Wikibooks:Reading room/Archives/2023/April

Formatting cookbook template
Hello! A variety of Wikibooks templates such as have been re-imported/updated, and I think this has affected the formatting of. I'm pretty sure the box's header used to do a line break if the text got too long, but it now seems to just expand the width of the whole box. I can't figure out how to force it to do a line break instead, and any help would be appreciated. Thank you! —Kittycataclysm (discuss • contribs) 18:28, 3 April 2023 (UTC)

Improving citation tool?
I've noticed that the citation tool available when editing pages on en.wikipedia is much more advanced than the one here—it has an automatic citation option and helps walk editors through the citation process. Is there any way for us to implement/import that same tool here? I'm not as well versed in the technical side of wikis. Pinging @MarcGarver and @Leaderboard since you've been around longer and I think you have more technical expertise. Thanks! —Kittycataclysm (discuss • contribs) 14:13, 1 April 2023 (UTC)


 * , can you link me to what you have in mind on Wikipedia? Leaderboard (discuss • contribs) 14:43, 1 April 2023 (UTC)
 * @Leaderboard After some poking around it looks like I'm talking about Citoid, which comes with a guide. There is also w:Wikipedia:RefToolbar, which I don't think we have here either. I personally use the visual editor a lot, and I think Citoid would be super helpful! —Kittycataclysm (discuss • contribs) 14:57, 1 April 2023 (UTC)
 * , I've enabled Citoid on this wiki. If you're using VisualEditor, there is no need to install RefToolbar, though let me know if you want that installed as well. Leaderboard (discuss • contribs) 15:37, 1 April 2023 (UTC)
 * @Leaderboard Thank you so much, this is super helpful!! I checked it out, and it doesn't look like the automatic function is working—is this because the Zotero translation server is not installed? I wasn't able to figure out how to get that working based on the documentation pages. —Kittycataclysm (discuss • contribs) 16:51, 1 April 2023 (UTC)
 * , does it work now? I've done a bunch of importing; similarly let me know if something is broken. Leaderboard (discuss • contribs) 18:09, 1 April 2023 (UTC)
 * @Leaderboard Hmmmm it doesn't look like the automatic function works yet. Was the translation server installed? I think that's the part that automatically converts URL/ISBN/DOI to information parsable by the templates? —Kittycataclysm (discuss • contribs) 18:28, 1 April 2023 (UTC)
 * ✅ (or at least I hope so - please let me know if something doesn't work as expected).
 * It is not a question of "the translation server installed" - Citoid uses Zotero and hence it was obvious that it was not a Zotero thing. Instead, Citoid depends on a variety of different Wikipedia templates and Lua scripts. While we have some of the templates, most were imported in 2010, which were clearly too old for Citoid to make use of. As a result I spent a few hours importing the necessary templates and scripts from Wikipedia - which is more painful that it sounds due to the intricates of importing. As a result many of the template documentation reference things on Wikipedia - while ugly, there isn't a reasonable way around it without manual cleanup. This is also why RC (recent changes) were flooded - even though I used the flood flag, there is a bug in that it does not take effect when using most of the MediaWiki API. That being said, for your purposes, it should work as expected. Leaderboard (discuss • contribs) 12:53, 2 April 2023 (UTC)
 * @Leaderboard Thank you SO much for both the help and the explanation—I'd like to become more familiar with the technical aspects of wikis going forward. It looks like the tool is working now, and I really appreciate all the time you put into this—I'll definitely be making use of it! Cheers! —Kittycataclysm (discuss • contribs) 13:05, 2 April 2023 (UTC)
 * @Leaderboard I noticed that several errors are being thrown in the references section at the bottom of Intellectual Property and the Internet/Electronic commerce ("Lua error in package.lua at line 80: module 'Module:Citation/CS1/Whitelist' not found."). Do you know how to fix this? Thanks! —Kittycataclysm (discuss • contribs) 14:44, 15 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Purging the page was enough for nearly all the errors to disappear; the one error that remained was handled by importing a module. There is still a warning about a parameter not being compatible; I think that will need to be manually adjusted. Leaderboard (discuss • contribs) 17:07, 15 April 2023 (UTC)

Graph extension disabled
Yesterday the Wikimedia Foundation noted that in the interests of the security of our users, the Graph extension was disabled. This means that pages that were formerly displaying graphs will now display a small blank area. To help readers understand this situation, communities can now define a brief message that can be displayed to readers in place of each graph until this is resolved. That message can be defined on each wiki at MediaWiki:Graph-disabled. Wikimedia Foundation staff are looking at options available and expected timelines. For updates, follow the public Phabricator task for this issue: T334940

--MediaWiki message delivery (discuss • contribs) 17:36, 19 April 2023 (UTC)

Merging history to multiple pages
Hello! When I split cookbook recipes into multiple pages, I'd like to ensure the page histories migrate along with them; however, the merge page history tool only seems to be able to transfer a page's history to a single other page. Is there any way to merge one page's history into multiple new pages? @SHB2000 @MarcGarver do you know? —Kittycataclysm (discuss • contribs) 21:58, 23 April 2023 (UTC)


 * I've tried this on my home wiki before, but my attempts gave me nothing more than misery. SHB2000 (discuss • contribs) 22:41, 23 April 2023 (UTC)
 * I don't believe it is possible. There are various guides to complex scenarios on Wikipedia and for this one (splitting), it simply says to put this in the edit summary "Contents WP:SPLIT from Source article name; please see its history for attribution". This strongly implies it isn't technically possible. MarcGarver (discuss • contribs) 07:46, 24 April 2023 (UTC)
 * @MarcGarver Got it, thanks for letting me know! —Kittycataclysm (discuss • contribs) 22:38, 24 April 2023 (UTC)

Seeking volunteers for the next step in the Universal Code of Conduct process

 *  m:Special:MyLanguage/Universal Code of Conduct/U4C Building Committee/Nominations/Announcement • 

Hello,

As follow-up to the message about the Universal Code of Conduct Enforcement Guidelines by Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees Vice Chair, Shani Evenstein Sigalov, I am reaching out about the next steps. I want to bring your attention to the next stage of the Universal Code of Conduct process, which is forming a building committee for the Universal Code of Conduct Coordinating Committee (U4C). I invite community members with experience and deep interest in community health and governance to nominate themselves to be part of the U4C building committee, which needs people who are:


 * Community members in good standing
 * Knowledgeable about movement community processes, such as, but not limited to, policy drafting, participatory decision making, and application of existing rules and policies on Wikimedia projects
 * Aware and appreciative of the diversity of the movement, such as, but not limited to, languages spoken, identity, geography, and project type
 * Committed to participate for the entire U4C Building Committee period from mid-May - December 2023
 * Comfortable with engaging in difficult, but productive conversations
 * Confidently able to communicate in English

The Building Committee shall consist of volunteer community members, affiliate board or staff, and Wikimedia Foundation staff.

The Universal Code of Conduct has been a process strengthened by the skills and knowledge of the community and I look forward to what the U4C Building Committee creates. If you are interested in joining the Building Committee, please either sign up on the Meta-Wiki page, or contact ucocprojectwikimedia.org by May 12, 2023. Read more on Meta-Wiki.

Best regards, 

Xeno (WMF) 19:00, 26 April 2023 (UTC)

Helper a math author for the book
Hello, I want to select several users to hire math authors for my book, please help. Mohammad.Hosein.J.Shia (discuss • contribs) 18:40, 19 April 2023 (UTC)


 * Are you trying to write a book here on Wikibooks or somewhere else? —Justin ( koavf ) ❤T☮C☺M☯ 00:33, 20 April 2023 (UTC)


 * No, I want to hire a writer for a supplementary mathematics book. Mohammad.Hosein.J.Shia (discuss • contribs) 08:33, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Hire? As in pay to write a book here? That's not allowed. Hired to work for you outside of Wikibooks? No, we can't help and you cannot solicit here. MarcGarver (discuss • contribs) 11:04, 20 April 2023 (UTC)


 * No I mean someone help me here and contribute. Mohammad.Hosein.J.Shia (discuss • contribs) 14:01, 21 April 2023 (UTC)


 * @Mohammad.Hosein.J.Shia Do you mean you want to hire (i.e. pay) people to develop this book with you? Or, do you mean you want to recruit other editors to help you work on the project? There is an important difference between the two—as @MarcGarver said, the first is not allowed. —Kittycataclysm (discuss • contribs) 17:42, 21 April 2023 (UTC)


 * The second comment you gave -Mohammad.Hosein.J.Shia (discuss • contribs) 02:49, 22 April 2023 (UTC)


 * I suggest that new policy / guidelines are needed to add into Wikibooks policy Policies and guidelines


 * (1) No solicitation of paid work: All contributions (in any forms such as creating new page, edit pages) made to the Wikibooks must be done in voluntarism spirit and without any expectation of financial compensation.


 * (2) No self - promotions or advertisements: The Wikibooks should be a platform for sharing information, not a place to promote personal websites, businesses products, services, or individuals. This means that any promotional content, including links or mentions of products or services, should be avoided and banned if found. Any information shared in Wikibooks should be objective and focused on providing helpful, relevant content to the community.


 * (3) Transparency: If a contributor is found to be soliciting paid work or engaging in any other form of self-promotion, they should be transparent about their intentions and immediately remove any inappropriate content.


 * (4) Bias : The Wikibooks should be driven by the community, with contributions coming from a wide range of individuals with diverse backgrounds and perspectives. This helps to ensure that the content remains unbiased and relevant to the community as a whole.
 * Proposal policy drafter : Encik Tekateki (discuss • contribs) 09:35, 22 April 2023 (UTC)