Wikibooks:Reading room/Proposals/2010/September

Solution against the broken external links: back up the Internet
For two years, http://wikiwix.com allows the French Wikipedia to read the external sites, which URL are in its article, even if they're stopped, thanks to a link [Archive] after each URL. Today they're proposing to extend their backups to us, and it's working on the French Wiktionary. Could we please get a consensus to install it here? JackPotte (talk) 21:29, 31 August 2010 (UTC)


 * I've taken a look and it seems extremely useful. My understanding is that it is facultative (the archive link is added by hand) Am I correct ? (sometimes I have used the Internet archive link directly) --Panic (talk) 21:55, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
 * There are two ways to use it. You can add a link manually, just like you do with Internet Archive. You can also add a script to MediaWiki:Common.js that adds a link next to the archived version of every links on the Website. The second method saves a huge lot of time. Regards, Dodoïste (talk) 00:06, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
 * For example, after every link in fr:Parc national Olympique there is an [archive] link. These links are all added with JavaScript.
 * Every link on the french Wikipedia is archived in the Wikiwix archive. By default, we chose to display the archive only in the references section because that's where we need them. It was also done to improve performance. The rest of the links can be displayed using a gadget. Dodoïste (talk) 16:23, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

Conflicts of interest
As of right now we do not have a username policy or a conflict of interest guideline. George Foreman Grills Cookbook was recently created by User:George Foreman UK. Wikipedia has had problems with paid editors inserting promotional material. Assuming that the book is developed in line with the rest of site policies, would this situation be a problem? If so, how would we address it short of an RFD later? – Adrignola talk 13:04, 16 September 2010 (UTC)


 * I think Wikibooks is not for advertising and self promotion could mean the material is outside our scope too, but not just because the editor is being paid to edit. Also the recipes might be copyrighted and I'd wonder if the editor is in a position to give permission to allow those recipes to be used under CC-BY-SA terms. If they are serious about this, I think the first step should be to use OTRS to get confirmation that permission is allowed, than we can discuss how this really ought to be in the Cookbook namespace and how to ensure the work isn't promotion later. --dark lama  13:49, 16 September 2010 (UTC)