Wikibooks:Reading room/Archives/2016/February

Citing Web Pages on Wikibooks?
Hello - I'm new to wikibooks and in an assignment I'm attempting to complete, I'm trying to figure out how to cite web-pages? All the information I'm getting is how to cite books, but the website I'm trying to add is an outside resource. It keeps telling me I'm trying to insert an email, which I'm not. Please help? Thanks. Hfk667 (discuss • contribs) 14:34, 16 February 2016 (UTC).
 * It sounds as if you may be using that awful VisualEditor thing. I recommend not using that.  Wiki markup is super easy, that's the reason wikis were ever successful in the first place; people learn wiki markup mostly by example, by seeing how others have written markup to do things; and you can't see how they did it if you use a pseudo-WYSIWYG editor that hides the markup from you. I've added a bit about links to Wikipedia to the Wiki-Markup chapter of book Using Wikibooks.  --Pi zero (discuss • contribs) 14:40, 16 February 2016 (UTC)


 * Thanks. I don't know what I'm using - I just click edit and it comes up with the blue-and-white box to edit with. I'm brand new, as in, started an hour ago. :) I'll check out the book you linked! Much appreciated. Hfk667 (discuss • contribs) 14:45, 16 February 2016 (UTC)


 * It still doesn't give me any information about adding outside links? I want to link to a completely non-wiki related website and it still won't let submit it. Hfk667 (discuss • contribs) 14:57, 16 February 2016 (UTC)
 * You are trying to cite a web page here but it's not letting you? Which page are you trying to edit? —Justin ( koavf ) ❤T☮C☺M☯ 15:00, 16 February 2016 (UTC)


 * Just my User:Talk page, or rather here, User:discussion. I'm just trying to cite a source for a little school project and it keeps telling me a generic link is an email and won't let me post it. Hfk667 (discuss • contribs) 15:04, 16 February 2016 (UTC)
 * This is likely because you are a new user. I would suggest trying something like "example[dot]example" or "example .example" to see if that works. After you make X edits or are here for Y days this restriction should disappear. —Justin ( koavf ) ❤T☮C☺M☯ 15:06, 16 February 2016 (UTC)


 * Even attempting to add in a link through the link feature won't work. I'll just leave it for a day or so and try again after trying with the example. thanks. Hfk667 (discuss • contribs) 15:08, 16 February 2016 (UTC)

New topic in text box
Hello, I am new to Wikibooks and I am using it as part of a University assignment. I was wondering if you could advise me while I make edits, how do I create new topics in a text box with out changing the entire layout? I have tried this before and when I added the new section it changed the full layout. Thank you for your help. LucyClaire (discuss • contribs) 21:05, 23 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Hi, LucyClaire. I'm uncertain what it is you want to do.  Could you give an example (or point to one), perhaps?  You can put wiki markup into an example by surrounding it with  ...  tags, like this:

Wiki markup with italics and wikilinks and and and whatnot in it.
 * --Pi zero (discuss • contribs) 01:40, 24 February 2016 (UTC)

Hi, when editing a page which may have a table of contents in it, I can't seem to edit the table without changing the full layout. I understand that you can use the symbol | so make a table but it doesn't work when I edit a page with a table. LucyClaire (discuss • contribs) 11:15, 24 February 2016 (UTC)


 * I'm not sure what you're describing, so maybe I should back up a bit and check some of my assumptions. First of all, are you using VisualEditor?  (Hopefully, no you aren't.)  If you don't know what that question means... when you edit a page, do you see something that's trying to look like the output, or do you see a text-input box with raw wiki markup inside it?  If it's trying to look like the output, that's VisualEditor.  --Pi zero (discuss • contribs) 16:43, 24 February 2016 (UTC)

Markups
Hello, I was wondering if someone could help me and explain how the markup works if I want to link to an external website or Wikipedia ? Thank you very much--Handkel (discuss • contribs) 12:05, 16 February 2016 (UTC)


 * Hey, I don't know, if I am allowed to aswer, but I guess you are from the same class. I just posted it on our class discussion page: Here is a helpful overview: Interwiki Links, Just enter (without the spaces): [ [ w: Wikipedia page name | Link label ] ]
 * And it will look like this: Surprise Page
 * SchrumpflinH (discuss • contribs) 14:19, 16 February 2016 (UTC)


 * Hi, Handkel. I've added a bit about links to sister projects (like Wikipedia) to the section on links at Using Wikibooks/Wiki-Markup.  There's stuff about external links in the Editing Wikitext book.  There are also plenty of examples of these things in most books here; learning by example is a pretty efficient way to pick this stuff up (in all seriousness, I recommend it &mdash; ironic though that may be on a book site after naming books that have the information in them). --Pi zero (discuss • contribs) 14:26, 16 February 2016 (UTC)


 * Hi I had the same problem, as it would not let me link to external websites. When the email message shows up, ignore it and put the security word anyway. Then, it makes you put a security word again and at that point it should save your entry as normal. It has worked for me, hopefully it'll work for you too! --Everynameistaken15 (discuss • contribs) 16:02, 16 February 2016 (UTC)

Thanks very much you helped alot ! I could now complete the markup without any further problems and I will look it up in the books and the sites you recommended if there are any further questions occuring.user:Pi zero SchrumpflinH user:Everynameistaken15--Handkel (discuss • contribs) 21:34, 16 February 2016 (UTC)

Interwiki Images
Hi everyone,

I am setting up a Wikibook page and I wonder, if it is possible to implement Wikipedia images? If yes, can anyone explain me how I should proceed? Normally I would go right and for Interwiki linking I would add a w: Thanks for any help you can offer me!

SchrumpflinH (discuss • contribs) 13:51, 16 February 2016 (UTC)


 * We can't view images that are uploaded on Wikipedia. If they're suitable for upload to Commons, we can view images on Commons.  Images can also be uploaded directly to Wikibooks, but the ability to do that is a special privilege.  --Pi zero (discuss • contribs) 14:28, 16 February 2016 (UTC)


 * What a pitty...but thanks! SchrumpflinH (discuss • contribs) 14:34, 16 February 2016 (UTC)

Headline after Table disappears
Hello again,

so I embedded a table and now I have some text with heading below it, but the header just disappears...

Here is a short version of everything:

Forms of visibility and information available online
This column describes [...]

Unless I add a dot or any other character before the heading, it will just not appear or go to the right side of the table. Do you know where I made a mistake? I am thankful for any advise. :) - SchrumpflinH (discuss • contribs) 13:07, 17 February 2016 (UTC)


 * It looks as if the wiki software can't handle a float that occupies the entire width of the page immediately followed by a section heading. For example, if you add   to the table style, the section heading does appear to the right of it.  Notice that even when the section heading doesn't appear, it's still listed in the table of contents at the top of this page. I recommend you either limit the width of the table so it doesn't occupy the whole width of the page, or don't make it a float.  --Pi zero (discuss • contribs) 13:21, 17 February 2016 (UTC)


 * Oh wow, thanks for your help! I just didn't noticed I had it floating ( I don't need that if the table is that big). Now everything is nice again. :) - SchrumpflinH (discuss • contribs) 15:12, 17 February 2016 (UTC)

Marking people
Hey :) can anyone tell me how to mark other users i.e. when I want to comment on their answers etc? You know the @user thing. Thanks! Askoelsche (discuss • contribs) 13:27, 24 February 2016 (UTC)
 * You mean Template:Ping? Like ? --Atcovi (Talk - Contribs) 15:25, 24 February 2016 (UTC)

I'm looking for a space to recreate and expand the Good and Cheap cookbook in a wiki format.
I'd like to post and expand this cookbook:

http://www.leannebrown.com/good-and-cheap.pdf

Is this a viable project on your site?
 * No it isn't I'm afraid. That book is licensed under CC-BY-NC-SA which is not compatible with the Wikibooks license. Specifically, we require commercial derivatives to be allowed and the Leanne Brown license does not. You cannot adapt the book and change the license. QuiteUnusual (discuss • contribs) 13:49, 2 February 2016 (UTC)

Thanks, I will let the author know, and find another host.

VisualEditor News #1—2016
Read this in another language • Subscription list for this multilingual newsletter



Did you know?

Among experienced editors, the visual editor's table editing is one of the most popular features. If you select the top of a column or the end of a row, you can quickly insert and remove columns and rows.

Now, you can also rearrange columns and rows. Click "Move before" or "Move after" to swap the column or row with its neighbor. You can read and help translate the user guide, which has more information about how to use the visual editor.

Since the last newsletter, the VisualEditor Team has fixed many bugs. Their workboard is available in Phabricator. Their current priorities are improving support for Japanese, Korean, Arabic, Indic, and Han scripts, and improving the single edit tab interface.

Recent changes
You can switch from the wikitext editor to the visual editor after you start editing. This function is available to nearly all editors at most wikis except the Wiktionaries and Wikisources.

Many local feedback pages for the visual editor have been redirected to mw:VisualEditor/Feedback.

You can now re-arrange columns and rows in tables, as well as copying a row, column or any other selection of cells and pasting it in a new location.

The formula editor has two options: you can choose "Quick edit" to see and change only the LaTeX code, or "Edit" to use the full tool. The full tool offers immediate preview and an extensive list of symbols.

Future changes
The single edit tab project will combine the "" and "" tabs into a single "" tab. This is similar to the system already used on the mobile website. (T102398) Initially, the "" tab will open whichever editing environment you used last time. Your last editing choice will be stored as an account preference for logged-in editors, and as a cookie for logged-out users. Logged-in editors will have these options in the tab of Special:Preferences: The visual editor uses the same search engine as Special:Search to find links and files. This search will get better at detecting typos and spelling mistakes soon. These improvements to search will appear in the visual editor as well.
 * , and
 * . (This is the state for people using the visual editor now.)
 * , and
 * . (This is the state for people using the visual editor now.)

The visual editor will be offered to all editors at most "Phase 6" Wikipedias during the next few months. This will affect the following languages, amongst others: Japanese, Korean, Urdu, Persian, Arabic, Tamil, Marathi, Malayalam, Hindi, Bengali, Assamese, Thai, Aramaic.

Let's work together
If you aren't reading this in your favorite language, then please help us with translations! Subscribe to the Translators mailing list or contact us directly, so that we can notify you when the next issue is ready. Elitre (WMF), 19:21, 26 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Please try out the newest version of the single edit tab on test2.wikipedia.org. You may need to restore the default preferences (at the bottom of test2wiki:Special:Preferences) to see the initial prompt for options. Were you able to find a preference setting that will work for your own editing? Did you see the large preferences dialog box when you started editing an article there?
 * Can you read and type in Korean, Arabic, Japanese, Indic, or Han scripts? Does typing in these languages feels natural in the visual editor? Language engineer David Chan needs to know. Please see the instructions at mw:VisualEditor/IME Testing if you can help. Please post your comments and the language(s) that you tested at the feedback thread on mediawiki.org.
 * Learn how to improve the "automagical" citoid referencing system in the visual editor, by creating Zotero translators for popular sources in your language! Join the Tech Talk about "Automated citations in Wikipedia: Citoid and the technology behind it" with Sebastian Karcher on 29 February 2016.