Wikibooks:Requests for deletion/General Astronomy

General Astronomy
This is a tough one for me. This is a textbook in a more traditional sense, but most modules linked here are written as encyclopedia entries, and much better done and more up to date on Wikipedia. My proposal is to do a hard review of most pages on this Wikibook and delete content that is essentially a fork of existing Wikipedia content with only a inter-wiki link to Wikipedia instead of hosting the content here. Particularly on the section about the Solar System. I would love to see a comprehensive Wikibook about the Solar System, but this isn't written as a book in the traditional sense. If, on the other hand, this Wikibook was intended to be more of the material edited out of Wikipedia because the related Wikipedia article is going beyond the 32K limit, it may be useful. As it stands right now, this Wikibook is a macropedia and a fork. --Rob Horning 03:21, 19 November 2005 (UTC)


 * Comment  I suppose many reference-style books attempting a general survey of a subject are likely to resemble a sequence of encyclopædic articles linked together. A Wikibook as a thoughtfully-compiled collection of related articles from Wikipedia – not a bad idea...?  Best wishes, David Kernow 07:53, 19 November 2005 (UTC)


 * Keep for now   Can someone take this under his/her wing and make it into a more proper Wikibook?  I would suggest nominating the main page Astronomy for cleanup as a macropedia and nominating forked pages for cleanup as forks.  Perhaps also issue a  on the main page that if it isn't cleaned up it could face deletion. --JMRyan 12:41, 19 November 2005 (UTC)
 * I guess I'm trying to even see how this could be turned into a textbook in its present condition as opposed to a Macropedia. A book, as opposed to encyclopedia entries, has a chronological order to its content and builds for the most part from one section to another introducing new ideas along the way.  Astrophysics in general seems to encourage the macropedia approach in part because a general survey is to do case studies of specific objects and bodies...making very much an encyclopedia-type entry.  I'll have to put more into the talk page of this Wikibook regarding where I think it should go.  --Rob Horning 13:54, 19 November 2005 (UTC)


 * Keep. Current policy is to keep books that only need attention. This one might not currently be 100% a textbook, but it has the potential to become a textbook with a little TLC. Keep it, and put a cleanup notice on it. better yet, make it a CoM candidate, and see if we can't get some fresh blood working on it. --Whiteknight T C E 23:21, 21 November 2005 (UTC)
 * I did leave a note on the Astronomy Wikipedia Wikiproject to request that they "adopt" this Wikibook under their overall Wikiproject group, particularly as they are knowledgeable about this particular subject. I don't know how many people from Wikipedia will help out, but any help would be appreciated.  The deletion request is to delete individual modules that are forks, not to delete the whole Wikibook.  BTW, I did add the cleanup tag as well.  --Rob Horning 14:50, 23 November 2005 (UTC)


 * Clear permanent keep. The authors should *vaguely* know how it will differ from wikipedia, but they are not obligated to justify it to us, as this is a clear textbook topic and it does not voilate any other rules.  - Nyarlathotep 12:04, 26 November 2005 (UTC)

Current Concensus is to Keep, although some users have mentioned that this page could use a little TLC. I will put a cleanup notice on the page, until the problems have been sorted out. This discussion will be archived in 1 week. -- 15:02, 2 December 2005 (UTC)