Wikibooks:Requests for deletion/Albania and Greece

Albania and Greece
I've been bored lately, and decided to open the manhole on the orphaned module supply that is seemingly inexaustable for trouble. This particular module was previously on Wikipedia where there is now a redirect to Wikibooks but otherwise no link here at Wikibooks from a mis-worked transwiki. I found out it was a transwiki due to a Google search on a suspected copyright violation, not because of any comments about the article.

The Wikipedia VfD can be found here and IMHO this clearly also violates WB:WIN in several ways. I also suspect it is a copyright violation, but because of the fact this was earlier a Wikipedia article, Google shows a bunch of hits from Wikipedia mirrors and I am having a hard time trying to find where the text of this module originally came from. Any hints for some suggestions as to if this is a copyright violation would be appreciated. I think it needs to simply be deleted, but I'm leaving this open to a community concensus. --Rob Horning 00:11, 24 January 2006 (UTC)


 * Delete - A very personal account. Doesn't seem to really fit here, especially due to the point of view in which it's written. Someone's copy and paste that probably exists deep on a news site somewhere. -Matt 05:51, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Comment If it was published before 1923, then it is likely to be public domain in the United States, and one might be able to transwiki it to Wikisource. --Kernigh 07:18, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Based on context within the document, although I can't directly find a date, I would guess that this was written shortly after World War I or just after 1920. That is pushing the copyright boundary, but it is likely to be legal to keep, at least on Wikisource.  A transwiki seems to me to be a fairly good idea, but I don't want to give grief to Wikisource to have to go through a thrid VfD to finally kill this once and for all.  --Rob Horning 13:48, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete. We are truely the dumping grounds for Wikibooks trash, aren't we.  I don't see that even Wikisource would want this (nearly?) 100 year old class lecture.  I don't see either current relevance, literary interest, or historical interest.  --JMRyan 01:22, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep! This is a wonderful, if boring and pedantic, article that captures the tone of the dialogues that occurred in the early part of the twentieth century concerning nation formation from the remains of the Ottoman Empire!  Perhaps some here are not interested in this work, but others are! It isn't often that we find a (nearly?) 100 year old class lecture that illustrates so nicely the intellectual tone of its era. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.109.155.250 (talk • contribs).
 * Exactly, it's an "artical", and not a book. wikibooks is not a dumping a ground for rubbish that doesn't fit on other projects. If we can't transwiki this one to wikipedia, then it should be deleted. --Whiteknight (talk) (current) 03:30, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
 * That it is a 100 year old lecture should also make it something for Wikisource, not Wikibooks. Wikisource preserves historical documents, Wikibooks creates new book-length documents, and Wikipedia deals with most of the shorter treatments of a general topical nature.  BTW, I want to thank that anonymous contributor for providing a link to the article's author, which documents that the article is indeed in the public domain due to the life+75 year clause and that it was likely to have been published prior to 1920.--Rob Horning 12:13, 26 January 2006 (UTC)


 * Transwikied to Wikisource and deleted. Thanks for the help in trying to find a home for this document.  This discussion can be archived in 1 week or so.--Rob Horning 13:58, 26 January 2006 (UTC)