Wikibooks:Featured books/Nominations/Addition/New Zealand History

A Concise New Zealand History
A concise, easy to read book on the history of New Zealand. Helpfulstuffnz 06:35, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
 * [[Image:Symbol support vote.svg|15px]] Support It could be made a bit more attractive but this is a good book and is very detailed for something that describes itself as "concise". Xania [[Image:Flag_of_Italy.svg|15px]]talk 01:04, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
 * [[Image:Symbol support vote.svg|15px]] Support - Looks like a nice book. -within focus 01:22, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
 * [[Image:Symbol comment vote.svg|15px]] Comment - "Concise" it is, but I can't help but think it is wholly lacking in detail. This isn't a textbook; it's a pamphlet. Most history textbooks are hundreds of pages; is a text this short really useful? I know it was renamed to "A Concise New Zealand History" out of concern that an enormous text would be intimidating to readers, but I think might be borderline useless. There's literally two sentences about NZ gaining independence. I think more detail is needed to do justice to the subject matter, even if you're aiming for a short book. That said, I'm open to persuasion since what's there is good quality.  – Mike.lifeguard  &#124; talk 21:42, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
 * [[Image:Symbol comment vote.svg|15px]] Comment - Why should a useful text have to be hundreds of pages long? This book is an introduction to New Zealand history. Not everyone wants to wade through an enormous text, if you did then New Zealand History online would be a good place to start. What is lacking is a concise history of New Zealand; there are already plenty of long histories of New Zealand on the internet. I have a relative who doesn't like history, but found the New Zealand History book very interesting and she learned a lot. She wouldn't have gone near a big text on New Zealand history. This book is aimed at people like her. Helpfulstuffnz (talk) 03:30, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
 * [[Image:Symbol support vote.svg|15px]]  - I never said it had to be hundreds of pages long, I'm just saying that this is shorter than what I would consider to be a very short textbook. I'm quite serious when I call it a pamphlet. It could literally be printed on like 5 sheets of paper. I think that more than 2 sentences on independence (for example) should be present to do justice to the subject matter (though hundreds of pages is by no means necessary). However, if the book does what it aims to do, then I'll support. Like I said, the content is quite good, so if it meets it's goals, then by all means, feature it! – Mike.lifeguard  &#124; talk 03:39, 10 December 2007 (UTC)


 * [[Image:Symbol support vote.svg|15px]] Support Mike is right to assert that this book is short, however wiki is not paper and should not be constrained by the typical page-length requirements of a typical book. Good short books deserve just as much recognition as good long books. Sometimes, I think, it can be more impressive to be focused and concise, especially considering the wiki tendency to grow endlessly and, sometimes, shapelessly. --Whiteknight (Page) (Talk) 14:53, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
 * [[Image:Symbol comment vote.svg|15px]] Comment If the sections are as good as this, then it would be an excellent textbook, suitable for even college studies. But if they are like this, then it does not deserve featured status. Parts of it should probably be expanded. Also, I wonder if people don't want to expand the Missionaries section because it might offend somebody if they expand it to the excellent political coverage I've found. Thanks, Laleena (talk) 12:56, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
 * I have expanded on the Missionaries section, and can expand on other small chapters if more people express a need for it, but I really would like to keep the book in its concise state. Helpfulstuffnz (talk) 23:15, 20 December 2007 (UTC)


 * [[Image:Symbol support vote.svg|15px]] Support Of course, now it's been expanded, I'll vote pro. Laleena (talk) 01:29, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
 * [[Image:Symbol support vote.svg|15px]] Support Looks like a useful book - not all books have to be postgraduate level. Regards, &mdash;Cel es tianpower háblame 21:50, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

Done Good levels of support, this book is now featured. We can always continue to improve on this book, to help resolve any additional concerns. --Whiteknight (Page) (Talk) 16:49, 2 January 2008 (UTC)