Wikibooks:Reading room/Archives/2019/August

New tools and IP masking
Hey everyone,

The Wikimedia Foundation wants to work on two things that affect how we patrol changes and handle vandalism and harassment. We want to make the tools that are used to handle bad edits better. We also want to get better privacy for unregistered users so their IP addresses are no longer shown to everyone in the world. We would not hide IP addresses until we have better tools for patrolling.

We have an idea of what tools could be working better and how a more limited access to IP addresses would change things, but we need to hear from more wikis. You can read more about the project on Meta and post comments and feedback. Now is when we need to hear from you to be able to give you better tools to handle vandalism, spam and harassment.

You can post in your language if you can't write in English. Johan (WMF)  14:18, 21 August 2019 (UTC)

PDF.
You cannot upload PDF., Right?--46.35.99.34 (discuss) 00:45, 25 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Usually, uploads should go to . What did you have in mind to upload here? —Justin ( koavf ) ❤T☮C☺M☯ 01:30, 25 August 2019 (UTC)
 * I would like to move File:Manual de Bolsillo Wikipedia - Wikimedia Argentina.pdf from Commons. Just as I pass text to .MONUMENTA (discuss • contribs) 01:58, 25 August 2019 (UTC)
 * If it's already on Commons, why do you need a local copy? —Justin ( koavf ) ❤T☮C☺M☯ 02:05, 25 August 2019 (UTC)

Modern Greek
I'm struggling to wrap my head around a series of edits made to book Modern Greek on March 31 by user Vitagamma. At first, I really didn't want to get involved at all; I know pretty nearly nothing at all about modern Greek, so would be easily able to review things only if they're either obvious vandalism, or simple improvements obviously legit. However, in this case the edit to the book main page looked peculiar, and I felt a need to look further to put it in context. The more I looked into these edits, the more it appeared that basic content was being replaced with something following an entirely different outline, without any discussion on talk pages nor acknowledgement on the main page. I rejected the changes to the main page, and I believe I was right to do so because those were, at best, malformed. I rejected changes to another page, and I think I'm on solid ground there because the edits in question added particles (like English "the") in front of a bunch of vocabulary, whereas the translations have no particles; there are other sets of vocabulary that use such particles and the translations then include an English particle. Changes to other pages are more invasive. If I were preparing to revert more extensive changes I'd study them intensively &mdash; but before going that far, I'd really be very interested in other opinions on this. --Pi zero (discuss • contribs) 02:15, 4 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Many qualified people reading in the Wikipedia article won't be aware of the evolution of the book. A request in the talk page might obtain some help. Regards, ... PeterEasthope (discuss • contribs) 03:57, 29 August 2019 (UTC)

Marine Engines
Hi, I'm thinking to begin a book about marine engines. Possible titles: "Marine Engines" or "Small Marine Engines". I tend to favour the first. More general is better than more specific. For reference, the most pertinent article I find in Wikipedia is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marine_propulsion. Any comments or suggestions about this. Thanks, ... PeterEasthope (discuss • contribs) 00:40, 29 August 2019 (UTC)

Renaming "GCSE Computer Science"
I have updated the content of GCSE Computer Science to the newer syllabuses and so would like rename the book as GCSE Computer Science(9-1) to indicate the current nature of the book. The assistance of an admin would be much appreciated. Johnkn63 (discuss • contribs) 08:30, 22 August 2019 (UTC)


 * Would that be GCSE Computer Science(9-1) or GCSE Computer Science (9-1)? The difference being a space before the left-parenthesis.  I would have thought the latter, with the space.  Wouldn't want to rename the whole book and then discover the name wasn't quite right and have to do it all again! --Pi zero (discuss • contribs) 12:22, 22 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Good point, with a space GCSE Computer Science (9-1) would be best. Thank you!Johnkn63 (discuss • contribs) 04:26, 23 August 2019 (UTC)
 * "9 - 1" is just a grading scale. I would keep the name as it is and make a note on the front page that it refers to the current version of the book. Leaderboard (discuss • contribs) 14:50, 22 August 2019 (UTC)
 * This was my initial thought. However have subsequently become aware the differences are more than just the grading scale, and more importantly that for many of the target audience, students of the exam, such a difference in title is significant. Johnkn63 (discuss • contribs) 04:55, 23 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Yes, but what would be the issue with noting the change in the title page? After all, if this is V2, and five years later, another change is effected, then you'll have to change the names all over again... (or alternatively keep the link the same but change the display name?) Leaderboard (discuss • contribs) 03:02, 24 August 2019 (UTC)

Moving the pages in Wikijunior:How Things are Made
Hi ,I accidentally create some pages without great foresight as I want to group the item lists according to their category

Need to move the following pages from:

Wikijunior:How Things Are Made/Ceramic/Ceramic Tiles
 * Wikijunior:How Things are Made/Ceramic Tiles to Wikijunior:How Things are Made/Ceramic/Ceramic Tiles

Wikijunior:How Things Are Made/Ceramic/Ceramic Wares
 * Wikijunior:How Things are Made/Ceramic Wares to Wikijunior:How Things are Made/Ceramic/Ceramic Wares

Wikijunior:How Things Are Made/Wood/Newspaper
 * Wikijunior:How Things are Made/Paper things/Newspaper to Wikijunior:How Things are Made/Wood/Newspaper

Wikijunior:How Things Are Made/Wood/Paper
 * Wikijunior:How Things are Made/Paper things/Paper to Wikijunior:How Things are Made/Wood/Paper

- By Wikijunior contributor, Encik Tekateki (discuss • contribs) 06:47, 24 August 2019 (UTC)
 * If anyone does this, I'd urge you to consider "... Are ..." for the title. —Justin ( koavf ) ❤T☮C☺M☯ 07:06, 24 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Ahh.. You meant changing from How Things are Made to How Things Are Made ? AM I correct Encik Tekateki (discuss • contribs) 07:20, 24 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Correct. —Justin ( koavf ) ❤T☮C☺M☯ 07:56, 24 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Hi ,just in case you missed this - Pinged by: Encik Tekateki (discuss • contribs) 07:44, 25 August 2019 (UTC)
 * I'll try to do it in the next few minutes; which means things may be moving around. --Pi zero (discuss • contribs) 12:27, 25 August 2019 (UTC) --Pi zero (discuss • contribs) 12:27, 25 August 2019 (UTC)
 * I've moved the book, and I've moved those four subpages within it. You'll need to fix/rearrange some links between pages.  I noticed BookCat was missing from a bunch of the pages, probably because it had been omitted from the page-template; so I added it to all the existing pages and to the template. --Pi zero (discuss • contribs) 12:55, 25 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Nice Pi zero, thanks a lot for your help !
 * P.S: Also delete this Wikijunior:How Things Are Made/Paper things, you miss this during the transfer. Thanks once again.
 * Always grateful --Encik Tekateki (discuss • contribs) 15:20, 25 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Did a history merge on that one. --Pi zero (discuss • contribs) 15:54, 25 August 2019 (UTC)