Wikibooks:Reading room/Archives/2024/February

Red links won’t turn blue
I am just finishing the wikibook Pokémon Red and Blue. I had three redlinks to fill out (Victory Road, the Elite Four, and the Unknown Dungeon). I clicked on the first redlink and started writing the page. I saved the page. However, if I were to go back to the main page for the wikibook, the link to the now currently existing page stays red. If I am to click it, it takes me to that article in edit mode. Clearing my cookies turned the link blue, but that action is very annoying because it logs me out each time. Any assistance would be appreciated, although the red links might all be gone by that time. Thanks! SupremeUmanu (discuss • contribs) 18:45, 11 February 2024 (UTC)


 * Pokémon Red and Blue/Victory Road exists. Not sure why the other two pages haven't saved. You may need to open/close your browser or restart your computer? Possibly this is a caching issue or a loss of session data? —Justin ( koavf ) ❤T☮C☺M☯ 19:38, 11 February 2024 (UTC)
 * The problem has just gone away by itself. Thank you nevertheless! SupremeUmanu (discuss • contribs) 20:01, 11 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Then it may have been a caching issue on the server end or something. That is very rare. And forgive me if I seem pedantic, but you know that Pokémon Red and Blue/Saffron City and Pokémon Red and Blue/Gameplay are red, correct? —Justin ( koavf ) ❤T☮C☺M☯ 20:53, 11 February 2024 (UTC)

Announcing the results of the UCoC Coordinating Committee Charter ratification vote

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Dear all,

Thank you everyone for following the progress of the Universal Code of Conduct. I am writing to you today to announce the outcome of the ratification vote on the Universal Code of Conduct Coordinating Committee Charter. 1746 contributors voted in this ratification vote with 1249 voters supporting the Charter and 420 voters not. The ratification vote process allowed for voters to provide comments about the Charter.

A report of voting statistics and a summary of voter comments will be published on Meta-wiki in the coming weeks.

Please look forward to hearing about the next steps soon.

On behalf of the UCoC Project team,

RamzyM (WMF) 18:23, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

Assistants?
Hello! I've just stumbled upon Wikibooks assistants while cleaning up project pages, and I'm a little confused about what exactly they do. It seems like there is only one assistant (breadboard)—I've read the documentation, but I'm still unclear what its function is. I believe Pi zero created it years ago, and unfortunately I can't ask them due to their passing. @MarcGarver @Leaderboard @JackPotte I think you may have been around for the creation of this—do you have more knowledge about assistants/breadboard and how they work? —Kittycataclysm (discuss • contribs) 14:25, 17 February 2024 (UTC)


 * The problem is that Pi zero has unfortunately not given any examples for the breadboard. My understanding is that these are assistant tools - i.e, they are designed to help users in a complex task - in the breadboard case, with Help:Dialog (which itself is a tool enabling things such as buttons, text etc). Unfortunately, dialogs appear to be a Pi-zero thing; wikipedia:Help:Dialog doesn't exist. As a result, unless someone (or myself) can sit down and spend time understanding how their internals work, I'm not sure what we can do. Leaderboard (discuss • contribs) 06:39, 18 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Hello, I didn't know these pages until now. As the Breadboard's code refers to a missing page, and it always displays "preview" when testing, it seems to be an ununsed malfunctioning stub. JackPotte (discuss • contribs) 09:50, 18 February 2024 (UTC)
 * I hope you don't mind me butting in here, @Kittycataclysm. I noticed you referred to Pi zero as a "they" and just wanted to tell you that w:Wikipedia:Deceased Wikipedians/2021 was a he. He had a tendency to build very sophisticated systems that many of those who worked with him didn't understand, but from what I understand he was brilliant, as well as a very decent human being. If you cannot figure out the current mystery you may want to ask someone at Wikinews. Ottawahitech (discuss • contribs) 00:50, 19 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Got it, thank you for letting me know! —Kittycataclysm (discuss • contribs) 01:59, 19 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Using gender-neutral pronouns isn't problematic and they never explicitly mentioned their favoured pronouns; nothing wrong on Kittycataclysm's part, FWIW. --SHB2000 (discuss • contribs) 08:18, 21 February 2024 (UTC)
 * I agree. Much better to use gender-neutral rather than the wrong one, @SHB2000. I am often just as guilty as others  calling a participant he/him when there is no basis for doing this. Ottawahitech (discuss • contribs) 19:41, 24 February 2024 (UTC)
 * I believe the intent is to let the editor test out how different parameters will impact the way a page is displayed without actually having to edit the page. So you put text on the breadboard, add the parameters and click "update view" to see how it looks, then change the parameters and try again... MarcGarver (discuss • contribs) 16:09, 20 February 2024 (UTC)

Following up (thanks for your responses, all)—I see what the breadboard is supposed to do, although as JackPotte says, it is broken. Given this, should it be deleted? I don't imagine anyone plans to fix it —Kittycataclysm (discuss • contribs) 19:23, 20 February 2024 (UTC)


 * wouldn't delete it just as we wouldn't delete an outdated book - maybe provide a note or a template saying that it's old and broken? Leaderboard (discuss • contribs) 07:09, 21 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Got it, thank you—I'll do that. —Kittycataclysm (discuss • contribs) 19:23, 22 February 2024 (UTC)

Project-wide banners
Hello! I feel like it would be good to advertise important community discussions/developments (e.g. policy development) in order to get as much feedback as possible. Is there any way to generate a banner viewable to all Wikibooks users? I know one was created to advertise when we changed the policy to allow strategy guides, but I'm not sure how to do this. Thanks! —Kittycataclysm (discuss • contribs) 19:28, 22 February 2024 (UTC)


 * MediaWiki:Sitenotice —Justin ( koavf ) ❤T☮C☺M☯ 19:53, 22 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Thank you!! —Kittycataclysm (discuss • contribs) 22:56, 22 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Any time. Thanks for all you do, KC. Sorry that my answers are sometimes so clipped--just a busy guy, but happy to help and happy that you solicited feedback on the AI policy. Looking forward to it being finalized. —Justin ( koavf ) ❤T☮C☺M☯ 23:09, 22 February 2024 (UTC)
 * @ For reasons that I have not figured out yet I often do not get to see site notices, so I assume there are others like me on this wiki. Where would such notices be posted? Ottawahitech (discuss • contribs) 19:47, 24 February 2024 (UTC)
 * It seems you wanted to ping someone but didn't. The site notice should appear at the time of every page until or unless you 1.) dismiss it or 2.) use custom CSS to hide it. I have no clue why it wouldn't display other than those two reasons. —Justin ( koavf ) ❤T☮C☺M☯ 20:19, 24 February 2024 (UTC)

Nazi Leaders?
any help would be much appreciated thank you! BigKrow (discuss • contribs) 03:58, 3 February 2024 (UTC)

Last days to vote on the Charter for the Universal Code of Conduct Coordinating Committee

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Hello all,

I am reaching out to you today to remind you that the voting period for the Universal Code of Conduct Coordinating Committee (U4C) charter will close on 2 February 2024. Community members may cast their vote and provide comments about the charter via SecurePoll. Those of you who voiced your opinions during the development of the UCoC Enforcement Guidelines will find this process familiar.

The current version of the U4C charter is on Meta-wiki with translations available.

Read the charter, go vote and share this note with others in your community. I can confidently say the U4C Building Committee looks forward to your participation.

On behalf of the UCoC Project team,

RamzyM (WMF) 16:59, 31 January 2024 (UTC)


 * @RamzyM (WMF): Just wondering if this is only an announcement or whether I can ask you questions Ottawahitech (discuss • contribs) 21:18, 27 February 2024 (UTC)