User talk:Soupmix~enwikibooks

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Investiture Achievement
Hi Soupmix,

I have long had the idea to create an AY Instructor's Manual modeled after the Honors Answer Book. I have not done that here at Wikibooks though because of my concern that we could not possibly meet the Neutral Point of View policy in force here. Unfortunately, I do not think that an IA book would survive a vote for deletion. :-(

When the new IA curriculum was announced, I shared this vision with Mark O'Ffill, asking if it would be possible to host a Wiki on pathfindersonline.org. On the same day that I had done that, Brad Forbes from AdventSource had asked Mark what it would take to set up a Wiki for an IA Instructor's Manual - modeled after the Honors Answer Book, and hosted by the NAD. Mark put me in touch with Brad, and I had an pretty long phone call with him on this. The project has a green light, but it is moving far too slowly for my comfort.

You can read more about this on the Pathfinder Forum: http://www.pathfindersonline.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=60&t=1939

You'll have to scroll down to get to the part about the Wiki. If you would like to discuss this via email, please do not hesitate to contact me at jomegat at jomegat dot com, or drop a note in the forum. --Jomegat (discuss • contribs) 15:04, 8 August 2011 (UTC)

Do you think they would have a problem with neutrality on something like this? Soupmix (discuss • contribs) 17:19, 8 August 2011 (UTC)


 * Yes. I am sure that the old AY curricula would have had NPOV problems, which is why I didn't start a book for that three years ago.  I don't think that the requirements of the new curricula per se present a problem, but it would be very difficult for someone to remain neutral when providing guidance on meeting the requirements.  For example, the Adventist position that Ellen White was a prophet, or that Jesus was the Son of God would not be considered neutral.  These are statements of belief that cannot be proven (which is not the same as saying that they are untrue).  To get around that would require all kinds of acrobatic wording which would neuter belief.


 * Of course, I could be wrong about these supposed NPOV problems, but since the NAD is moving forward on the same project, I think it would be better to wait - at least a little while - for them to get something in place.  I would like to say that this will happen very soon, but in reality, I don't know when they will get the ball rolling.  It should be soon, and in fact, I was expecting something to happen on it over a month ago. The advantage of waiting is that the NAD wiki will be structured such that the requirements will be protected from editing, while the guidance portions will be publicly editable.  It will be the NAD official resource (the Honors Answers are not official, but they are indeed moving in that direction). --Jomegat (discuss • contribs) 19:03, 8 August 2011 (UTC)


 * Hi Soupmix. There has been some progress on the NAD-hosted wiki front.  We don't have it at the correct domain yet, but I have copied all the Honors Answers to the new wiki and have started on the IA Instructor's Manual.  It is still very much a work in progress, but it will not have any NPOV problems, and we can host images of PF insignia there without issues. For now, the Wiki is located here.  I'm not ready to tell the world about this yet, but since you are actively developing content, you should know about it.  When we get our "real" domain name, then we'll be ready.  --Jomegat (discuss • contribs) 23:03, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

WCI 2011 : Accelerating Wikibooks : Would like to discuss!
Hello!

I will be delivering a Talk at the Wikimedia Conference India 2011 on the topic of "Accelerating Wikibooks".

Over the next few days, I aim to make the proposal more and more wholesome and relevant. I'd like to discuss with you about the proposal and hope you can recommend me a few names on Wikibooks with whom I can discuss this.

I'd be very happy if you could discuss the proposal at User:Thewinster/Accelerating_Wikibooks

--Thewinster (discuss • contribs) 08:20, 26 September 2011 (UTC)

Summary of the proposal
This is not a summary of the final talk, only a tentative guideline.


 * Create Roadmaps for a book
 * Define Learning Outcomes
 * Annotate and Discuss new content available from around the web.
 * Minor tweaks and fixes which concentrate on crowdsourcing.
 * Identifying Small Contribution that advance a book and designing good UIs and triggers according to B.J. Fogg's Behavior Change Model, 8 Step Design Process. The paper can be found here at Persuasive Design : Eight Step Process by B. J. Fogg

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