User talk:SoylentGreen

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Things are probably similar over at, but I figured I'd drop you this little welcome nonetheless. Happy editing! --Swift (talk) 07:03, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the heartly welcome. And yes, I think I will get around here ;-) --SoylentGreen (talk) 07:58, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

Translations
Hi SoylentGreen,

Regarding Blender 3D: Noob to Pro/Coordinate Spaces in Blender, I noticed the German templates and figured that this might be a translation of a German Wikibook module. Please keep in mind that translations are also derivative works and need to give attribution to past authors. I'm not sure if we can transwiki between the language versions, but maintaining the edit history would make it easier to fulfill the requirements of the GFDL. --Swift (talk) 16:24, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Yeah, it is a german wikibook module, I will give credit where credit is due (i.e. I wrote most parts myself). I've just checked it, I wrote everthing besides some spelling corrections, so I think I may omit any credits. Thank you for watching. Regards --SoylentGreen (talk) 18:08, 20 February 2009 (UTC)


 * OK, great! Nice work, by the way. --Swift (talk) 22:39, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

Blender Noob to Pro cleanup notice
I hope you don't mind, but I moved the cleanup notice to the top of the book. This was mainly to keep other editors from overlooking it and to avoid accusations that the cleanup was done without letting everyone know. --Null Point (talk) 21:37, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

Blender 3D: Noob to Pro -- Coordinate Spaces in Blender
I am the person who edited the page named in the header, correcting the grammar and axis labels. I have now created an account on this site with the intention of joining the editing team for the book.

Now that I have an account, I want to point out to you that the axis labels on this page truly are incorrect. Not only does your identification of the Y and Z axes disagree with what I was taught in school, but it directly contradicts the information in Blender 3D: Noob to Pro -- Understanding Coordinates. I suggest you discuss the subject with the author of that page or a member of the editing team at your next opportunity. Consistency is vital, after all.

I look forward to working with you and the others on the book, and learning to use Blender while I'm at it :P

As to your English language skills, I'll work with you to best represent your intended meaning with any edits I make...my German isn't what it used to be either.

Vielen danke, Robstafarian (talk) 18:38, 8 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Welcome here, and great that you will work at Noob to Pro! I've worked since 2005 continuously at the German manual for Blender, and contributed also to the English manual. Thank you for pointing me to the "Understanding coordinates" page, which is basically confusing at best. I know that other programs have their axes orientated some other ways, but what I've written on the page is correct for Blender. --SoylentGreen (talk) 19:57, 8 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Interesting, I would never have guessed that Blender labels the axes differently than everything else with which I've come in contact. Please post on my talk page with any tips you can give me for working on this site.  I am new to non-anonymous wiki editing and don't even know how to introduce myself to the team.--Robstafarian (talk) 20:32, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

RE: Image Depository
Hello, SoylentGreen. Hope your doing okay
 * The Image Depository is still very much incomplete, as is obvious to see. My idea was to categorize these images into columns along the page, each column with a subject (e.g. Renders, screenshots, buttons/menus, et cetera.) which would make it much easier to skim and find an image. Borders could also be added on images, such as green to mean attribution required, and gray means no attribution. It would be very useful, I believe, because it would be a way to very easily have someone who is editing illustrate their point quickly by just grabbing an image (such as one of the default Blender screen, and then one of the initial "box") and throwing it in their tutorial. It would also help to clarify what is meant by "default", as some people's default has been set to clear, and some people have the Blender default.You see where I'm going with this. Do you believe this is a useful concept, or unnecessary?
 * --Bullercruz1 (talk) 22:32, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Good morning! (at least here it is in Germany :-) ). I think it is a good idea, as long as the images are uploaded on commons.wikimedia. The only point is, it may be quite much work and it is questionable whether it is worth the effort. I have uploaded about 500 images to commons in the four years that I'm writing on the German manual now (maybe even more). Though I know which Images I have made, I rarely use an image on more than one page - but it may be different for me because in a manual you show on each page different settings.
 * To summon: a good idea and may be useful, but I don't know whether it is worth the effort. Regards --SoylentGreen (talk) 07:34, 21 March 2009 (UTC)


 * If I may cast in my two cents: For the Commons images, you guys could always just set this portfolio up on Commons. Pages in the main namespace are meant as galleries.
 * As this may have something to do with the idea I put forward on Bullercruz1's talk page, I think I should clarify that my thoughts were restricted to the Wikibooks specific files. --Swift (talk) 15:52, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

Rugs
The page has no useful content and hasn't been updated for over a year. --SoylentGreen (talk) 10:52, 20 March 2009 (UTC)


 * It seems like a potentially useful stub. Is this redundant (like the particle pages)? Would it possibly be useful to future contributors to other books? --Swift (talk) 09:52, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I think that we should be realistic about the potential of this page:
 * If anybody is going to write a tutorial, he will not invest (or only in the rarest cases) in a page, he hasn't started and has probably no interest in.
 * The topic of this page is already covered in the book.
 * We "fight" with many stubs in the book. If this book contains many stubs it's very difficult for any reader to find the little well formatted and well written content we have.
 * In theory we could move all stub pages somewhere where they don't hurt, but this will lead to 50 pages content and 100 pages stubs. --SoylentGreen (talk) 15:34, 24 March 2009 (UTC)


 * The above section was moved from Talk:Blender 3D: Noob to Pro/Rug for the sake of the reply below.
 * While we have lots of abandoned pages, we tend to keep them around anyway. Deleting pages doesn't save us any server space and should they not save much work, they may be an incentive for a knowledgeable user who comes along to join the project. However, as the topic is already covered, the stub servers no real purpose.
 * As for "fighting" stubs, I feel your pain. The Japanese book I've been involved with (though not much in the last few weeks) suffered from the same and organising the available content is a huge task. Stubs needn't be renamed to be taken out of view. Japanese/Contents, for example, lists all the available content &mdash; not (specifically) for readers, but contributors who may be looking for a page to build on. The modules listed there are incomplete and don't fit in the grand scheme of the book, but may save some work.
 * Keep up the good work! All the best, --Swift (talk) 03:45, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the upload info
I created an Wikibooks Common account and uploaded the images. I'm re-editing the "Noob-to-pro" page now. If you hadn't mentioned it I wouldn't have been able to figure it out. I tried at first, but then got a page telling me stuff about how images need to be approved by a Steward and Administrators. So I decided "well, maybe I can link it." Thanks again! :0 --PaulJC (talk) 06:13, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks for pointing that out, I will try and ease the way to uploading images a bit. --SoylentGreen (talk) 16:19, 5 April 2009 (UTC)