User talk:Russell Cameron Thomas

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Welcome to Wikibooks, Russell Cameron Thomas!

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--Pi zero (discuss • contribs) 19:14, 20 January 2021 (UTC)

Re starting a book
The first thing we generally recommend is Using Wikibooks (which is itself a Featured Book). The most public place to ask questions is the Reading room. --Pi zero (discuss • contribs) 19:17, 20 January 2021 (UTC)

Thanks. I have read Using Wikibooks, at least the sections that apply to me. I will try the Reading room for asking questions. (I find that an odd name. I read in 'Reading Rooms'. I don't call out questions to who ever might be there.)  And except for the Annotated texts page, I have not found anything useful on how to create an Annotated text regarding design, collaboration, and administration (what ever that means in this context). I also don't see anything about book design as a process. I will ask and see who answers.

I have read all the policies and guidelines. I don't see any that prohibit having a style guide for a particular book. Am I missing something? (I will ask this in the Reading room, which apparently is really the 'Discussion room'.)

Also, I have given up on the Admin request. I don't see any way for me to "Cancel" that request. [sigh]

As might be apparent, I'm not have a great experience so far. --Russell Cameron Thomas (discuss • contribs) 19:33, 20 January 2021 (UTC)

Style guides are permitted and there are several examples I can provide tomorrow. Annotated texts are also common, for example, Annotations to James Joyce's Ulysses. As Leaderboard noted, you have freedom to do nearly anything without interference as few books attract controversy or arguments about style or content as long as you stick to the core policies on point of view, original research, etc. The only issue you ran into was the suggestion that you could enforce a style or content approvals by establishing ownership over the book. This is a fundamental issue on all projects as the Foundation does not permit it. I think you'll find the main challenge is the limitations of the mediawiki software and how that limits the way you can format and present material. Wikiversity has a different model that may work better (although I doubt it) QuiteUnusual (discuss • contribs) 22:56, 20 January 2021 (UTC)

Thanks. I looked at Annotations to James Joyce's Ulysses, and it is a useful example, at least to me started. I guess I need to ask for Upload privileges to get the original text in as images. As for software to format and present material, I have some good leads on JS that should be good enough to get started. --Russell Cameron Thomas (discuss • contribs) 01:09, 21 January 2021 (UTC)
 * You won't need upload privileges. As the material is out of copyright, it can be uploaded to Commons where it is directly accessible here. The "Upload" link in the "Tools" section will work for you and you can insert the image using he same Wikitext as you would if it was hosted locally. QuiteUnusual (discuss • contribs) 09:13, 21 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Popping in: please feel free to ask any queries at WB:RR (or message me on my talk page if needed). Leaderboard (discuss • contribs) 18:47, 21 January 2021 (UTC)

Moving and renaming pages
I noticed that you had requested speedy deletion on a couple of pages, however, it appeared that you were actually wanting to move/rename them. There is a straightforward procedure to do that: on the top bar, under "More", there should be an option "Move". That interface will ask where you should move/rename your pages to, and will then move/rename the pages for you. It's explained in more detail here. Please do let me know if you need any help there. Leaderboard (discuss • contribs) 10:54, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
 * It's possible that Russell Cameron Thomas is not yet able to move pages because their account is less than something-days old. I think it's four days.  In which case, just ask one of us to do it for you. --Pi zero (discuss • contribs) 13:33, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

Pi zero is correct -- the "More/Move..." tab + menu did not appear for me. I figured it was because I had a new account, though I didn't see that any where on the page that described "Move...". The good news is that "More/Move..." tab + menu now appears, so I should be good to go. Thanks for your help. --Russell Cameron Thomas (discuss • contribs) 02:33, 24 January 2021 (UTC)