Wikibooks:Requests for deletion/GlobalTwitcher.com

GlobalTwitcher.com
Scope. Sigma 7 (talk) 04:30, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
 * In the past have accepted that if indeed able to keep up with the NPOV requirement (this means able to cope with criticism) manuals, with educational purposes even about commercial products are fair game, in this case the special distinction is that the product is a WEB service. Besides needing a name change I don't see at the moment a special problem. --Panic (talk) 04:40, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Its being out of scope is arguable; however, it doesn't feel Wikibooks-ish. Kayau ( talk &#124; email &#124; contribs ) 07:33, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
 * I think it should be noted that after some time exploring the site I found they are using us to host their official documentation. That is, from their site if you click on "Users Guide" from the left tool bar your brought to wikibooks.  And the "Contact Us" section at the end of the page provides the companies email address.  As the book was written effectively by just one person I would be surprised to find that this was a user of the site and not someone working for the company. Thenub314 (talk) 09:24, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
 * We do have manuals, including the very popular Blender 3D: Noob to Pro and we do cover commercial software (hence the need for non-free use uploads). This wouldn't be the only commercial web service covered: see Subject:Web applications. – Adrignola talk 12:04, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
 * [[Image:Symbol delete vote.svg|15px]] Delete After looking at some of other books in Subject:Web applications and looking on the site a bit more I feel this book violates WB:HOST, as the site seems to be using us to provide a wiki for their own service. 13:34, 14 July 2010 (UTC) —The preceding comment was added by Thenub314 (talk • contribs).
 * Wait, I forgot the whole thing about OR. This also does not belong to WV because it's not educational. I'd say delete. Kayau ( talk &#124; email &#124; contribs ) 14:35, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Symbol delete vote.svg Delete WB:HOST. --Pi zero (talk) 15:37, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
 * It is a bit different from WB:HOST, we at Wikibooks are not only about educational content (that this manages to be) but also about free and reusable content. The use given to the content elsewhere shouldn't be of relevance to us if it complies to this two points. We can even say that if all comercial ventures released their manuals as a Wikibook and pointed to our project our situation regarding contributions, users and visibility would be dramatically changed. --Panic (talk) 17:10, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
 * If it isn't WB:HOST, then it's WB:OR; in fact, I think it exists in a sort of superposition of states between violating one or the other of those. It is apparently meant to be the primary documentation, which means that there is no external authority that can be consulted for verification, even in principle.  It seems to be, in essence, inherently a single-author work, with no potential for substantive wiki collaboration.  --Pi zero (talk) 17:39, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
 * I think I understand your point regarding "primary source" but that problem is not unique to this work, it all depends on how strict we are, consider for instance the MagicJack work (I had a discussion with the contributor about NPOV).
 * I think the creator is promoting wiki collaboration as the original product itself points users here. From my reading of the present What is Wikibooks? I don't see an objection (but understand that some effort is being put into establishing it more clearly, in the unstable branch and even in the Original research draft proposal), but in this case I think that it doesn't falls under research but direct description of something, I haven't examined it deeply but restricting the "primary source" in that way would also cover other works and even subjects in a similar way. --Panic (talk) 22:23, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Symbol keep vote.svg Keep Too soon. Lets see what content is made available but I would require a rename of the work. --Panic (talk) 17:11, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
 * for now. I think that something like this is a great idea, depending on its scope. Arlen22 (talk) 18:47, 14 July 2010 (UTC)


 * per WB:HOST. Diego Grez (talk) 00:06, 21 July 2010 (UTC)