Wikibooks:Reading room/Proposals/2019/June

Bots
Hi. I was looking at Bots and couldn't find where to request that a bot be approved. I have recently been going through the many pages that have pending revisions, and see that on some (lots) of them the total changes to be reviewed result in no difference (the last edit reversed the impact of all previous edits, via undo or otherwise). In such cases, reviewers are only presented with the option to "accept [the new] revision". Thus, I propose that a bot automatically accept all pending revisions that result in no changes, assessing at the same quality as the last assessed revision. Thanks, --DannyS712 (discuss • contribs) 02:12, 6 June 2019 (UTC)
 * pinging the only bureaucrat, who is the only person who would be able to add a bot flag (required for higher speeds and api limits). I am an experienced bot operator - see w:en:User:DannyS712/bot. Thanks, --DannyS712 (discuss • contribs) 02:20, 6 June 2019 (UTC)
 * I don't think I'd trust that those cases can be safely sighted by a bot. When there are no changes, afaik it's because the page uses some other page &mdash;a template, or an image&mdash; that has not been sighted; and it's then desirable for some human to examine the situation, to work out how it ought to be handled on a case-by-case basis. --Pi zero (discuss • contribs) 02:45, 6 June 2019 (UTC)
 * I understand your concern, but that fortunately isn't the case. Looking through 10 minutes of my patrol logs, I manually patrolled each of the following revisions:
 * https://en.wikibooks.org/w/index.php?title=Management_Concepts_and_Applications/Planning&oldid=3137491&diff=3293181
 * https://en.wikibooks.org/w/index.php?title=Scouting/BSA/Salesmanship_Merit_Badge&oldid=3122920&diff=3371190
 * https://en.wikibooks.org/w/index.php?title=Adventist_Youth_Honors_Answer_Book/Arts_and_Crafts/Crocheting&oldid=3250632&diff=3313889
 * https://en.wikibooks.org/w/index.php?title=Elements_of_Art/Two_and_Three_Dimensions&oldid=3254134&diff=3494183
 * which had no changes because they were reverted. Changes to templates are tracked separately from changes to mainspace pages, and are reviewed separately; likewise with images. --DannyS712 (discuss • contribs) 03:19, 6 June 2019 (UTC)


 * Well, if such a bot is done with care for the case I mentioned, I have no specific objection. It's a known fact I dislike bots &mdash; not just that I dislike running them myself, but that I dislike having automation editing a wiki without human supervision (whereas I'm quite sanguine about semi-automated assistance); but bots can save labor when used carefully, and some people do like them, and the semi-automation I envision is taking a long time to develop. --Pi zero (discuss • contribs) 05:10, 6 June 2019 (UTC)
 * for example, here is a revision that the bot would patrol that is still pending, if you would like to take a look: . It would assess as "spot checked" and "minimal". Thanks, --DannyS712 (discuss • contribs) 06:10, 6 June 2019 (UTC)
 * I certainly like the principle and wouldn't object to this being tested. QuiteUnusual (discuss • contribs) 08:01, 6 June 2019 (UTC)
 * I would not object either. Leaderboard (discuss • contribs) 08:29, 6 June 2019 (UTC)
 * JackPotte (discuss • contribs) 13:56, 6 June 2019 (UTC)
 * In that case, can User:DannyS712 bot please be flagged as a reviewer? At User:DannyS712_test/patrol.json I list pages that would be patrolled, and the levels that they would be patrolled at. Thanks, --DannyS712 (discuss • contribs) 03:59, 8 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Wouldn't autoreview also do in this case? Leaderboard (discuss • contribs) 08:28, 8 June 2019 (UTC)
 * , no, because that would 1) require the bot to make edits, and 2) only be marked as patrolled if all previous edits were already patrolled, which isn't the case here. --DannyS712 (discuss • contribs) 21:15, 8 June 2019 (UTC)
 * ✅ for one month, simply request again after that time. Leaderboard (discuss • contribs) 08:37, 9 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I did a first run through - take a look at . --DannyS712 (discuss • contribs) 02:24, 10 June 2019 (UTC)