User talk:Ottawahitech

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--Pi zero (discuss • contribs) 17:01, 31 December 2017 (UTC)

Category sorting
Hi @Ottawahitech! I noticed that you've been changing how a few recipes are sorted in a few categories. I was wondering—what's your goal/thinking here? Thanks! —Kittycataclysm (discuss • contribs) 17:56, 3 March 2024 (UTC)


 * @Kittycataclysm: That's a good question. First I would like to mention that I only edited 3 items in one category.
 * Initially I noticed that all the recipes in Category:Apple recipes that start with the word apple are sorted into the A section of the category, which makes it harder for those of us who browse Cookbook categories to find certain types of recipes. I don't know how representative I am, but if I am looking for, say, bakery items that have apples in them I am not going to be looking in the A section.
 * So I thought I would use hotcat which makes it easy to add a sort key, but I guess all sortkeys on Wikibooks are added through a template (I believe this is also how Wikinews does this), so I tried to change only one item (Cookbook: Apple Pie I) to see how it works. That's when I discovered that my edit will not take effect until it has been reviewed . I then stopped.
 * The next time I logged in I saw that my change was reviewed and approved (I think?), so I proceeded with two more category sortkey edits the first was similar to the previous when I added "pie" as a sort key. The second was to add a "muffin" as a sort key. (NOTE TO SELF: Wow that took a lot of words to explain).
 * Am I making sense? Ottawahitech (discuss • contribs) 20:33, 3 March 2024 (UTC)

Cookbook linking to other projects
Hi @Ottawahitech! Just a heads-up that links to Wikipedia or other books/projects should not be included in the Cookbook. Cheers —Kittycataclysm (discuss • contribs) 21:33, 14 March 2024 (UTC)


 * @Kittycataclysm, thanks for the note.
 * When I made the edit I was not sure if such links are permitted. I vaguely remembered seeing that links to enwp are not welcome, but I have seen those inter-wiki links on many books. Are you saying that this is not a wikibook requirement, only a Cookbook requirement?
 * Just trying to understand. Ottawahitech (discuss • contribs) 17:36, 16 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Hi @Ottawahitech. Unlike with some projects (e.g. Wikipedia) in the majority of cases, inter-wiki links are not appropriate at Wikibooks, with only rare and well-justified exceptions. The same goes for linking between books here. Books should be largely self-contained, containing all key information within themselves. If necessary content is missing according to the scope of the book, it should be added. If content links need to be created to other projects, going through Wikidata is generally more appropriate. Cheers —Kittycataclysm (discuss • contribs) 21:42, 21 March 2024 (UTC)