Wikibooks:Requests for deletion/Guitar/Song Library

Guitar/Song Library
A chapter that is purely links to external sites. Also nested chapters. There are four chapters - one containing the three internal links and nothing else and the three chapters of external links.

There's the usual ultimateguitar.com links but also wikitabs.org. I want to know if this wikitabs site is part of Wikipedia et al.

The chapter is also full of links to tabs generated by: bettylou.zzruss.com

I don't know what to make of all this. This chapter seems to be an external link directory. This is meant to be a book about the guitar not a search engine or link directory. I've added a deletion request.

So it wikitabs.org part of Wikipedia et al?

Also why have they nested the chapters?. You click on Song Library and get presented with a whole chapter dedicated to displaying three links.

cheers

Forgot to sign it. This request was posted on the 17 August 2013. I'm signing it today. Sorry about that.

Sluffs (discuss • contribs) 16:44, 13 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Wikitabs isn't part of the "Wikimedia" family, no. Now you've deleted all the links, do you still feel the page should be deleted? QuiteUnusual (discuss • contribs) 21:46, 15 September 2013 (UTC)


 * Of interest: Talk:Guitar/Guitar Chords Song Library.  --Pi zero (discuss • contribs) 20:53, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

The book is progressing and these spam links really belong to the Wild West days of Wikimedia projects. I edit the Guitar book regularly and find that these legacy pages stand in the way. Here's my idea about what this book can be. Most books are started and then seem to get stuck. Its almost like the order of the material forces future editors to avoid tackling structure. I'm reworking material from other editors and adding my own with a view of creating a Wikibook that is comprehensive in its coverage and logical in its structure and presentation. I'm not admin so I have to request that pages and chapters be deleted. The Guitar Chords Song Library has to go - its spam. its boring, its overloaded with links, its nested pages that are separated from the main structure.

Probably the most important reason is its spam. External links to commercial sites and some amateur sites with basic lyric sheets with chords symbols above. If you want to go to the Delta Quadrant on Voyager with a bunch of guitarists who all use the same wrong chords and keys that's up to you. Personally it all smacks of Lister on the Red Dwarf if you ask me. Its spam.

Sluffs (discuss • contribs) 19:46, 21 October 2013 (UTC)

I think this has been sitting here for awhile, because whether this decision should be left up to book contributors and whether the pages are within project scope, may have been difficult to determine.

CC-BY-SA and public domain sheet music may be appropriate for inclusion in a book about learning to play a musical instrument. A book about learning to play a musical instrument may also link to reliable websites that include relevant sheet music. Books often have a bibliography with external links to relevant material on the topic collected in one place. One link to a website is often enough when the whole website is relevant for a book. What content to include and what websites to link to is best left to book contributors to decide through bold actions and the decision making process. If book contributors decide through consensus a page should be deleted, then that page can be speedy deleted.

Books must maintain a neutral point of view and must be instructive for inclusion at Wikibooks. A list of songs to learn by skill level must be based on reliable sources to maintain a NPOV and to verify factual accuracy. A list must have an instructional context, such as helping anyone with the musical instrument learn to play the songs through instruction and practice. These things can be addressed by book contributors, and are normally not a reason to delete.

No community consensus is possible based on the current level of feedback. However the feedback that has been provided should be used to improve the book, and these pages. --dark lama  17:40, 29 May 2014 (UTC)