User talk:Nicola.georgiou/sandbox/Approaches to Knowledge/Seminar group 13/ History

Film Studies section
Hi ! this article is very interesting ! One point that could be mentioned is that the first systemic use of films was - first in the USSR then in the US and Europe -- was political and exploited as a mean of state propaganda. This intricacy between film-making and politics propels films studies to an interdisciplinary field of analysis from its birth. Obviously the economic aspect (of financing for example) is a major component. One can also question the power of images in "emotional persuasion and manipulation" (psychological approach). The technical aspects of films -- editing for example -- and the "esthetic choices" guide/manipulate the viewer in his emotional/ intellectual journey (aka powerful narrative/political tool). The french author Julien Gracq discusses this issue in his book Reading Writing--Alwayslearningmore (discuss • contribs) 12:26, 22 October 2020 (UTC)

Might be a little late to write this but the section on paradigm shifts in film studies is lacking citations. I'm not sure who wrote this but you may want to consider adding them! Bfevidal (discuss • contribs) 11:13, 7 November 2020 (UTC)

Hello, I have also noticed that the citations were not posted. So I have just added all of the citations and references that you had previously marked on the text as missing a citation. Thanks for pointing it out. Ethan.dawson101 (discuss • contribs) 20:43, 9 November 2020 (UTC)

=Theology section= Hi! I'm not sure who wrote the theology section but you may want to clarify if by Oxford you mean Oxford university. Bfevidal (discuss • contribs) 18:23, 19 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Absolutely! Thank you for pointing that out Unadorablemensonge (discuss • contribs) 19:05, 19 October 2020 (UTC)

=References= Good day all, I was wondering if it would be a good idea format-wise to just have a singular section at the end for all of our references combined? And if so, whether we should start formatting as such now or wait until all entries have been submitted. Please let me know what you think, thank you. Edgeofdawn (discuss • contribs) 17:02, 17 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Hello, it was a wonderful surprise reading your comment! I have just been trying to figure out a way to homogenise the references of our page by inserting them all at the bottom. I have managed to insert the 'references' part at the end of the page and add my references there, however the references from the article on IR in relation to History seem to follow a different code. Not the standard 1,2,3,4 but History in IR 1,History in IR 2 and so on. I think this is why I can't add them on to the rest of the references. Any idea on how to modify this? I think it's best if we do this as we go rather than leaving it all for the end Unadorablemensonge (discuss • contribs) 18:50, 17 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Hello everyone! I also agree on the topic, and think that uniting all of the references would be a good idea. I will try do so now. Macabre Roses (discuss • contribs) 01:07, 18 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Alright, so it turned out that the references were following a different code because some of the references were used twice, and sometimes two reference hyperlinks led to one single reference. I have thus moved the references of the "History and International Relations" category to all of the other references in the "References category", without changing the names of the reference groups. The hyperlinks still lead to the proper reference, they are simply now at the bottom of the page. Macabre Roses (discuss • contribs) 01:23, 18 October 2020 (UTC)

=Chemistry:= Hello, I have edited and tweeked a bit of the chemistry section, I have aslo added just a line about the formalization of the discipline at university level teaching. Furthermore, I think it would be quite interesting if using this initial analisis of the basis of the history of the discipline we could examine some clear and evident instances of paradigm shift in the discipline,like for example the theory of conservation of mass or the valence bond and molecular orbital theories. An example I think is specifically good and would be quite easy to look at is the revolution of quantum mechanics that happened as the laws of classical physcics started to fail us in the beginnig of the 20th cnetury and a new field of quantum mechanics was explored with a heavy fixation on chemistry. This then could also link to the idea of atomic structure to spectroscopy, which would just add to the idea of fluidity within the contents of a discipline and the power of paradigm shift as part of a disciplines history.Ethan.dawson101 (discuss • contribs) 21:25, 9 November 2020 (UTC)

=The Importance of History to Genetics section=

Hello! I found your article very interesting but a bit short (104 words). I'm sure there is plenty of other things to say about it.

=Themed categories=
 * Hello everyone, since we are trying to make the page look consistent/coherent, I thought that it would be a good idea to categorise the different contributions. I have so far created two categories: "History of Disciplines" and "Relationships between History and different Disciplines". If, as the contributions multiply and change, any of you think of another pertinent category, or think that a contribution should be moved, we could make the necessary changes correspondingly. Macabre Roses (discuss • contribs) 01:30, 18 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Yes, I think this makes sense. I did notice that in the "Contents" part at the top of the page, the references are marked as 2.2 under the category of "2. Relationship Between History and Different Disciplines," rather than as a third category. Should we attempt to change that? Unadorablemensonge (discuss • contribs) 08:05, 18 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Hey, I've just alphabetised the categories to make it a little more orderly :) Bfevidal (discuss • contribs) 18:34, 19 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Hi, it's me again. I have just made the change, you can look at the difference in the History of page edits; tell me what you think is better! Unadorablemensonge (discuss • contribs) 08:10, 18 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Thank you! I do think it looks better that way. Macabre Roses (discuss • contribs) 01:04, 19 October 2020 (UTC)

=Conclusion:= Hey since I noticed that all of the other issues had conclusions and this one didn't, I suppose because it was the first one we had to, I have just added a paragraph at the end grouping together the ideas that are shown throughout all of the different sections you all wrote. Feel free to change it if you believe anything is missing, as a lot of different topics have been mentioned in the article and I am not sure I fully included them in the conclusion. I also do believe the conclusion if missing a final point or argument as it only sums up what we have already said, but doesn’t really expand this information into something larges and more complex. Ethan.dawson101 (discuss • contribs) 23:54, 9 October 2020 (UTC)
 * I have also just seen that the conclusion whas posted twice and that someone edited the second voy of it, so I have erased the firs on and left the second one. Thank you. Ethan.dawson101 (discuss • contribs) 12:08, 10 October 2020 (UTC)