User talk:Ruakh

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Good luck! --Panic (talk) 18:30, 20 September 2009 (UTC)


 * Thanks! Ruakh 19:26, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

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Can't it be resized ? See if you have the same problem in these Data Compression, Hypnosis, Video Game Design books (there are probably others) What is your prefs for Wikibooks in regards to Appearance /Skin (I use Classic/Floating right), I can try your (or you mine) and see if it is a problem with that configuration. It is not extremely important but esthetically it look better and differentiates the cover/title pages from the rest. --Panic (discuss • contribs) 21:03, 30 July 2011 (UTC)


 * Re: "Can't it be resized?": Yes, I think the large size is the problem; but even 150%, which no longer gets cut off (on my system, at least), nonetheless has a very odd appearance, not esthetic at all.
 * Re: skin: I use Vector (the default skin).
 * I don't see why so much inline CSS would be added on a book-by-book basis. You seem to be saying that cover/title pages should have this effect in all books; if that's the case, then probably there should be a single template   that produces, say,   . Different skins can then have appropriate CSS for h1.covertitle. (Alternatively, the whole thing could be handled in skin-specific JavaScript, since JavaScript can easily tell whether a given page is a cover/title page vs. an individual chapter.)
 * Ruakh 21:21, 30 July 2011 (UTC)


 * Ok the issue seems to be the Vector skin. I even would classify it as a bug since the possibility is present any needed change should be dealt by the preferences option.
 * I see format and presentation as a lower priority in regards to the books I work in and of course consider that Vector being the default should be the standard to look for as to permit a better experience to readers, but any aesthetic change that is not only of personal nature, but functional can't really be handled in the Javascript (it would require informing all readers to intentionally subscribe to it, with all the problems of providing the necessary information, and that never works). --Panic (discuss • contribs) 21:42, 30 July 2011 (UTC)


 * Well, but the functionality of the  template (used e.g. at Hypnosis/Chapters/History) is implemented in JavaScript (see MediaWiki:Common.js/Displaytitle.js); how is this one any different? Ruakh 21:48, 30 July 2011 (UTC)
 * I was talking/thinking only on a preferential based JavaScript, proposing an alteration to the Template:Displaytitle may have other implications. But I will formulate a proposal and explain what we have found...
 * Did you test the change with the Classic skin, did you find the change esthetically displeasing and of no intrinsic value to the book cover page ? (for instance in the Data Compression book removing it has a greater impact as it also uses an image). --Panic (discuss • contribs) 22:00, 30 July 2011 (UTC)


 * Re: your first paragraph: I'm definitely not suggesting a change to ; I just mean that Wikibooks is already using site-wide JavaScript for similar purposes.
 * Re: your second paragraph: I'm really too infrequent a contributor here to have much opinion on that.
 * Ruakh 22:05, 30 July 2011 (UTC)


 * Ok thanks in any case for helping find out the issue (that had already been noticed before but without getting to the bottom of why the fonts didn't appear as they should). I will try to find out if something can be (and gathers the necessary support) to be done. --Panic (discuss • contribs) 22:14, 30 July 2011 (UTC)