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Opportunities open for the Affiliations Committee, Ombuds commission, and the Case Review Committee
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Hi everyone! The Affiliations Committee (AffCom), Ombuds commission (OC), and the Case Review Committee (CRC) are looking for new members. These volunteer groups provide important structural and oversight support for the community and movement. People are encouraged to nominate themselves or encourage others they feel would contribute to these groups to apply. There is more information about the roles of the groups, the skills needed, and the opportunity to apply on the Meta-wiki page.

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Does Wikibooks have a functional magic word? @MarcGarver @Leaderboard? —Kittycataclysm (discuss • contribs) 00:31, 22 October 2023 (UTC)


 * DEFAULTSORT is just a part of the software: it works on every page on this wiki that has the wiki content model. —Justin ( koavf ) ❤T☮C☺M☯ 03:35, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
 * @Koavf @SHB2000 Huh okay! That's what I thought, but it doesn't seem to be working on Cookbook:1-2 Chocolate Cake where I tested it. I'm wondering what I'm doing wrong. —Kittycataclysm (discuss • contribs) 21:33, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Cookbook:1-2 Chocolate Cake is sorted under "Chococlate" in Category:Halal recipes. —Justin ( koavf ) ❤T☮C☺M☯ 21:41, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
 * @Koavf Interesting, it seems to be sorting correctly in some categories only. For example, it's not sorting correctly in Category:Recipes. Do you know why that might be? —Kittycataclysm (discuss • contribs) 21:45, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Oh! Could it be related to the fact that the recipe getting put in Category:Recipes by at the top of the page? I remember something about defaultsort being very picky about page placement. —Kittycataclysm (discuss • contribs) 21:48, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
 * The problem is that recipe includes the template Cookbook article type which has the code {{DEFAULTSORT:{{{sortby|{{PAGENAME}}}}}}, which it almost certainly shouldn't. —Justin ( koavf ) ❤T☮C☺M☯ 21:57, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
 * So, I tried two different troubleshooting things. Completely removing the defaultsort code in didn't help, but I tried manually adding  in Cookbook:1-2 Chocolate Cake underneath the defaultsort, and that DOES fix it. So, I guess if I want a page to sort in any special way, I'll have to manually add the relevant categories, since  doesn't work for transcluded categories. —Kittycataclysm (discuss • contribs) 23:09, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Aw nuts I can just specify the sortkey for the recipe category as a parameter in . This has been a whole lot of troubleshooting just for a little old thing. —Kittycataclysm (discuss • contribs) 23:18, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Removing the code should work. Sometimes, it takes purging the page and template. —Justin ( koavf ) ❤T☮C☺M☯ 23:24, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
 * As Justin points out. Leaderboard (discuss • contribs) 06:11, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
 * To add onto what Justin mentioned, is used when you want a page to be sorted out by something that isn't its title – so for a page named "The Gambia", per se, you would use  to sort it by default under "G". --SHB2000 (discuss • contribs) 08:20, 22 October 2023 (UTC)

Trouble with imports
Is there an issue with the import tool? It's throwing things into transwiki even when I don't want it to. @MarcGarver@Leaderboard do you know anything about this? —Kittycataclysm (discuss • contribs) 00:28, 22 October 2023 (UTC)


 * @Leaderboard I think you might have dealt with this before? But I just imported a single page, and it put it in transwiki even though I specified not to. I'm not sure who to go to for help with this. —Kittycataclysm (discuss • contribs) 01:21, 23 October 2023 (UTC)
 * , I remember this - how are you importing? Leaderboard (discuss • contribs) 05:28, 23 October 2023 (UTC)
 * @Leaderboard I use Special:Import and specified "import to original namespace". —Kittycataclysm (discuss • contribs) 14:52, 23 October 2023 (UTC)
 * , that seems to have a bug for some reason. One way to work around it is to set the namespace manually - then all imported pages will go there. Leaderboard (discuss • contribs) 16:33, 23 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Okay good to know! Who would be the wiki authority to reach out to for assistance with fixing this? —Kittycataclysm (discuss • contribs) 17:57, 23 October 2023 (UTC)
 * If it genuinely is a software but, then . Have you ever made a ticket there before? —Justin ( koavf ) ❤T☮C☺M☯ 18:03, 23 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks @Koavf! Just created a ticket. —Kittycataclysm (discuss • contribs) 20:46, 23 October 2023 (UTC)
 * T349560 for those playing at home. —Justin ( koavf ) ❤T☮C☺M☯ 21:23, 23 October 2023 (UTC)

Review and comment on the 2024 Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees selection rules package

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Dear all,

Please review and comment on the Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees selection rules package from now until 29 October 2023. The selection rules package was based on older versions by the Elections Committee and will be used in the 2024 Board of Trustees selection. Providing your comments now will help them provide a smoother, better Board selection process. More on the Meta-wiki page.

Best,

Katie Chan Chair of the Elections Committee 

01:12, 17 October 2023 (UTC)