Wikibooks:Reading room/Archives/2018/April

Variations of recipes in the cookbook
Hello everyone,

so, I have a nettle and mushroom risotto recipe I'd like to share but there is already a risotto recipe. Should I just skip it, as it's a variation of risotto, or just go on, as there are anyway many kinds of risotto? Once risotto can vary a lot from another, should we then create different recipes or putting them all together in the risotto page?

Thanks!

Beleriandcrises (discuss • contribs) 19:52, 17 April 2018 (UTC)

Possible wikibooks prayer book?
Maybe this is a stupid question, but would the rules of this site be such as to allow a book which might qualify as a how-to book regarding the various Christian rosaries, chaplets and similar sets of prayers? Probably best to ping me or leave a note on my talk page with the response, if and when one of you makes a response. John Carter (discuss • contribs) 16:37, 20 April 2018 (UTC)

Internal Links within a Chapter
Somehow I cannot figure out how to do internal links. I have added a short subsection : https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/OpenSSH/Cookbook/Proxies_and_Jump_Hosts#Transiting_a_Jump_Host_Which_Has_Multiple_RDomains_/_Routing_Tables

At the end of that, I would like to link to a subsequent section : https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/OpenSSH/Cookbook/Proxies_and_Jump_Hosts#ProxyCommand_with_Netcat

I though that the format would be more or less this: ProxyCommand with Netcat

However, that gives me a "redlink" rather than a link to the existing subsection.

What have I missed? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Larsnooden (discuss • contribs) 03:59, 14 April 2018


 * Looks as if you've omitted the  part of the page name, in between   and  .  This should do it:
 * which produces
 * ProxyCommand with Netcat
 * --Pi zero (discuss • contribs) 04:49, 14 April 2018 (UTC)
 * That was it. Thanks.  I'm not sure how I omitted that and didn't notice.  Larsnooden (discuss • contribs) 04:58, 14 April 2018 (UTC)
 * That was it. Thanks.  I'm not sure how I omitted that and didn't notice.  Larsnooden (discuss • contribs) 04:58, 14 April 2018 (UTC)

Citation formats
How can I include the URL in the citation? I notice that the citations in the Print Version don't include actual URLs of the sources cited. The Help:Print_Versions page doesn't mention how to toggle that. e.g. notice the first four citations here : https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/OpenSSH/Print_version

A more general question would be if there is a way to have the references in the Printed Versions conform to a specific citation style? The main three would be APA, MLA, or Chicago as the important ones to cover. Larsnooden (discuss • contribs) 08:09, 21 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Do you have at least one example of this please? As far as I know, the actual URLs of the sources have always been included, like the following one from your last edition: "The Secure Shell (SSH) Authentication Protocol" into OpenSSH/Print version.
 * Maybe you've encountered a server cache problem, in this case you can always refresh the print version manually by saving an edition of OpenSSH/Print version without changing anything into it (a null edit in the jargon). JackPotte (discuss • contribs) 16:03, 21 April 2018 (UTC)
 * If we look at the beginning: https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/OpenSSH/Print_version
 * There are four references in the forward. The text is hyperlinked, but the URLs are not displayed when printed.  When printed via LibreOffice it looks like this:
 * The hostnames or domains are listed if they are recorded as Publisher, but the URLs for the title document itself are missing if I copy-paste the document or save it as HTML and then import it into LibreOffice for formatting before printing. I add indexes and work with the some of the page breaks and add a title page before setting to paper.
 * I missed it earlier but I see now that the URLs are there in the print preview. Very cool.  That's nice CSS work, can it be made to show the URLs also in some other optional circumstances?  Or is there a way to read that into LibreOffice but not as PDF? Larsnooden (discuss • contribs) 17:29, 21 April 2018 (UTC)
 * When I print this book in PDF from Firefox, I've got that:
 * If I open this PDF in LibreOffice Draw, I've got them too, but a lot of the book pagination is dirty and we can't fix that from here. JackPotte (discuss • contribs) 00:19, 22 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Yes, that's the output I'm looking for but in HTML or ODT so I can indexes and tweak pagination and other layout issues. PDF is terminal-stage data format, not for editing.  I am working with the HTML produced by Wikibooks and importing (yes) that into LibreOffice writer to get an OpenDocument Format file and then working with that for the pagination, adding indexes, and other fine tuning.  I see the CSS class "printonly" applied to the SPAN element surrounding the URLs, blocking them from visibility in my use-case.  Is there a way to have an option to produce an HTML page that uses the same CSS as would have been used to produce a PDF?  I think that would address the main problems in the first question. Larsnooden (discuss • contribs) 03:39, 22 April 2018 (UTC)
 * You could try to copy MediaWiki:Print.css into User:Larsnooden/common.css before the HTML creation, and remove it after, but I can't guarantee the result. JackPotte (discuss • contribs) 09:17, 22 April 2018 (UTC)
 * I couldn't get contents of User:Larsnooden/common.css to show up in the Print_version page. Maybe it is a cache issue.  However, after all this trouble I finally noticed this link which shows more or less what I want:     https://en.wikibooks.org/w/index.php?title=OpenSSH/Print_version&printable=yes
 * So we can mark this one solved. Thanks for the patience.  Larsnooden (discuss • contribs) 14:31, 22 April 2018 (UTC)
 * I couldn't get contents of User:Larsnooden/common.css to show up in the Print_version page. Maybe it is a cache issue.  However, after all this trouble I finally noticed this link which shows more or less what I want:     https://en.wikibooks.org/w/index.php?title=OpenSSH/Print_version&printable=yes
 * So we can mark this one solved. Thanks for the patience.  Larsnooden (discuss • contribs) 14:31, 22 April 2018 (UTC)

I cannot reviewe pages anymore
Is this a bug? 00:14, 3 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Hi. I had to look this up in the user rights log.  It seems QU removed your reviewer rights on 12 December, with log comment "Removing reviewer flag. Repeated bad edits being autoreviewed and needing subsequent fixes".  --Pi zero (discuss • contribs) 00:39, 3 March 2018 (UTC)
 * That's right. With hundreds of semi automated bad edits still waiting to be fixed, I removed the flag to prevent further damage. Your bot like activities were accepting previous vandalism edits requiring hand fixing and you were unresponsive to requests to stop.

I was considering blocking you actually but settled for damage limitation. If you agree to not use automated edits via your account then you can have the flag back. QuiteUnusual (discuss • contribs) 21:44, 4 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Ok I will promise not to do bot-like activities. 15:51, 18 March 2018 (UTC)
 * I like to bring an example. There were few chess articles that had a backlog in special:pendingchanges and were edited by you after a few ip edits. That range of IP users, now globally blocked, had entered malware links amid other, although somewhat decent, edit. You're edits was an impediment from my outright rejecting the (pending) malware edits. I had to go into the history, reject the Ip edits, and accept your.. That was a bit of a trip. Artix Kreiger (discuss • contribs) 17:27, 8 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Or examples like this where pointless edits were made requiring review. QuiteUnusual (discuss • contribs) 17:03, 26 April 2018 (UTC)