User talk:Storeye

=Catullus=


 * Forgive me for taking the liberty to create your talkpage but I noticed your recent contribution to The Poetry of Gaius Valerius Catullus project that I'm currently working on. Thank you for your input! I appreciate you respecting my layout scheme as well as tagging the poem's status, presumably from my user page? :D Anyway, if you'd like to become a more permanent part of the project leave a message on my talk page.

I also noticed you are studying the Oxford Latin course? I am too, in conjunction with Cambridge as you can get a more rounded feel for the language. And I'm also learning Ancient Greek from Athenaze. Cool eh? Anyway, I'll wrap up now and I hope to hear from you!

Many thanks, Alakazam38 19:08, 10 May 2007 (UTC)


 * More contributions! 43 and 11. Good stuff there, I hope you don't mind me re-arranging it so I can keep my standard universal layout. Your points are there tho, just not where you put them :P.

Can I consider you officially involved now? That is 3 or 4 poems you've added. Thanks again. Alakazam38 12:06, 12 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Sorry about making a mess of the layout, I'm trying to keep it standard but I keep on forgetting various things. :D I'm honoured that you think me officially involved as most of the stuff I've added I've just copied and pasted from somewhere. On that note, I notice that wikisource has extra poems that wouldn't be hard to write notes for. Is there such a thing as an inter-project collaboration on a given topic? I've never heard of it, but i think it could be useful as alot of the projets duplicate information.


 * I was also wondering if you ever work on the latin or ancient greek parts of this project. I posed some questions about teaching styles on wikiversity a while ago but no-one replied. Most of the pages are lists of grammer rules and explanations without much connection between the exercises. This is unusual for text books, which usually have stories and related history (such as Dicaeopolis in Athenaze, Quintus in Oxford, and Caecilius in Cambridge). If this doesn't interest you then just ignore it, but I was wondering what you would think about doing something similar with wikibooks Latin or maybe even Catullus? Thanks again for inviting me to get involved! Storeye 08:33, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

The language work I'm doing is cross-linking vocab. help to Wiktionary, See The Poetry of Gaius Valerius Catullus/3, The Poetry of Gaius Valerius Catullus/51 for examples of model, comprehensive texts. I'm glad someone else is here tbh, its quite a lot of work for one person! I see your online right now :D Good stuff on the meter too. Alakazam38 11:38, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
 * I'd like to keep this WikiBook as a separate entity, although you can of course copy text from Wsource to save you time. The difference is, we're duplicating material for the better.
 * I've featured you in the project news on my user page. :D


 * I saw the cross linked vocab. Good idea! I'm not sure I understand what you're saying about duplicated material, but I think you're saying you don't want this wikibook to nothing more than copied from other projects? I'm online, but not for long. I had an edit conflict with the metre so I hope I didn't delete any of your work. I didn't check if anyone was editing it before I started. *oops* And I've only included English examples, I don't have any certified scansions of latin and I don't trust my own work. I thought the English might be useful to see how it can be applied in a way that sounds natural, though. I've also heard of a metre that Catullus used that was called "limping iambic" or something? It went something like v-|v-|v-|v-|-v and had an emphasis on the last -v but i can't find any sources for it. Do you know what I'm talking about? Storeye 11:53, 13 May 2007 (UTC)


 * (wow, second edit conflict in as many minutes!)


 * Thanks for the project news! :D Storeye 11:53, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

Our Project

 * What I mean is that I know that we're basically copying material from Wsource, but because the author has been dead for over a 100 years it's free reign stuff. What makes it our material is our comprehensive annotations. Therefore, we will have a lot of duplicated material but much more original material that we can call our own.
 * If you put a when you start editing, that way, if I come across it, I'll know you're there.
 * Yes Catullus does use Limping Iambics, its in Poem 8. I'll write up the meter when I get a chance. I'm also thinking of adding some other appendices, perhaps a glossary and some credit to us too :P. Alakazam38 12:26, 13 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Ah right. I understand. And I'll try to remember to use the thing on pages. Great work on the metre! :D Storeye 11:16, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

New Team Member!
Just thought I'd tell you that a new member, User:Puellamala has joined our project. I hope us three, and any others will be able to collaborate to make this book the best we can! Alakazam38 19:07, 13 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Yay! This is becoming quite a collaboration! Storeye 11:09, 14 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Do you use Instant Messenger of any kind? If so, what is your addy? :D
 * Good work! I've added a couple of extra notes to Poem 93 and it's all done! :D Alakazam38 17:12, 14 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Write a bit about yourself in the authors section! :D Alakazam38 19:09, 14 May 2007 (UTC)


 * I don't use any inatnt messanger, sorry. But this talk page is proving effective. Thanks for your work on 93! Storeye 10:37, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

Al ak  az  am  |  Talk 16:46, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Good work on 50! The layout is practically spot on! :D I made a template for everyone's benefit. Check it out here.


 * Thanks! that's really useful! I've been copying the layout from another poem and changing the content each time. I like the new signature by the way. Storeye 06:39, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

Preface

 * I like very much what you've added to the preface, though I dont like that picture of Catullus - simply because he wouldnt have looked like that. He was Roman, and Romans shaved. So I've removed it. The preface will be one of those things that will have to be redrafted again and again because it is the first thing people will read. So its got to be good. But you've provided some excellent starting material. I especially like your image you put in, though I'd like to find out how to position such things. So thanks for that input, but be prepared to see it chopped and changed eventually. We've got a good basis to work on and that's a start.


 * Don't forget to credit yourself in the authors section.


 * Yep, any partcular things about syntax or language worthy of notice goes in the COTT. Any scansion worthy of attention can have it's own note. See Poem 94 for an example. I do like my signature too :P

 Al ak  az  am  |  Talk  20:23, 17 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Cheers. With images, I generally copy and paste the code from somewhere else and add in the image name and subtitle. Most of the things are somewhat self explanitory and can be fiddled around with using the preview button till they look right. The image of Catullus was the only one I could find on Commons, hopefully something else will appear soon.


 * I'll get round to writing about myself eventually...


 * Thanks for the grammar answer. I noticed tat on a certain site, there were scanned versions of Catullus's poems. Do you know if scansion is covered by copyright or not? Thanks Storeye 09:03, 18 May 2007 (UTC)


 * No scansion is nothing to do with copyright. It's a poetic meter and once a poem is tagged as it, then that's it, it can only have one form, due to the rules. The Latin scansion stays the same whoever tranlates it. If something is ambiguous it is most likely 'syllaba anceps'' at the end of meters.

 Al ak  az  am  |  Talk  10:35, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

New Team Member!
 Al ak  az  am  |  Talk  11:40, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
 * I'd like to inform you that User:Medellia has just joined this project. He is a Latin language specialist, as well as learning at least 5 other languages. His main work will be on "WikTionarying" vocab.