User talk:Yashpalgoyal1304

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-- Jules (Mrjulesd) 12:20, 1 April 2021 (UTC)

It would have been much easier to grasp if there was one document containing all the syntaxes, and other document containing all the followed/preferred styles (or if needed to be as separate pages, then better in the book's format - like previous chapter, next chapter etc). Currently, it seems to be following the encyclopedia's motto - let the reader get lost in wonderland and hit new things - which doesnt help much when trying to learn things from ground zero.
 * hi, thanks for reaching out.
 * there was one thing li'l bit of rant i had to say, wikipedia's (the whole of it - wikipedia, wikibooks etc - i am treating all these as one) format/markup language and editors are wayyy too scattered and fragmented.
 * there are 4 types of editors i have hit so far.
 * Sometimes i am shown the live preview (like i am typing here), sometimes i see a "see preview" button, and sometimes the preview button is only available in the dialog when i click publish page.
 * Sometimes my input is auto-signed immediately, sometimes bot does it, sometimes i have to do it on my own. And sometimes it is mentioned that sign ur input, and other times it is not, but i still have to do it manually.
 * some buttons in the visual editor are inaccessible and no reason is mentioned why? like this one: 🚫 Remove Ctrl+\, Ctrl+M
 * Sometimes the text for link is given by space, sometimes it requires using vertical line
 * Sometimes when i put - a suggestion shows up, other times not.
 * There is no quick access to the cheatsheet etc. I always have to search for them, and they led me to dont know how many different pages - there is cheatsheet, style sheet, preferred style sheet, how to sign sheet etc etc etc.
 * i mean, it's TOTALLY chaotic in my opinion. Not at all organised. I dont see how it is beginner friendly. Yashpalgoyal1304 (discuss • contribs) 18:08, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
 * u dont need to reply, and i might have been a bit over dramatic. As far as i can see, the biggest hurdle in editing is the last point - the fragmented documentation, at number 2 in my short exposure will come the inconsistent editors. Yashpalgoyal1304 (discuss • contribs) 18:17, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
 * the other most painful papercut is in the wiki's viewer. which is why there is not button (gen # or $ on other sites) on section headings to help pick their #id - currently, to get the link of a section, one needs to scroll allllll the way to the "contents" at the top which is very inconvenient.
 * Further things would be option of moving the contents table in the sidebars, and cleanup of sidebars - but these issues are still bearable. Yashpalgoyal1304 (discuss • contribs) 18:24, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Leaderboard (discuss • contribs) 18:42, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Well it's not easy really. Even for old-hands like myself it can be a pain. But be aware of Reading room where you can ask questions. We don't have a good cheat sheet here really, but take a look at w:WP:CHEATSHEET for the absolute basics. Although we have quite a number of help pages (see Help:Contents), the help pages at English Wikipedia are immense, and a good place to look if you can't find something here. -- Jules (Mrjulesd) 20:57, 1 April 2021 (UTC)