
 * If something looks like a news article, and is part of a bunch of things that look like news articles, and isn't vetted by the standards of actual news articles, its publication does active harm in, and to, the world. The very fact that Wikibooks is not set up, infrastructurally, to apply these sorts of standards rigorously makes it unsuited to hosting such material.  --Pi zero (discuss • contribs) 22:31, 27 June 2018 (UTC)


 * 1)  as to prevent deletion as no one stated opposition . Even on close remember to make a note on the project's talk page and if Jusjih is interested in saving his "verification work", he can probably create a template and tag all the "offending" pages if no one objects or at least place his research/conclusions or opinions on the relevant page's talk. --Panic (discuss • contribs) 21:16, 27 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Symbol delete vote.svg Delete per discussion above. --Pi zero (discuss • contribs) 22:33, 27 June 2018 (UTC)
 * A wikibook that purports to teach Pinyin (a romanization of Chinese) should not host unverified news items. While one could claim that these are not supposed to be true sentences, merely example sentences to be used in teaching Pinyin, I would argue that it is in poor taste to use unverified news as example sentences to teach a language. Furthermore, the sentences found in the pages appear to by copyvio, e.g. "An Afghan lawmaker and at least three other people have been killed in a bomb explosion in the capital, Kabul"; to keep these, one would have to argue fair use or de minimis. A similar deletion discussion is in Requests for deletion/English-Hanzi. --Dan Polansky (discuss • contribs) 08:36, 22 July 2018 (UTC)

Yes my learners are having issues with all the answers and it would be great if it was taken down and replaced with an up to date version if possible.
 * Am I supposed to delete my own nominations after long time? There are even more unverified news with other than Hanyu Pinyin:

--Jusjih (discuss • contribs) 03:52, 4 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Pinyin/Air attacks kill civilians in Syria
 * Pinyin/Air attacks target Yemen schools
 * Pinyin/Air France flight in bomb scare
 * Pinyin/Air India worker sucked into engine
 * Pinyin/Al Jazeera to cut 500 jobs
 * Pinyin/Al-Qaeda and Boko Haram attack Niger army
 * Pinyin/Al-Shabaab kills 9 in Mogadishu
 * Pinyin/Al-Shabab kills Christians in Kenya
 * Pinyin/Alibaba to buy South China Morning Post
 * Pinyin/All that the soul asks of a confidante is understanding (copyvio?)
 * Pinyin/Americans killed in Jordan
 * Pinyin/Ankara car bomb kills 27
 * Pinyin/Anti-IS activist gunned down in Turkey
 * Pinyin/Anti-Trump protests sweep US cities
 * Pinyin/Apple apologizes after racism outcry
 * Pinyin/Apple iPhone sales beat estimates
 * Pinyin/Apple loses trademark fight in China
 * Pinyin/April temperature breaks record
 * Pinyin/Archbishop Tutu wants right to die
 * As no one has comment for weeks, I am deleting them gradually, but more will be found.--Jusjih (discuss • contribs) 01:35, 25 September 2018 (UTC)
 * I've deleted a bunch of them. The difficulty is that it's tricky to prove copyright violation for some of them, moreover, Special:Nuke does not work as the created were created too early. Leaderboard (discuss • contribs) 20:27, 25 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Yes, I see your deleted pages prefixed "Pinyin/". Our main concern is the book pages being out of scope, whether copyvios or not, like these:

--Jusjih (discuss • contribs) 04:39, 30 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Pinyin/At least 13 dead in California bus crash (2016-10-23)
 * Pinyin/At least 53 dead in Cameroon derailment (2016-10-21)
 * Pinyin/Argentina sinks Chinese fishing boat
 * Pinyin/Army seizes third of rebel-held Aleppo
 * Pinyin/Asia's investors cheer Fed's move (2015-12-17)
 * Pinyin/Attack in Israel (2015-11-21)
 * Pinyin/Attack on Shia pilgrims in Iraq kills 77 (2016-11-24)
 * Pinyin/Australia bicycle crash (2016-03-21)
 * Pinyin/Avalanche kills 6 in Italian Alps (2016-03-12)
 * I wouldn't call them out of scope, rather, I actually like the idea of using real-life examples to understand the language. It's the copyvio that's the issue for me, not the concept itself. Leaderboard (discuss • contribs) 00:41, 25 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Yes. Copying too many news-like titles creates suspicion. These should likely be deleted as well:

--Jusjih (discuss • contribs) 03:20, 10 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Pinyin/Abortion rates highest in London
 * Pinyin/B-52 bomber flies over South Korea (2016-01-10)
 * Pinyin/Baghdad car bomb kills dozens (2016-05-11)
 * Pinyin/Ban on children's online junk food ads (2016-12-08)
 * Pinyin/Bank governor says inflation will rise (2016-10-14)
 * Pinyin/Beijing issues first red smog alert (2015-12-07)
 * Pinyin/Beijing issues second smog red alert (2015-12-18)
 * Pinyin/Beijing issues severe smog warning (2015-11-29)
 * Pinyin/Beijing smog keeps students indoors (2015-12-01)
 * Pinyin/Belgians break EU-Canada deal deadlock (2016-10-27)
 * Pinyin/Besieged Yemen city to get aid (2015-12-17)
 * Pinyin/Blasts kill many near Istanbul stadium (2016-12-11)
 * Pinyin/Bodies of 15 migrants found in Sinai (2015-11-15)
 * Pinyin/Body found in Chinese switched-off lift (2016-03-06)
 * Pinyin/Boeing to cut more than 4,500 jobs (2016-03-30)
 * Pinyin/Bomb blast kills police in Turkey (2016-03-31)
 * Go ahead. I think this has been discussed for long enough. Leaderboard (discuss • contribs) 03:22, 10 December 2018 (UTC)

Pinyin
Similar to Requests for deletion/English-Hanzi and continuing from Requests for deletion/Pinyin, should more unverified news be deleted? --Jusjih (discuss • contribs) 01:48, 25 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Pinyin/11 bodies found at Cape Verde base
 * Pinyin/43% smoke again after giving birth
 * Pinyin/A child marriage stopped in Pakistan
 * Pinyin/California woman carrying human skull on stick prompts investigation
 * Pinyin/Delhi shuts schools as smog worsens
 * Pinyin/Iran introduces credit cards for first time
 * Pinyin/Olympic torch given to Brazilians
 * Pinyin/Put pedestrians first to tackle air pollution in London
 * Yes. We cannot allow spoof in any projects and they are poor learning resources anyway. Delete will be the obvious course of action. I am sure there are more but thanks Jusjih for bringing these out. --Cohaf (discuss • contribs) 15:58, 4 April 2019 (UTC)

Pinyin
I've looked through the subpages of this book and while most pages can be fixed by adding pinyin (with actual tone marking) and their equivalent in Mandarin Chinese, pages like Pinyin/Hubble spots evidence of water plumes on Jupiter’s moon Europa & Pinyin/N Korea fires missiles (2016-03-21) seems odd to be included here. In fact, some of these are original research and lacks verifiability. --Minorax (discuss • contribs) 03:38, 22 May 2021 (UTC)
 * If there is a need to tag all pages for deletion, I'll tag it using AWB but would prefer being under pseudobot throughout the process. --Minorax (discuss • contribs) 03:38, 22 May 2021 (UTC)
 * See also Requests for deletion/Pinyin. --Minorax (discuss • contribs) 16:15, 22 May 2021 (UTC)


 * although I'm not a Chinese speaker, I've looked through a few of these and they look very out-of place for a language guide. Just far too many subpages, and many our dubious phrases anyway, how often would you need to be able to speak "At least 42 people have drowned after a migrant boat capsized off the Egyptian coast, officials say."? -- Jules (Mrjulesd) 13:30, 24 May 2021 (UTC)
 * I as a native Chinese speaker deleted many subpages resembling news per earlier discussions while unacceptable on Wikinews as events older than 7 days, even if verifiable events. Listing which to delete will be greatly appreciated.--Jusjih (discuss • contribs) 04:53, 26 May 2021 (UTC)
 * see this. --Minorax (discuss • contribs) 05:34, 26 May 2021 (UTC)