User talk:Terence Kearey

Welcome to Wikibooks, Terence Kearey!  First steps tutorial Wikibooks is for freely-licensed collaboratively-developed textbooks. You don't need technical skills in order to contribute here. Be bold contributing and assume good faith about the intentions of others. Remember, this is a wiki, so you're allowed to change just about anything, and changes can be made easily. Come introduce yourself to everyone, and let us know what interests you.

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I saw your comment at File:Nuvola apps chat.png‎ which is not quite the correct place for such a discussion. I will move your comments to the our reading room which is, I think, the best place for it. Thenub314 (talk) 11:34, 15 July 2010 (UTC)


 * I have replied to the comment mentioned above there. Thanks for donating your work. --Panic (talk) 12:01, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

Donations
Reading over your donations, it seems like they are not truly textbooks in the sense that we've come to know them at Wikibooks. Are they collections of works now in the public domain due to age? If so, then the license they are under here at Wikibooks would actually be more restrictive than necessary. Public domain source documents would actually be a perfect fit at our sister project, Wikisource. Check out what Wikisource includes and see if it would work for your content. If you decide that Wikisource is a better fit and upload your work there instead, please let me know so I can remove it from here to keep the value of the pages from being reduced on Google due to duplication. Thanks. – Adrignola talk 12:12, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

Dear Adrignola, I did take your advise but The Demise of an Irish Clan was rejected. I did not get as far as uploading the other two parts of the trilogy. To be honest I really do not know where to go. My invitation to sample my website was totally misrepresented as self promotion. I have tried to explain the true nature of the work - tracing a name, place and outcome - to a family, which happens to be my own. It is unfortunate that my computer needed rejigging. When it was serviced all my references were removed. Frankly I would rather stick with you simply because you are receptive and sympathetic to my work. The only book commercially sold was The Collins of Chard and that was self printed and bound, sold at Weald and Downland Museum. Terence


 * That is unfortunate. I do notice that The Demise of an Irish Clan is still around at Wikisource.  My advice if you wish to use Wikibooks is that some things about your books will have to be worked on if they are to survive at Wikibooks.  Copying and pasting them verbatim with no further alterations won't be acceptable.  They must be of textbook material, in that they instruct the reader on a topic, such as the history of a country or group.  If you create pages that simply appear to be a collection of historical anecdotes, someone else may come across and try to push them to Wikisource again.  It will be very important to examine What is Wikibooks? and ensure that anything you place here meets the criteria.  In particular, if these accounts are original research or simply not verifiable, then you could expect the community at Wikibooks to try to push them to Wikiversity, where original research is permitted.  – Adrignola talk 12:08, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

Dear Adrignola, Thank you for your clear appreciation and guidance. As explained The Demise is a brief exposition on possible pre Christian and Early Irish Clan history setting out where the family name came from - the place in Ireland and persons involved. The rest is conjecture [gleened from various historical writings] to give structure, introduction to emigration, and English beginnings. I believe that my work is original and it is based on facts, as far as ancient writings are true and historians reliable. Important Persons and Places are verifiable. Please, would you kindly introduce The Demise to Wikiversity..., and can I tack on some source material, or should I reload the whole again including a source profile at the end. I have seen Pillbox, Shako, and Cap [Rifle Corps] - the third part of the trilogy but cannot remember where. Horse, Tractor, and Van [Victorian Bayswater]can be uploaded if you believe it sensible to plough on. Thank you again for your guidance. TerenceTerence Kearey (talk) 21:53, 12 August 2010 (UTC)


 * You should be able to log in to Wikiversity with the same account information as you use at Wikibooks and there should be no problem with contributing there immediately. You can even decide to have some of your material there and some here, depending on how much conjecture is involved.  If you need me to undelete anything you uploaded to Wikibooks and move it into your user space so that you can upload it to Wikiversity instead, please let me know.  – Adrignola talk 22:33, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

Dear Adrignola, Again I thank you. I have uploaded the intro and first chapter of The Demise to Wikiversity, with added edits. I shall be including acknowledgements after the final chapter. Yes, please delete what you have - for I have made changes. I will keep all the parts of the trilogy together but will take up your offer for The Collins of Chard and Tatworth Village. I shall keep you informed as I go along. Many thanks Terence Kearey (talk) 23:06, 13 August 2010 (UTC)

Dear Adrignola, I have now uploaded all seven chapters. So far so good. Starting on the next book. Thank you for your contribution its nice to know you are there. --Terence Kearey (talk) 13:34, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

Dear Adrignola, The second book has now been uploaded, I am now starting on the last of the trilogy.--Terence Kearey (talk) 13:34, 22 August 2010 (UTC)


 * Excellent. Hopefully they will be found useful by readers. – Adrignola talk 15:05, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

Tatworth Village
Hi, I've structured your chapters into a book... you'll find the pages at Tatworth Village, Tatworth Village/Chapter I, etc. If you add new chapters, follow the same naming convention and the pages will automatically be linked into a single book. QU TalkQu 09:27, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

Hello Agrignola, Nice to see your name back. I hope the pages go down well. Terence

Good morning. Thank you for your corrections, they are much appreciated. Terence

Dear Adrignola, That concluded Tatworth Village. May I now upload The National Government years, 1931 - 1939, in Metroland, entitled 'Suburb Garden Town'.--Terence Kearey (talk) 12:59, 3 September 2010 (UTC)


 * I suppose so. If anyone has any objections once they see the content, they could speak up then.  Otherwise you're free to do so. – Adrignola talk 13:17, 3 September 2010 (UTC)

Dear Adrignola, Harrypotter suggests 'The Collins of Chard' may suit Wikibooks rather than Wikiversity. Do you believe that to be so, and hopefully, if you do, can you transfer those pages? I did ask if he could arrange that - I am not sure whether that was possible. Sorry for imposing for I know you have quite enough to do as it is. Thank you for you are already doing especially the suggestion for title/section change. Regards--Terence Kearey (talk) 16:58, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

Thank you for substituting scrumping by 'fair game' not quite as literal but definately literary. I am very intersted in the results of the feedback I found trying to maintain wikibooks editortials time consuming and not always possible. Still, I am trying!--Terence Kearey (talk) 10:19, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

Dear Adrignola, I have uploaded the final page to Suburban Hearth and Home. As you will have seen the final pages are about work as a lithographic artist. I did think about continuing the series [Hearth and Home] giving a picture of a lithographic artists life - environment, equipment, materials and skills. With that in mind I opened Wikipedia to see what was written there. I was not impressed. I considered editing but found there was too much needed. Should I fit something into the existing space on Wikipedia - number of words in the panels, and present it for submission or do a complete rewrite under a suitable title and let you decide... in that instance it would contain more words. As mentioned, I served my time, worked as a jouneyman, and lectured at The London College of Printing for ten years full-time - on the subject.--Terence Kearey (talk) 11:22, 23 September 2010 (UTC)


 * There is less pressure on a writer at Wikibooks. If you were to write at Wikipedia, references for everything you add would be essential and they won't accept any personal experience as sufficient to back up words you add.  Wikibooks is not such a stickler.  There is a Wikibooks template at Wikpedia, so you would be able to link to a relevant page here from Wikipedia. – Adrignola talk 12:05, 23 September 2010 (UTC)

Thank you, I would much rather stick with you and Wikibooks. I am writing 'The Recognition and Appreciation of Prints' as a prelude to Lithographic Drawing... that quite enough pressure to be getting on with!--Terence Kearey (talk) 21:27, 23 September 2010 (UTC)

Dear Adrignola, The recognition of prints is now complete and uploaded. Before plouging on with Lithographic Drawing I would like to edit Rifle Corps The Volunteers - to remove personal referrence - get it nearer to wikipedia/wikibooks principles. It will not be possible to remove all traces but can take a more general view. Please would you kindly remove Rifle Corps from my User page. Best wishes,--Terence Kearey (talk) 13:23, 26 September 2010 (UTC)


 * It's been removed per your request. – Adrignola talk 14:34, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

Dear Adrignola, Thank you. The Kensington Rifles now complete. I shall return to Lithographic Drawing. Are there any other outstanding corrections/edits to make. I am not sure quite about the state of The Collins of Chard. Perhaps this should be changed in keeping to wiki principles - to shy away from personal attachments.--Terence Kearey (talk) 14:04, 27 September 2010 (UTC)


 * Yes, you should refrain from personal anecdotes or attachments. The rule of thumb is that if it's not conducive to collaborative editing, you're just using Wikibooks as your personal web host. – Adrignola talk 15:01, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

Dear Adrignola, OK, I do get the point. Its a matter of self discipline. As you have said, If its not acceptrable it will be deleted!--Terence Kearey (talk) 10:01, 28 September 2010 (UTC)

Dear Adrignola, I shall split Recognition of Prints into 'methods' and 'appreciation'. I should like to represent Victorian Bayswater - to conform. In fact I shall keep going until they all fit! Sorry for the extra work, I am grateful for your efforts--Terence Kearey (talk) 10:06, 30 September 2010 (UTC)


 * When you decide to make further edits, I'd appreciate you not removing book title or BookCat from the pages and replacing them with nonexistent templates that provide no formatting or category whatsoever. Thanks. – Adrignola talk 12:30, 30 September 2010 (UTC)


 * OK, sorry, I shall try to remember--Terence Kearey (talk) 12:56, 30 September 2010 (UTC)

Dear Adrignola, I an uploading Victorian Bayswater as 'Victoriana schooldays' first section 'Starting at the gangplank'. I believe the title and section will stand a better chance - re hits. I do hope The Kensington Rifles stands alone. Regards--Terence Kearey (talk) 09:59, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

Dear Adrignola, Victoriana Schooldays finished. Starting to get together: Timber Framing, Infilling, Wood panelling and development of single chairs.--Terence Kearey (talk) 12:11, 3 October 2010 (UTC)

October 2010
We welcome and appreciate your contributions, but some of your recent actions differ from the way things are normally done at Wikibooks. Using Wikibooks can be helpful in learning more about conventions. I've noticed that you have been adding your signature to some of your book contributions. This is a simple mistake to make and is easy to correct. For future reference, the need to associate edits with users is taken care of by an page's edit history. Therefore, you should use your signature only when contributing to talk pages, the reading room, or other such discussion pages. Again, thank you for contributing, and enjoy your Wikibooks experience! Thank you. Kayau (talk &#124; email &#124; contribs) 12:51, 3 October 2010 (UTC)

Thank you Kayau--Terence Kearey (talk) 12:53, 4 October 2010 (UTC)

Dear Adrignola, Sorry to be a total pain but I cannot recategorize North Harrow/Local History. It should be under Districts of London--Terence Kearey (talk) 17:15, 11 October 2010 (UTC)


 * Are you referring to something at another website? It might explain why your contributions often try to use templates that do not exist here.  I see nothing like North Harrow/Local History in your contributions here.  Additionally, only the book's root page will be categorized in a category other than the book's own.  If you are referencing a page here at Wikibooks, you'll want to place a link to it here on your talk page so I know which one you are referring to. – Adrignola talk 18:13, 11 October 2010 (UTC)

Dear Adrignola, You are absolutely right. I imagined that there was and is an automatic link between all Wiki items and ports. I was looking at Wikipedia. Please make a link Suburban Hearth and Home

I am not sure where I am upto with The Demise of an Irish Clan. I have gone over it carefully to remove any reference to personalities. I do not mind having another go if that does not annoy. The English Chair is coming along - hopefully tomorrow will see it completed.--Terence Kearey (talk) 22:13, 11 October 2010 (UTC)

Sorry to keep adding. Keeping on the same tack would it be right and sensible to have all my work here. It would make it so much easier. Now I see, using my brain, that I have work with Wikisource as well as Wikipedia. If that is OK with you do I resubmit or can you transfer... bit of a pain really. Now you will appreciate how screwed up I've been--Terence Kearey (talk) 22:41, 11 October 2010 (UTC)


 * If the content is acceptable at Wikisource and they don't have a problem with it there, it should not be copied or moved here. That would create a duplication of content.  We have multiple projects within the Wikimedia family to serve different roles.  If you plan to contribute heavily, it's a necessary fact of life that you must contribute to Wikipedia, Wikisource, Wiktionary, and Wikibooks in turn. – Adrignola talk 00:01, 12 October 2010 (UTC)

Hi, OK--Terence Kearey (talk) 09:42, 12 October 2010 (UTC)

Dear Adrignola, The next page underway 'Hedges and Hurdles in England' compliments the others.--Terence Kearey (talk) 13:25, 13 October 2010 (UTC)

Dear Adrigcola, A guide to lettering, form and spacing underway.--Terence Kearey (talk) 22:27, 28 October 2010 (UTC)


 * Hopefully you do check out our subjects to see if any existing books can benefit from your content, correct? – Adrignola talk 22:32, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

Thank you. Yes I did and came to a conclusion that there were a few gaps. May I upload what I have done if you feel that can be better placed thats fine. Most, if not all the pages are American that is not only different in that it uses Imperial measurements but the terminology is different. However, the setting out of a page of type remains the same - uses the same rules.--Terence Kearey (talk) 13:17, 30 October 2010 (UTC)


 * I will probably take a look not too long from now at what you've uploaded to see if anything would be helpful to an existing book in terms of merging the two together. I've been pretty active in doing that up to now.  Though I'm American, I do wish the US would move to metric. – Adrignola talk 13:25, 30 October 2010 (UTC)

We moved to metric many years ago and still many builders and tradespeople use the old measuring form. I can picture a bricks width of four inches rather than 100mm. I shall get on and upload what I've got. Thanks for what you are doing.--Terence Kearey (talk) 21:36, 30 October 2010 (UTC)

Dear Adrignola, Artwork Design for Print finished I hope to upload tonight if possible.--Terence Kearey (talk) 22:43, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

Dear Adrignola, Just about to start on a new page, 'Watercolour Painting'Category Visual Arts.--Terence Kearey (talk) 23:22, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

Dear Adrignola, I have almost finished another section to tack on to Cultural Changes in England. It is entitled 'Abuse, Unfounded Accusations' connected to the UK Governments 'Go-orders' to the Police. Is it OK to do this - tack it on, and what is the correct form to enable me to do this; should I perhaps approach another Wiki site.--Terence Kearey (talk) 00:53, 7 January 2011 (UTC)


 * You can create subpages of the main page, much as seen with Victoriana Schooldays. – Adrignola talk 00:58, 7 January 2011 (UTC)

Dear Adrignola, Please may I add another chapter entitled From Francis to Fasebook, a look at the youth service of England through the ages, to Cultural Changes in England.--Terence Kearey (discuss • contribs) 15:11, 20 January 2011 (UTC)


 * Sure. You need only add a link to Cultural Shifts in England in the same format as the others. – Adrignola discuss 15:30, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

Dear Adrignola, Chapter VIII 'Age related illnesses' ready for launching. It is mainly to do with Vascular Dementia, a viewpoint by a carer - aged population living longer needing care. --Terence Kearey (discuss • contribs) 23:10, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

I do apologise if my alterations are not suitable. Please change the chapter heading of chapter VIII to 'A Carer copes' only if you believe that is a better choice - suits your purposes.--Terence Kearey (discuss • contribs) 14:26, 5 February 2011 (UTC)


 * Should that be "A career copes"? I've moved the page and updated the contents at Cultural Shifts in England. – Adrignola discuss 15:07, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

Dear Adrignola, you had me going there! I had to open up a national care service to make sure of the spelling. My old Oxford dictionary doesnt have the word - its too modern. No, I do mean Carer - as in, 'looking after'. Thanks T--Terence Kearey (discuss • contribs) 22:59, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

Chapter 8. Human sexual Evolution
Chapter 8 Human Sexual Evolution

Darwin’s theory proposed the principle of natural selection, sexual preferences that pass on chosen characteristics. This selective process takes account of social, biological, and cultural structures; analysing fitness, wellness, strength, adaptability, and mental agility. Survival of the fittest for humans is about babies where they are born, to whom, where and when. Anthropology - the study of man as an animal, deals with the historical measurement of mind and body – size, shape, motor skills and cognitive factors. Secular trends: refers to generational changes within a restricted land space, source population, culture and particular physical preferences, i.e. sports.

Trends show man has grown taller, fatter and older on a varied diet including milk, warding off sickness and death by better general health care with a resistance to common infectious diseases. Couples are marrying later, the divorce rate is slowly creeping up for first and multiple marriages, the birth rate is dropping, and women have babies later to older men. The numbers of homosexuals ‘coming out’ has increased. It is a fact that every human bears a different genetic code making each unique. Children inherit characteristics which are carried on chromosomes that transmit genetic information (DNA).

Previous views of stereotypical men and women no longer remain true. Men are generally taller, heavier and stronger but die sooner although the gap is narrowing. Women are improving their sporting prowess taking a greater interest in all games previously the preserves of men. Most jobs, except when requiring greater strength are available and competed for by women, although heavy engineering still holds a preponderance of men.

Men are physically dominant suggests strength can dictate. There has been and continues to be a preponderance of men controlling and leading, business and the arts. Women, bearing, protecting, and nurturing children, need security. Time and energy supporting children limits competitive activity. Competition stimulates competitiveness which drives forward new advances. Strong management techniques, limited unemployment, fear of being laid off, bonuses and good projections all contribute to push forward progress.

Over the millennium human survival needed adaption – manipulation of the flora and fauna. Wandering tribes and animal herders stopped their seasonal migrations. Stability aided farmers growing cereals and rice to provide a staple diet. Populations have turned to factory production and industrialization. Competition between all societies pushes forward knowledge, experimentation and development. Generally profit has become the password to successful advancement.

The advancement in man’s growth, especially since the world wars pushed forward advancement of women’s rights and freedom’s, includes social, cultural and physical preferences. Education is likely to give a greater understanding of bodily functions and sexual preferences. However, with knowledge and evolutionary progress there remains ignorance about self induced and partner induced sexual activity.

Children are interested in their bodies, they play and experiment. Penises become erect girls long for breasts and pubic hair. In teenage years play continues with greater sexual interest. Masturbation, a part hidden subject - discussed mainly amongst same sex groups, is practiced by the majority. It is believed early education stimulates sexual interest before responsible behaviour. Sexual bodily functions - the cognitive act, has been scientifically examined… however, conceptual, emotional and willingness are not so easily expressed. Social morality and personal embarrassment still restricts freedom even though books are read, lessons given and opinions questioned.

Sexual intercourse has evolved by evolutionary processes stimulated by a natural instinct to procreate. Humans are joined by mutual attraction, conceptual agreement and opportunity - agreement for physical contact has become a social necessity. Procreation - love making, is usually initiated by words of endearment and affection. Human intercourse usually takes place lying down facing each other. It is the male which initiates having each function reflected. The actions, both before and after undressing, defined as foreplay, it is foreplay which stimulates and heightens the experience an act which uses both nature and design.

This is a prelude to further mutual touching, eye contact, stroking and caressing especially by the male to breasts and vulva. Passionate kissing confirms mutual desire. The results are mutual arousal leading to penis erection, and vagina and uterine secretion. It is the female’s prerogative to either accept or reject penetration. This acceptance plus greater understanding of foreplay are the areas which have evolved. From penetration to ejaculation can take seconds whilst foreplay can last from minutes to hours.

Chapter 8. Human sexual Evolution
Human Sexual Evolution

Darwin’s theory proposed the principle of natural selection, sexual preferences that pass on chosen characteristics. This selective process takes account of social, biological, and cultural structures; analysing fitness, wellness, strength, adaptability, and mental agility. Survival of the fittest for humans is about babies where they are born, to whom, where and when. Anthropology - the study of man as an animal, deals with the historical measurement of mind and body – size, shape, motor skills and cognitive factors. Secular trends: refers to generational changes within a restricted land space, source population, culture and particular physical preferences, i.e. sports.

Trends show man has grown taller, fatter and older on a varied diet including milk, warding off sickness and death by better general health care with a resistance to common infectious diseases. Couples are marrying later, the divorce rate is slowly creeping up for first and multiple marriages, the birth rate is dropping, and women have babies later to older men. The numbers of homosexuals ‘coming out’ has increased. It is a fact that every human bears a different genetic code making each unique. Children inherit characteristics which are carried on chromosomes that transmit genetic information (DNA).

Previous views of stereotypical men and women no longer remain true. Men are generally taller, heavier and stronger but die sooner although the gap is narrowing. Women are improving their sporting prowess taking a greater interest in all games previously the preserves of men. Most jobs, except when requiring greater strength are available and competed for by women, although heavy engineering still holds a preponderance of men.

Men are physically dominant suggests strength can dictate. There has been and continues to be a preponderance of men controlling and leading, business and the arts. Women, bearing, protecting, and nurturing children, need security. Time and energy supporting children limits competitive activity. Competition stimulates competitiveness which drives forward new advances. Strong management techniques, limited unemployment, fear of being laid off, bonuses and good projections all contribute to push forward progress.

Over the millennium human survival needed adaption – manipulation of the flora and fauna. Wandering tribes and animal herders stopped their seasonal migrations. Stability aided farmers growing cereals and rice to provide a staple diet. Populations have turned to factory production and industrialization. Competition between all societies pushes forward knowledge, experimentation and development. Generally profit has become the password to successful advancement.

The advancement in man’s growth, especially since the world wars pushed forward advancement of women’s rights and freedom’s, includes social, cultural and physical preferences. Education is likely to give a greater understanding of bodily functions and sexual preferences. However, with knowledge and evolutionary progress there remains ignorance about self induced and partner induced sexual activity.

Children are interested in their bodies, they play and experiment. Penises become erect girls long for breasts and pubic hair. In teenage years play continues with greater sexual interest. Masturbation, a part hidden subject - discussed mainly amongst same sex groups, is practiced by the majority. It is believed early education stimulates sexual interest before responsible behaviour. Sexual bodily functions - the cognitive act, has been scientifically examined… however, conceptual, emotional and willingness are not so easily expressed. Social morality and personal embarrassment still restricts freedom even though books are read, lessons given and opinions questioned.

Sexual intercourse has evolved by evolutionary processes stimulated by a natural instinct to procreate. Humans are joined by mutual attraction, conceptual agreement and opportunity - agreement for physical contact has become a social necessity. Procreation - love making, is usually initiated by words of endearment and affection. Human intercourse usually takes place lying down facing each other. It is the male which initiates having each function reflected. The actions, both before and after undressing, defined as foreplay, it is foreplay which stimulates and heightens the experience an act which uses both nature and design.

This is a prelude to further mutual touching, eye contact, stroking and caressing especially by the male to breasts and vulva. Passionate kissing confirms mutual desire. The results are mutual arousal leading to penis erection, and vagina and uterine secretion. It is the female’s prerogative to either accept or reject penetration. This acceptance plus greater understanding of foreplay are the areas which have evolved. From penetration to ejaculation can take seconds whilst foreplay can last from minutes to hours.--Terence Kearey (discuss • contribs) 12:49, 16 October 2013 (UTC)