User talk:Remi0o

Come introduce yourself at the new users page. If you have any questions, you can ask there or contact me personally. Xania 20:45, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

Please make sure that new books conform to our page naming system. Sub-pages should be in the format of book name/pagename. Xania 20:45, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

Attention
Please stop creating new empty pages unless you are going to add content soon. Also please don't create talk pages without creating a module first and don't create new pages which only redirect to external sources. Wikibooks is a collection of free books and these books should be located on this website. If you need any help please ask myself or any other active users. Thanks. Xania 20:54, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

Regarding the Requests page
I don't have much time to look at the Requests page often but it seems very cluttered. I don't know any good solutions to this problem although maybe it would be better to separate the requests page into a request page for different genres (like an ARTS REQUEST PAGE, SCIENCE REQUEST PAGE, etc.). If you can think of any good way of tidying up this page then feel free. Xania 21:18, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

No problem with your suggested changes. Go ahead and we'll see how it looks. Good luck! Xania 21:42, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

Vandalism
Thank you for changing some of the vandalism recently. Xania 21:15, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

Miracles
I just took a look at this page. Don't want to be difficult but by no stretch of the imagination can this be called a page or a book - it is a collection of links only. I believe I would be operating within the deletion policy here if I were to speedily delete it. I won't do that as you are an active editor but could I ask you to look at getting some actual content into it soon as I think otherwise I or another editor is likely to VfD it. I do hope you won't object to me bringing this to you like this but it really isn't a "book". Thanks -- Herby talk thyme 13:01, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
 * That's better - I was concerned when I saw you had marked it for deletion - content is much better - thanks -- Herby talk thyme 07:54, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

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New logo
OK - now I'm irritated!!! I'm trying to get your option of the new logo on to the top of the next Gazette. Some of the logos seem to work but looking at the voting and the logo yours seems like a good option to offer people and try and get them interested. Is it just me or is there a reason? Thanks -- Herby talk thyme 13:58, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Hey I like it - I just can't get it to "show up" as [[Image:Blooze.svg|100px]] which (if it is on Commons?) should be there. If not can you load it on to commons (or here) and then I'll put it on the Gazette - thanks a lot -- Herby  talk thyme 07:59, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
 * GREAT - I'll put it on later - thanks -- Herby talk thyme 08:06, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
 * It's here if you want to look/edit Wikibooks Gazette - thanks a lot -- Herby talk thyme 12:53, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

Palaeontology
While I think it is great and all, anything at wikisource on this subject that im doindg at wikiversity. Enlil Ninlil 06:42, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
 * What sort of help do you need? --Remi0o 06:52, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

Interesting link
On the vandalism one - thanks. It is SO easy to misunderstand this type of communication so I appreciate the pointer. I also appreciate your views on the vandalism. Personally I think there may well be more vandalism but I think leaving it as it is for now is correct - all the best -- Herby talk thyme 08:54, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

Magick?
I'm just looking thro the VfDs to see if I can tidy up. You expressed an interest in the Magick one - do you feel like pursuing it? I am a bit of a deletionist but looking at it what worries me is iffy books pages that no one is interested in. I don't think that sends out the right message to readers of Wikibooks (hope that makes sense).

I'm quite happy to try putting the VfD on hold for a month if you feel like working on it (no one complained when I did it on Imamat but of course if folk don't agree there is little I can do). While I think we should be fussier about content I really do feel if people want to work on something it would be odd to delete it. Let me know - regards -- Herby talk thyme 13:05, 30 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Thanks - I think about it - I just have this feeling that it could be a better book. If you have a minute could you look at Theology/Urantian theology and give me your opinion.  I think it may be more your sort of thing than mine - thanks -- Herby  talk thyme 11:29, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

Wireless_Mesh_Networks
RemiOo, Thanks for the note of encouragement. I've added a list of topics for the book, the beginnings of a thesis, and a space to encourage an outline. Perhaps you can take a look at what I've put down and see if it's enough to write a book about.  kgrr talk06:34, 2 March 2007 (UTC)


 * You wrote ... "I bet a book could be written on all the different ways to use light poles as a mounting option for wireless mesh networks, or how the wireless mesh network was implemented in Mesa, AZ (the politics, development history, people, technical details, etc). So that was the longerish answer to your question, but yes, definitely."

By the way, I've been in Philadelphia PA, Mesa, AZ, Tempe, AZ, Chandler, AZ, to see different deployments of meshes. I also have been involved in mesh trials in other locations. And, you are right, there is a lot to be said just in the mounting techniques and getting power for access points.

I will add a few other topics then * motivation - digital divide - public service (police and fire departments) - service provider (for profit) - hobbyist * history - Philadelphia - ...  * business models - free - fee (per use, subscription) * politics - zoning - architectural review

 kgrr talk14:24, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

RemiOo, I've got the basic structure in place. Could you guys give it a good review? I would like to learn how to do it right before I spread my mistakes all over the place.  kgrr talk14:07, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

RemiOo, Thanks for the review. I did the navigation on top of each page with a template I stole from a book I liked. I agree it gives the reader the ability to flip pages in the book...

Template:Wireless_Mesh_Networks

The parts I would like to understand better are 1) I guess there are no references, only footnotes because there is no way to collect them across the pages and give them unique reference numbers as such. I have a good way to do references within one page that I've borrowed from Wikipedia ...

Wireless_Mesh_Networks/References

2) I would love to know how to do an index of key words. Maybe there is a robot that can do this.

3) And, ditto for the glossary

I will apply the same overall style to the CCNA book. It really needs to be opened up so that people can add things to it.

 kgrr talk00:12, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

C++ Programming
Hi; good to see you doing some work on the C++ Programming book. (I don't claim to be a primary author of it, but I've added a fair amount of material/fixes/reorgs there.) I like the navigation you've added, largely -- is the plan to make it consistent with "TOC2"? Just wondering -- the presence of twin TOCs for this work makes the notion of navigation somewhat more complicated. Good to have another pair of eyes/hands looking at and working on this book. -- James Dennett 20:38, 2 March 2007 (UTC)


 * I rather like TOC2 myself! (Incidentally, I'm watching this page, so feel free to reply here if wish.) -- James Dennett 22:03, 2 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Hi, Remi0o the navigation you've added are also showing on the single page version of the book, I mirror that page from time to time, can you fix it ? all the best, thanks. PS: I use TOC1 75.126.48.146 (unsigned) 00:09, 4 March 2007


 * I prefer toc1 also but about the navigation scheme Remi0o, in the past there were 3 types of navigations used on the book (at the same time) that was done using trasnclusion of the pages and joining the navigations under the same namespace on the book, they all worked fine but due to only one user supporting it and being hard to maintain (the book is using the / convention to provide a simple navigation) so I and Darklama (after a vote and decision was reached) removed all of them, I also agree with the above post using that navigation on the "real" book pages will mess about the monolithic version of the book (I use that also from time to time to get the flow of the book), if you strongly feel that there should be a navigation scheme used I will help you set it up but is up to you to maintain it (a bot would be helpful on that task, see about it with an administrator), or get more users to help you maintain it.
 * The book namespace as it is is a bit messed up now, I have requested that it be repositioned again so please wait until a response is given on that area, txs. --Panic 03:52, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

Authors vs Contributors
Remi0o, the templates are shared or are intended to be shared in several places on a book or on several books when editing a template be careful to check the What links here page.

Contributors aren't authors and some general disagreements; the definition of author and contributor is not the same, an author of a works is someone that not only accepts a level of responsibility but have some rights over that work see Ownership, for instance correcting spelling, changing formats moving text is considered a contribution but does not create new content (translations are considered creative work so have a special treatment), basically an author is a contributor that has extensive enough work so to generates a derivative work (under GFDL), only he has the right to add his name or remove it from the authors list (under GFDL the top 5 authors are the top limitation to that list), authorship can't be imposed by a third party (it can no less be determined) consider it as signing your name (or not) on a work you have done. (you could also check out ghostwriting)

The point were some disagree is on what constitutes a work, for instance some consider a book an aggregation of several works (pages) under the GFDL or give importance to the history logs, in this regard to my knowledge there isn't consensus and even I have points that I can't clearly conciliate, for instance when you print a work from wikibooks no history logs are required on the printout, mention to Wikibooks is not a requirement for books (but needed for modules of wikibooks), should we consider to have a license that covers all the site and another that covers each book? Do authors need to comply with the US law requirements? This are still points that need proper analysis but at the moment people have not agreed upon. --Panic 12:51, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

I have also started a talk about it at User_talk:Darklama, feel free to participate. --Panic 16:20, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

The discussion has also moved to Administrators Noticeboard, you can also comment there. (try to read a bit about what was already talked) I have also replied to you on how to edit the template variable. --Panic 19:51, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

Thank You
Thanks for moving my misplaced welcome. -- xixtas talk 00:17, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

Opposition vote for SB_Johnny as bureaucrat
FYI, there is a whole lot of discussion that can happen about why I voted in opposition, and I think Withinfocus' comments that my vote of opposition should be disregarded is an insult.

I didn't want to open a can of worms to wide, and I did ask that if somebody other than the parties that I knew already had a pretty good understanding of the issues between me and Johnny wanted more of the history, they could ask me directly. So far nobody has.

Let me just say that I think now is not a good time to give him a "promotion" of this nature, as I believe there are many others on Wikibooks that would have less political baggage than Johnny. But that is something you and other Wikibookians can decide for yourself.

BTW, the #1 reason I'm not active on Wikibooks at the moment is mainly because of Johnny. I just don't want to deal with him any more. --Rob Horning 16:08, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

*Sigh*
Robert is quite aware of wikiversity, but he hasn't been involved there recently. OTOH, as a fellow "Custodian" (same link as above ;)), I appreciate the desire to attract new, trusted folks to Wikiversity... the two projects need to work together closely in the future if both are to fulfil their potentials.

I'm not a cabalist, a power hungry madman, or anything of the sort. My beefs with Robert are legitimate, however: as I've told him several times (on various talk pages and some emails), I don't want him to leave the project. Your mentor on WV knows me a lot better than Rob does, if you feel the need to ask around. -- SB_Johnny | talk 23:33, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

ENGR
I saw some of your edits on the engineering bookshelf, and I appreciate them. Not too many users besides myself work on that shelf, so it's always nice to have another set of hands around to make the work lighter. I removed some of the whitespace that you added at the top of the page because i felt it made things look too spread out. I didnt touch any of your other changes, however.

by the way, are you an engineer? A surprisingly large number of people around here are, but most of them choose not to work on engineering books (and i can't blame them). --Whiteknight (talk) (projects) 02:30, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
 * I'm no engineer. Psychology is what I have studied so far. It is unfortunate there are not more users who contribute to highly technical books. --Remi 03:02, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

Requests for import
I stumbled across your request for an import from Wikipedia here. In the future, you should ask at WB:RFI if you want something imported. This allows us to do it in a timely manner, and also log all requests in a central location. Hope you like the new version of that page. – Mike.lifeguard  &#124; talk 15:06, 6 October 2007 (UTC)