Wikibooks:Requests for deletion/Hiking in the Canadian Rockies

Transwiki Hi! Sorry for nominating so many at once - I'd like to nominate the above books for export to Wikivoyage, the WMF's travel guide project. They are largely incomplete and could be integrated well either into existing articles on WV or the site's guide framework. Let me know what you think! :) --Nicholasjf21 (discuss • contribs) 22:54, 5 February 2014 (UTC)
 * 1) Hiking in the Canadian Rockies
 * 2) London
 * 3) South East Queensland
 * 4) Texas State Travel Guide
 * 5) Teaching Assistant in France Survival Guide
 * 6) Enjoy Tokyo
 * 7) Guide to Electrical Equipment for Travelers
 * 8) Colico
 * On a procedural note, there is nothing to prevent Wikivoyage importing the books, regardless of the outcome of this discussion. However, I thought I'd note that Transwiki import is not enabled for Wikivoyage from Wikibooks and nor does any usergroup have the importupload right needed to complete an XML upload. You will therefore need to make a request at Meta for a Steward to do the import or to add the userright temporarily to a trusted user / admin. QuiteUnusual (discuss • contribs) 14:08, 6 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the heads-up! How long do discussions of this nature normally take on Wikibooks before consensus is formed? I wouldn't want to appeal for a steward's assistance prematurely. --Nicholasjf21 (discuss • contribs) 02:13, 9 February 2014 (UTC)
 * You don't need to wait for this discussion. Importing the material to Wikivoyage won't have any effect on Wikibooks, so that can happen while we're still discussing it here.  --Pi zero (discuss • contribs) 03:01, 9 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks very much! Request submitted here. --Nicholasjf21 (discuss • contribs) 22:50, 9 February 2014 (UTC)


 * Note that I've tagged the individual books with rfd and notified (what appeared to be) the primary authors with rfd warning (except the editors of Guide to Electrical Equipment for Travelers, which was transwikied from Wikipedia and doesn't seem to have attracted any significant authors since then). - dcljr (discuss • contribs) 04:49, 6 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks! I'm not ultra familiar with how things work over here. :) --Nicholasjf21 (discuss • contribs) 04:54, 6 February 2014 (UTC)
 * That's OK, neither am I. [g] - dcljr (discuss • contribs) 04:56, 6 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Seems right to me... now that there is a place better suited to these things, a transwiki seems to be the most obvious choice. I know I would not have expected to find travel guides on a textbook site... Chazz (talk) 07:02, 6 February 2014 (UTC)
 * It's always been controversial to limit Wikibooks to textbooks; I gather there was some politics behind pushing the project to limits its scope that way (before my time here), and some objections continuing, I believe, to this day. In this case, though, Wikivoyage exists and we wish it every success, so the scope question is largely a matter of alternative history.  We're happy to host such books, but there's no need for us to host them if Wikivoyage welcomes the material.  If some thing where not a good fit for Wikivoyage, it could certainly be hosted here and Wikivoyage could link back to its location here; but I see no such thing in this case.  --Pi zero (discuss • contribs) 12:52, 6 February 2014 (UTC)


 * Most of the material is indeed quite incomplete, for the book form, though it looks like there was some real effort into Hiking in the Canadian Rockies/Day Hikes/Kananaskis. --Pi zero (discuss • contribs) 12:52, 6 February 2014 (UTC)
 * You're right - I'd sort of earmarked that one for its own article, to make use of the effort that's been put into it. --Nicholasjf21 (discuss • contribs) 15:56, 6 February 2014 (UTC)
 * transwiki-ing seems right, as the center of enthusiasm for improving travel guides is at Wikivoyage now. I can also imagine collections of many guides from WikiVoyage someday becoming books ("travelling in europe" or similar) that could be downloaded, printed, added to Wikibooks, etc. -- Phoebe (discuss • contribs) 22:23, 7 February 2014 (UTC)


 * most of these, good idea. . I don't know about the Guide to Electrical Equipment.  Sj (discuss • contribs) 02:50, 15 February 2014 (UTC)

I think Wikivoyage aims to have articles about specific destinations that are of use to any traveler. With that in mind, I propose to close this as consensus to transfer to Wikivoyage, but keep "Hiking in the Canadian Rockies", "Teaching Assistant in France Survival Guide", and "Guide to Electrical Equipment for Travelers" because those books have more specific aims and audiences as can be seen from the book titles, like instructing hikers, teaching assistances, or anyone with electrical equipment. --dark lama  15:00, 6 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Yes, close please. --ЗAНИA [[Image:Flag_of_Estonia.svg|15px]]talk 20:12, 6 May 2014 (UTC)