Wikibooks:Featured books/Nominations/Removal/FHSST Physics

FHSST Physics
This book's content was being based off text at http://www.fhsst.org. However, that site is still GFDL-licensed and we are now dual-licensed with the CC-BY-SA license. Therefore, no new content can be added to the book from that site. It can be added from the source PDF uploaded to Commons and linked from the main page. However, the PDF is filled with red "notes to self" on missing content. That is a problem because this featured book is incomplete. Presumably the updated version on the site fills in the holes, but as mentioned before, we cannot use it due to licensing. Many of the pages have red-linked images that were never uploaded. They cannot be added now either, as images must be dual-licensed now as well.

Take FHSST Physics/Units/How Units Can Help You; an incomplete table and notes to self. Look at the contents page and see all the "to do lists" under each chapter. Take a look at FHSST Physics/Electronics/Active Circuit Elements for what I mean by missing images. Comparing the book to the source PDF, geometrical optics has been omitted. The chapter on pressure is incomplete in both. An incomplete book with many missing images and lacking content, with to-do notes all over the place, based off an incomplete PDF, that cannot have images added from the source PDF or be updated from the latest version, does not seem to me to be featured book material. In fact, I don't know that this book can go anywhere in the long term except have its better parts merged into more generic physics books. -- Adrignola talk contribs 13:20, 14 May 2010 (UTC)


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 * If Images are licensed as GFDL, they can be uploaded to Commons.
 * The Wikimedia Foundation only requires the text be dual licensed (CC-BY-SA + GFDL).
 * --33rogers (talk) 15:38, 14 May 2010 (UTC)


 * I suggest leaving messages on User:Riaan, User:Marknewlyn, User:Sj and tell them the book is going to be delisted unless they fix the problems. --33rogers (talk) 15:38, 14 May 2010 (UTC)
 * The first two haven't been here in five years and the last is busy as a member of the Wikimedia Board of Trustees and hasn't edited the book since 2005 as well. I don't see the point. Notice was placed on the main page of the book (same with the above books you commented on). -- Adrignola talk contribs 16:42, 14 May 2010 (UTC)
 * When you place a notice on their talk pages, they will be emailed (I think it is default in preferences). Does Wikibooks have a generic template for this purpose (to be placed in User Talk space)? --33rogers (talk) 19:07, 14 May 2010 (UTC)
 * There is a template to notify editors of a pending deletion, but nothing related to this. To be frank I don't know why you're asking for notifications to be made on all these removals; we're not calling for a deletion of the books, rather a discussion of metadata applied to the books.  This book in particular was nominated in April 2007, itself two years after the above editors stopped working on the book.  I don't wish to create a precedent on this. -- Adrignola talk contribs 20:12, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

I support removal from Featured Books as no one seems to be bothered to fix it :( --33rogers (talk) 16:53, 18 May 2010 (UTC)


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 * I'm a tad rusty on talk page etiquette (and syntax) so please don't flame me right away :)
 * I'm one of the co-founders of the FHSST project mentioned above. I'm happy for you to remove the featured book status (thanks for featuring the book for so long). This version wasn't complete when we uploaded it and moving to WikiBooks was an experiment to see if we could leverage (ugh! I hate that word) the community to help get it finished faster. We found that we got some very minor contributions that didn't take into account the curriculum we were writing for and realised a completely open wiki wasn't easily going to work for us. TBH WikiBooks seems to have evolved a lot since then and things might be different now but thats irrelevant here.
 * Licence: We did actually get permission from all FHSST authors to release the books CC-BY (we weren't really interested in licence debates just how to help education) but it doesn't say this on the FHSST site. We have been uploading the books to the CC-BY licensed authoring platform and repository http://cnx.org
 * FYI: I didn't receive email notification about anything on my talk page and just stumbled across this discussion by chance as I was visiting WikiBooks for the first time in quite a while. If you do want to contact me then going through http://www.markhorner.net is best but I don't think you need anything from me.
 * --User:marknewlyn