Wikibooks:Reading room/Archives/2022/July

syntaxhighlight lang="console" or lang="shell-session"
The &lt;syntaxhighlight&gt; markup seems to be the right choice when showing an interactive shell session with full input and output. See Public Key Authentication for some examples. However there are a lot of different language choices for the &lt;syntaxhighlight&gt; markup. Which would be more appropriate for showing an input command line and its output, would it be &lt;syntaxhighlight lang="shell-session"&gt; or &lt;syntaxhighlight lang="console"&gt; instead? -- Larsnooden (discuss • contribs) 08:29, 23 June 2022 (UTC)


 * I'm going to go with just shell-session for the actual interactive shell sessions since those really are different IMHO from the console. However, that decided, is there a generic designator for configuration files?  There are several configuration languages listed there, but they are specific to particular program.  What should be used generically?  -- Larsnooden (discuss • contribs) 03:41, 7 July 2022 (UTC)

Wikipedia has a article on ...
Hi, Is there a template which produces a box stating "Wikipedia has an article on ... ." or similar? Analogous the the familiar reference &#123;{Commons category|...}}. A Help search didn't help. =8~) Thx, ... PeterEasthope (discuss • contribs) 19:05, 26 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Yes, and it's easy to remember: L10nM4st3r / Roar at me 16:25, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks! I have above average talent for forgetting details, ... PeterEasthope (discuss • contribs) 18:25, 27 July 2022 (UTC)

Automatically adding a category from a template
Hi, I would like to add a category automatically when placing a template within a Wikibook.

Specifically, when adding the template Template:Beeton to a Cookbook page, I would like the category Category:Public domain recipes to be added within the template itself so Wikibook Cookbook recipes that use that template are automatically included within the category. I have noticed that the template Template:Fruit does a similar thing to what I want to do, but I do not understand the markup up it has used to adapt it. Jamzze (discuss • contribs) 15:48, 19 July 2022 (UTC)
 * try using

L10nM4st3r / Roar at me 16:14, 19 July 2022 (UTC)

The Sims game strategy book
Hi ya, no sure if this is the correct place for help with creating strategy books, please do direct me elsewhere if not, but I was wondering if anyone could help me finish off creating the initial shelf for The Sims? There are a number of parts to it and I can't seem to find detailed help on how to correctly link all the categories, etc. to one another.

Any help would be appreciated. Jamzze (discuss • contribs) 10:32, 30 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Hi again! The sims shelf would be part of Category:Shelf:Strategy guides, and all the books on The Sims would be part of the Sims shelf, as I understand it. But I'm not that experienced at shelves. And you should only add a shelf if three books could go into it, I think. L10nM4st3r / Roar at me 11:47, 30 July 2022 (UTC)
 * I went ahead and fixed it!
 * The tricky thing with shelves is a dependence on an older different system called subjects (Which I think most other editions of Wikibooks still use?). I messed up my first shelf/subject creation too. :)
 * Wikibooks Stacks/History explains the history of the system more in depth.
 * User:L10nM4st3r is generally right that shelves ought to be able to house a few books. I think in due time, this will happen with The Sims so I'm totally fine with it, though others may not be. Mbrickn (discuss • contribs) 01:05, 31 July 2022 (UTC)

 Propose statements for the 2022 Election Compass



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Hi all,

Community members in the 2022 Board of Trustees election are invited to propose statements to use in the Election Compass.

An Election Compass is a tool to help voters select the candidates that best align with their beliefs and views. The community members will propose statements for the candidates to answer using a Lickert scale (agree/neutral/disagree). The candidates’ answers to the statements will be loaded into the Election Compass tool. Voters will use the tool by entering in their answer to the statements (agree/disagree/neutral). The results will show the candidates that best align with the voter’s beliefs and views.

Here is the timeline for the Election Compass:

July 8 - 20: Community members propose statements for the Election Compass

July 21 - 22: Elections Committee reviews statements for clarity and removes off-topic statements

July 23 - August 1: Volunteers vote on the statements

August 2 - 4: Elections Committee selects the top 15 statements

August 5 - 12: candidates align themselves with the statements

August 15: The Election Compass opens for voters to use to help guide their voting decision

The Elections Committee will select the top 15 statements at the beginning of August. The Elections Committee will oversee the process, supported by the Movement Strategy and Governance team. MSG will check that the questions are clear, there are no duplicates, no typos, and so on.

Best,

Movement Strategy and Governance

This message was sent on behalf of the Board Selection Task Force and the Elections Committee

Mervat (WMF) (discuss • contribs) 09:47, 10 July 2022 (UTC)



Movement Strategy and Governance News – Issue 7
 Movement Strategy and Governance News

Issue 7, July-September 2022 Read the full newsletter Welcome to the 7th issue of Movement Strategy and Governance News! The newsletter distributes relevant news and events about the implementation of Wikimedia's Movement Strategy recommendations, other relevant topics regarding Movement governance, as well as different projects and activities supported by the Movement Strategy and Governance (MSG) team of the Wikimedia Foundation.

The MSG Newsletter is delivered quarterly, while the more frequent Movement Strategy Weekly will be delivered weekly. Please remember to subscribe here if you would like to receive future issues of this newsletter.  Mervat (WMF) 12:58, 15 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Movement sustainability: Wikimedia Foundation's annual sustainability report has been published. (continue reading)
 * Improving user experience: recent improvements on the desktop interface for Wikimedia projects. (continue reading)
 * Safety and inclusion: updates on the revision process of the Universal Code of Conduct Enforcement Guidelines. (continue reading)
 * Equity in decisionmaking: reports from Hubs pilots conversations, recent progress from the Movement Charter Drafting Committee, and a new white paper for futures of participation in the Wikimedia movement. (continue reading)
 * Stakeholders coordination: launch of a helpdesk for Affiliates and volunteer communities working on content partnership. (continue reading)
 * Leadership development: updates on leadership projects by Wikimedia movement organizers in Brazil and Cape Verde. (continue reading)
 * Internal knowledge management: launch of a new portal for technical documentation and community resources. (continue reading)
 * Innovate in free knowledge: high-quality audiovisual resources for scientific experiments and a new toolkit to record oral transcripts. (continue reading)
 * Evaluate, iterate, and adapt: results from the Equity Landscape project pilot (continue reading)
 * Other news and updates: a new forum to discuss Movement Strategy implementation, upcoming Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees election, a new podcast to discuss Movement Strategy, and change of personnel for the Foundation's Movement Strategy and Governance team. (continue reading)

Custom book search
Is there a way to search a book, and be sent to the subpage instantly if it exists (case insensitive), so in Minecraft, I search "Cat" or "cat" and get Minecraft/Cat instantly? But if the page does not exist, it sends me to the default search screen. Thanks. L10nM4st3r / Roar at me 07:38, 21 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Hi there, as I know of, there is a book search template. Template:Book search
 * I use it in my book Wikijunior:How Things Are Made Chhers Encik Tekateki (discuss • contribs) 12:46, 26 July 2022 (UTC)
 * I already know of tbat template. Is there a way to directly send you to the subpage if it exists? Doing so would make it easier for readers to find what they want quickly. L10nM4st3r / Roar at me 17:26, 26 July 2022 (UTC)
 * L10nM4st3r / Roar at me 17:28, 26 July 2022 (UTC)

 Announcing the six candidates for the 2022 Board of Trustees election



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Hi everyone,

The Affiliate voting process has concluded. Representatives from each Affiliate organization learned about the candidates by reading candidates’ statements, reviewing candidates’ answers to questions, and considering the candidates’ ratings provided by the Analysis Committee. The selected 2022 Board of Trustees candidates are:


 * Tobechukwu Precious Friday (Tochiprecious)
 * Farah Jack Mustaklem (Fjmustak)
 * Shani Evenstein Sigalov (Esh77)
 * Kunal Mehta (Legoktm)
 * Michał Buczyński (Aegis Maelstrom)
 * Mike Peel (Mike Peel)

You may see more information about the Results and Statistics of this Board election.

Please take a moment to appreciate the Affiliate Representatives and Analysis Committee members for taking part in this process and helping to grow the Board of Trustees in capacity and diversity. These hours of volunteer work connect us across understanding and perspective. Thank you for your participation.

Thank you to the community members who put themselves forward as candidates for the Board of Trustees. Considering joining the Board of Trustees is no small decision. The time and dedication candidates have shown to this point speaks to their commitment to this movement. Congratulations to those candidates who have been selected. A great amount of appreciation and gratitude for those candidates not selected. Please continue to share your leadership with Wikimedia.

Thank you to those who followed the Affiliate process for this Board election. You may review the results of the Affiliate selection process.

The next part of the Board election process is the community voting period. You may view the Board election timeline here. To prepare for the community voting period, there are several things community members can engage with in the following ways:


 * Read candidates’ statements and read the candidates’ answers to the questions posed by the Affiliate Representatives.
 * Propose and select the 6 questions for candidates to answer during their video Q&A.
 * See the Analysis Committee’s ratings of candidates on each candidate’s statement.
 * Propose statements for the Election Compass voters can use to find which candidates best fit their principles.
 * Encourage others in your community to take part in the election.

Best,

Movement Strategy and Governance

This message was sent on behalf of the Board Selection Task Force and the Elections CommitteeMervat (WMF) (discuss • contribs) 13:37, 20 July 2022 (UTC)

Location of a picture relative to sections in a page
Hi, How can a picture be located in a specific section in a page. In the Crash carts page the picture of the top drawer should be in the Top Drawer subsection, the picture of the middle drawer in the Middle Drawer subsection & etc. Thx, ... PeterEasthope (discuss • contribs) 15:12, 30 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Simply add the image wikicode just below the section you want. L10nM4st3r / Roar at me 20:34, 30 July 2022 (UTC)
 * We're at crossed purposes? The source of the Crash carts page is organized as you describe but my intention is to have section title "Top Drawer" adjacent to the top of the WaterlooCrashCartTopDrawer image. Section title "MiddleDrawer" adjacent to the top of the WaterlooCrashCartMiddleDrawer image. And etc. Sections can be padded manually with &#60;br> or set in cells of a table but automatic padding would be better. Thx, ... PeterEasthope (discuss • contribs) 01:46, 31 July 2022 (UTC)
 * I've gone ahead and fixed it. If a floating element, like a picture, is pushing content below it in a way you don't like, like it was there, use  just above the content being pushed downward (or the section with that content). L10nM4st3r / Roar at me 04:43, 31 July 2022 (UTC)

Request for comment: cookbook naming
, this is where you can ask for consensus to be made. See Cookbook talk:Table of Contents, near the bottom. I'll leave this to those who are more familiar with the cookbook than I am. L10nM4st3r / Roar at me 13:40, 24 July 2022 (UTC)
 * sorry, I mispelt your username above. I suggest watching this page. L10nM4st3r / Roar at me 13:43, 24 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Have added this to > Reading_room/Proposals Jamzze (discuss • contribs) 15:52, 24 July 2022 (UTC)

Let's talk about the Desktop Improvements
Join an online meeting with the team working on the Desktop Improvements! It will take place on 26 July 2022 at 12:00 UTC and 19:00 UTC on Zoom. Click here to join. Meeting ID: 5304280674. Dial by your location.

Read more. See you! SGrabarczuk (WMF) (talk) 16:19, 25 July 2022 (UTC)

 Vote for Election Compass Statements



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Hi all,

Volunteers in the 2022 Board of Trustees election are invited to vote for the statements. You can vote for the statements you would like to see included in the Election Compass on Meta-wiki.

An Election Compass is a tool to help voters select the candidates that best align with their beliefs and views. The community members will propose statements for the candidates to answer using a Lickert scale (agree/neutral/disagree). The candidates’ answers to the statements will be loaded into the Election Compass tool. Voters will use the tool by entering in their answer to the statements (agree/disagree/neutral). The results will show the candidates that best align with the voter’s beliefs and views.

Here is the timeline for the Election Compass:


 * July 8 - 20: Volunteers propose statements for the Election Compass
 * July 21 - 22: Elections Committee reviews statements for clarity and removes off-topic statements
 * July 23 - August 1: Volunteers vote on the statements
 * August 2 - 4: Elections Committee selects the top 15 statements
 * August 5 - 12: candidates align themselves with the statements
 * August 15: The Election Compass opens for voters to use to help guide their voting decision

The Elections Committee will select the top 15 statements at the beginning of August

Best,

Movement Strategy and Governance

This message was sent on behalf of the Board Selection Task Force and the Elections Committee

Mervat (WMF) (discuss • contribs) 20:13, 25 July 2022 (UTC) Mervat (WMF) (discuss • contribs) 20:13, 25 July 2022 (UTC)

Unknown completion?
Hello, the Oberon book displays a completion status of 90%. Someone please look at Shelf:Operating systems and tell me why Oberon is listed under "Unknown completion". Thanks, ... PeterEasthope (discuss • contribs) 20:16, 5 July 2022 (UTC)
 * page status only supports "0%", "25%", "50%", "75%" and "100%. You need to choose the one of those that best suits your need. Try "75%" for this one. L10nM4st3r / Roar at me 22:00, 5 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Now &#123;{decistage|9|Jul 5, 2022}} and &#123;{status|75|Jul 5, 2022}}. Still under "Unknown completion" in shelf lists. Must be something else. Thx, ... PeterEasthope (discuss • contribs) 22:13, 6 July 2022 (UTC)
 * did you add the % symbol? It is needed. L10nM4st3r / Roar at me 16:10, 19 July 2022 (UTC)
 * That works. Thanks.
 * Next question relating to access: there are shelves Linux, Mac OS & etc. How can I create Shelf:Oberon. Thx, ... PeterEasthope (discuss • contribs) 15:01, 30 July 2022 (UTC)
 * See ../Assistance, a user already posted a question about making shelves . L10nM4st3r / Roar at me 04:56, 31 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Appears that with only one book about Oberon, a shelf is not appropriate. OK, except that Oberon won't appear alongside Shelf:Linux, Shelf:Mac_OS & etc. I'm not fussed about it. Thx, ... PeterEasthope (discuss • contribs) 16:27, 31 July 2022 (UTC)

Change Cookbook categories - recipes by culture
Thanks @L10nM4st3r for pointing out this talk page. I think this might be the best area? - sorry added this to the wrong section!

Summary: suggesting to merge current recipes categorised by "country" into "culture" (e.g. British Cuisine instead of Cuisine of the United Kingdom) as it reflects the cultural aspect of food more, rather than it being limited to a political entity. This including diaspora groups more easily and follows what has already been established by Wikipedia's articles on cuisine.

Discussion from the Cookbook

"I think the way cuisines are currently presented is problematic. Mainly as I think there has been a conflation of the state (e.g. a political entity) with the nation (e.g. community, culture, and identity).

For example, people normally discuss "Chinese food" or "American food", or "French cuisine", rather than "cuisine of France" or "cuisine of the United Kingdom", which is normally presented as "British food/cuisine".

Additionally, when focusing on political entities, rather than cultural identities, it makes it difficult to discuss and record recipes from diaspora groups like Kurdish cuisine where they have no defined/ recognised country.

This has also created a duplication of effort in this Cookbook, as categories exist for both the state throughout Category:Cuisines and the nation/ culture/ identity of a community of people within Category:Recipes by origin - whereas the latter categorisation is more broad, inclusive, and offers more flexibility to record recipes by than focusing on the state itself.

I also feel the precedent to focus on food as a cultural aspect, rather than a political one, has been set by Wikipedia in that articles relating to food focus on cultural identities rather than political ones. E.g. "British Cuisine" rather than "cuisine of the United Kingdom", etc.

Trying to untangle this within the Cookbook will be a little bit of a challenge as a number of edits/ page renaming will need to be made, but I think would be helpful to readers in how recipes are presented".

Initial idea:


 * Rename pages throughout Cookbook:Cuisines from "Cuisine of X" to "X Cuisine" e.g. instead of Cuisine of Albania it would be Albanian Cuisine.
 * Rename Category:Recipes by origin to Category:Recipes by culture

Would be grand to have more input from people Jamzze (discuss • contribs) 15:57, 24 July 2022 (UTC)
 * I have no objections, but I'm not a cookbookian or a chef. L10nM4st3r / Roar at me 16:02, 24 July 2022 (UTC)
 * I understand the concern, although I do think there is some value in the identification of state cuisines since the construction of a state can result in cultural blending and the emergence of new, sometimes fusion cuisines. Additionally some things fall into multiple useful categories, neither of which is perfect but both of which have value. Just to make sure I understand, could you (@Jamzze) lay out exactly what you propose to do so we can all get an idea of the scope and what the end product would look like? -- Nostriker (discuss • contribs) 03:14, 26 July 2022 (UTC)
 * You have a good point.
 * Maybe the issue is a little more simple then. I think this issue could be solved by: 1) renaming pages throughout Cookbook:Cuisines from "Cuisine of X" to "X Cuisine" e.g. instead of Cuisine of Albania it would be Albanian Cuisine and 2) rename Category:Recipes by origin to Category:Recipes by culture. Jamzze (discuss • contribs) 08:22, 26 July 2022 (UTC)
 * I have no particular problem with using "X Cuisine" though it seems like it will require a lot of concerted effort to implement. I'm not sure "Recipes by culture" is the simplest or most accurate since not everything in that category is a culture per se, but they do all have an origin. I do think for both the suggestions you proposed it would be a good idea to get the opinion of an admin and/or someone who's been working on the cookbook for a while! -- Nostriker (discuss • contribs) 22:29, 26 July 2022 (UTC)