Wikibooks:Reading room/Archives/2019/June

Categories at the bottom of each page
What determines the word used to introduce the list of categories at the bottom of a page? It differs by namespace; in Cookbook it's "More", in Wikijunior it's "See also", in project space it's apparently either "Category" or "Categories" depending on how many there are. I've no problem with any of those. But in mainspace it's "Subjects", which was never quite right and now seems wrong. --Pi zero (discuss • contribs) 01:15, 21 May 2019 (UTC)
 * [//en.wikibooks.org/w/index.php?search=category+more+%22subjects%22+%22see+also%22&title=Special%3ASearch&profile=advanced&fulltext=1&advancedSearch-current=%7B%7D&ns8=1&ns10=1 I can't find it either] with the search engine. We don't have this particularity on the French Wikibooks and I don't think it comes from LocalSettings.php. So we might hack the code to find it. JackPotte (discuss • contribs) 07:39, 21 May 2019 (UTC)
 * See MediaWiki:Pagecategories. Leaderboard (discuss • contribs) 14:47, 7 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Awesome; thanks! --Pi zero (discuss • contribs) 17:13, 7 June 2019 (UTC)

Index pages not appearing on mobile version of wikibooks
I maintain the A-Level Computing wikibook and we have a lovely landing page that works on the desktop but is invisible on a mobile device:

https://en.m.wikibooks.org/wiki/A-level_Computing/AQA/Paper_2  <- invisible https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/A-level_Computing/AQA/Paper_2    <- visible

I can't find anything about this in the template file? I'd obviously like to have the page working on both systems, but can't understand why it isn't rendering. Pluke (discuss • contribs) 09:02, 7 June 2019 (UTC)


 * Something occurs to me, from some unpleasant past wrestling with mobile view. Mobile view hides some classes of boxes (via css afaik) based on assumptions that how those boxes happen to be used on Wikipedia is the only way of using them that matters.  A while back on en.wn, I created an alternative to ambox called xambox, because mobile view was assuming that anything said in an ambox wasn't important to display in mobile whereas on en.wn many of the most important page notices on the project used ambox.  Fixing it involved moderately deep magic impinging on templates, html markup, and css.  That might, at least, offer a place to start looking for the cause of the problem. --Pi zero (discuss • contribs) 10:43, 7 June 2019 (UTC)


 * thanks, that pointed me in the right direction. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Navbox where it says: "This template does not display in the mobile view of Wikipedia; it is desktop only. Read the documentation for an explanation.". Will dig a little deeper... Pluke (discuss • contribs) 14:06, 7 June 2019 (UTC)

Does Good (Quality revision) no longer work?
Went to mark | a page as being a Good revision once another editor had changed it, selected Good, Accept revision, and found that the new revision came up marked as "checked revision" rather than "quality revision". There doesn't seem to be any way for me to mark it as a quality revision... and I haven't seen any documentation for this new "Spot checked" box that appears. Does that have some effect on things? Chazz (talk) 19:46, 9 June 2019 (UTC)

Images in text
Wondering if anyone can recommend an approach for a technical difficulty.

The Quenya book depends heavily on a tengwar font that is external to wikimedia, and seems not to have been available at the provided external link for several years. There is a set of wikimedia-internal images at Commons:Category:SVG single Tengwa glyphs. However, I'm not sure there's any way to embed images within a line of text, nor to make image size change with text size (in section headings, for example). Suggestions appreciated. --Pi zero (discuss • contribs) 16:48, 11 June 2019 (UTC)
 * I think that it's the same as for PNGs: we can't automatically change the image sizes when varying our browser window size. But it's possible to define a grid with [//getbootstrap.com/docs/4.0/layout/grid/#grid-options Bootstrap], some ranges of window sizes in which the image CSS will be different. JackPotte (discuss • contribs) 17:30, 11 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Would it be possible to get a public-domain tengwar font uploaded to Commons? It seems to me that would be the simplest solution, no? Chazz (talk) 23:31, 11 June 2019 (UTC)

A proposal for WikiJournals to become a new sister project
Over the last few years, the WikiJournal User Group has been building and testing a set of peer reviewed academic journals on a mediawiki platform. The main types of articles are:


 * Existing Wikipedia articles submitted for external review and feedback (example)
 * From-scratch articles that, after review, are imported to Wikipedia (example)
 * Original research articles that are not imported to Wikipedia (example)

Proposal: WikiJournals as a new sister project

From a Wikipedian point of view, this is a complementary system to Featured article review, but bridging the gap with external experts, implementing established scholarly practices, and generating citable, doi-linked publications.

Please take a look and support/oppose/comment! Evolution and evolvability (discuss • contribs) 04:18, 3 June 2019 (UTC)

Where do I go to start a wikibook ? I am not familiar with wikibooks ?
Dear Technical assistance team,

I clicked on " starting a wikibook " but it was not very helpful. Where do I click in order to start a wikibook ? How can I produce chapters, do I use my sandbox ? Please can you give me a link that will allow me to start my wikibook.

Regards --Sutton Publishing (discuss • contribs) 12:07, 13 June 2019 (UTC)
 * The best starting point is to read this: Using Wikibooks. QuiteUnusual (discuss • contribs) 14:37, 13 June 2019 (UTC)

I want to become a reviewer
What are the criteria to be a reviewer? Debanshu.Das (discuss • contribs) 15:19, 4 June 2019 (UTC)
 * once you are around for a bit longer, you'll become a reviewer automatically --DannyS712 (discuss • contribs) 15:25, 4 June 2019 (UTC)
 * The hope is to let folks acclimate to the local culture before they get the review bit. --Pi zero (discuss • contribs) 15:56, 4 June 2019 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks to DannyS712 and Pi zero for clearing my doubts.

Printable and pdf version of book
Some books have a printable and a pdf version. I can't understand how to make the same for the book 'QBasic' (although it is not needed now). It will be nice to know in advance how to do it so that I can immediately make the versions available.Debanshu.Das (discuss • contribs) 11:18, 5 June 2019 (UTC)
 * It's explained into Help:Print versions. JackPotte (discuss • contribs) 12:34, 5 June 2019 (UTC)

can we use images from outside
Hello, just a query. Can we utilise images from external websites. If yes, then how? Debanshu.Das (discuss • contribs) 08:44, 9 June 2019 (UTC)
 * It depends. If the image is free (i.e, the license allows you to reuse the image), then it should be uploaded at Wikimedia Commons. However, in other cases (will be mostly the case when you take images from the web), the assets are not free, and you will have to request uploading the image to Wikibooks at WB:RFI or apply for Uploader if you plan to upload many such images. Leaderboard (discuss • contribs) 08:48, 9 June 2019 (UTC)

Not included in print version(part of it)
Hello, Just asking something. In the print version, I have included one of my pages. Part of it is coming, but the later included sections are not coming. Just to let you know, if it might matter, the page was a really big one, with the latest section added, (which is creating all the problems) being somewhere near 3000 bytes. I have not included the tag or anything like that. Please tell me why this is happening.Debanshu.Das (discuss • contribs) 16:39, 10 June 2019 (UTC)
 * You can practice a null edit, by saving the print page without modifying it, to force the server cache renewal. JackPotte (discuss • contribs) 07:41, 11 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Wow, that worked. Thanks a lot! Debanshu.Das (discuss • contribs) 14:56, 11 June 2019 (UTC)

Pdf problem
I have been seeing all the pdf versions of the "featured books". They seem to have something of a license page at the front, followed by the contents table. Now, I have seen their print versions, and there was nothing of the sort there. I have made a pdf using two ways, the print option and the download as pdf option. None of them have the features I have talked about. Can someone please tell me how the pdf versions were made? Debanshu.Das (discuss • contribs) 15:37, 11 June 2019 (UTC)
 * The PDF versions are normally made from the print versions, which can use the following templates: Category:Print templates. JackPotte (discuss • contribs) 17:39, 11 June 2019 (UTC)

Can accidental rollbacks be undone?
I was reading the help page on editing Help:Editing, and I noticed that it mentioned that clicking the rollback button instantly reverts all of the edits applied by the most recent editor without any confirmation to protect against accidentally clicking the rollback button. I am worried that I may someday accidentally click the rollback button and lose all of my work. Can accidental rollbacks be reversed?

Thanks,

Math buff (discuss • contribs) 22:37, 24 June 2019 (UTC)


 * Not to worry; a rollback leaves a record in the page revision history, just like any other edit. So it can be undone. --Pi zero (discuss • contribs) 23:38, 24 June 2019 (UTC)


 * Thank you for your clarification. Math buff (discuss • contribs) 01:31, 25 June 2019 (UTC)

False positives
I am not sure that denying external links because of a mere technicality (that users' accounts are too new) is reasonable in my view if the reason is adequate enough (like this. Yes, we are not a link factory, but these are cases which would be otherwise acceptable.

P.S: That was the idea behind Edit_filter/URL_requests, and while many requests there are denied, there are a significant number of requests which are reasonable as well. Leaderboard (discuss • contribs) 22:02, 26 June 2019 (UTC)


 * Well, a couple of thoughts.
 * The filter log presumably understates the effect of the current restriction, because the log can't show that a spammer didn't try, knowing it wouldn't work.
 * Those slowed down by the restriction may be encouraged to a lasting attitude of conservativism in external linking.
 * --Pi zero (discuss • contribs) 01:42, 27 June 2019 (UTC)

Wikiness
I've written an essay, in my userspace, about what direction I believe wikis should be heading for. Though short, it develops several themes I've had in mind for a while. I'd be interested in other Wikibookians' thoughts on it (at all levels &mdash; articulation, ideas, issues). --Pi zero (discuss • contribs) 16:02, 29 June 2019 (UTC)
 * User:Pi zero/essays/Wikiness