User talk:Mkn

Man, I suddenly got a bad cold.

I'll get to building my pages, but only after I'm done being sick. I can't think straight when I'm sick. I'd be glad to have you edit my pages to make them look more proper. In my spare time I teach basic Japanese and give tests. I hope to do a half decent job here. -- 鼠 22:55, 10 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Japanese Signs
great idea. I've always wanted to take pics of the signs that say "don't use fire" anyway .. apparantly Japan wants us to go back to being cavemen

sorry about the cold -- Antimobius 04:37, 19 Nov 2004 (UTC)


 * Haha, dude, *you* said to "edit my pages to make them look more proper". So I did :). I filled in the kana teaching pages with basic groundwork, image names, sounds, one or two actual mnemonics. For the image names I used a Japanese romanization for easier naming. Henche sa, si, su, se, so and ta, ti, tu, te, to. I may not have access to a computer for the weekend, but I'll see if I can fill in some of the examples next week, and dream up some more mnemonics. GoodStuff 06:27, 19 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Ah I see what caused the confusion. Nezumi wrote that comment about having a bad cold but didn't add signature. GoodStuff, please don't tamper with user comments on discussion tabs (spelling, grammar of user's comment isn't important to edit). This is why I thought it was your post. Now I had to add the signatures for both Nezumi and Antimobius to avoid confusion about who wrote them.

The comment I made on your page before you blanked it, about everyone working towards the same goal. I still believe that. I had planned to name the images SI, TI, TU, HU so we think the same. Thanks for adding the sounds, mnemonics. It's a good idea. -- [[User:Mkn|Mkn (Talk)]] 15:05, 19 Nov 2004 (UTC)

My most humble apologies. From now on, badly speelled user comments are sacred :) It looks like we are making visible progress at last. I'm grateful for that. GoodStuff 06:53, 22 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Main page layout change
I have to say I dislike this layout. Yes the old one made the yellow column squashed, so I think maybe the ratio should be adjusted, but the new version is not as aesthetically appealing as the old version. Also, it hids the important information in the yellow column, which makes the blue column sometimes difficult to understand by new users.--Naryathegreat 03:12, 22 Nov 2004 (UTC)


 * You're right. Done. :-) -- [[User:Mkn|Mkn (Talk)]]

Programming: C -/- -/-
May I know why you hastily moved the page without reading the earlier history of that page & Programming:C plus plus? -- Paddu 11:51, 23 Nov 2004 (UTC)


 * There are already enough forks of the work. Please don't add more. See Staff lounge. Thanks! -- Paddu 11:53, 23 Nov 2004 (UTC)


 * I meant that the history of why that page exists is referred to by Staff lounge which is referred to by Talk:Programming: C -/- -/-. So unless the disputes are settled it is best not to move the page. Sorry if I sounded rude. Thanks for your cooperation. -- Paddu 11:58, 23 Nov 2004 (UTC)
 * BTW you could add your comments to the lounge on this issue. -- Paddu 11:58, 23 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Yeah of course I meant to say "page/group of pages" instead of just "page". I'm in favour of multiple-pages. But when talking about forks I tend to call the group of pages a page. I hope I haven't made this mistake in many places, or people might think I'm in favour of single page! -- Paddu 14:32, 23 Nov 2004 (UTC)
 * i.e. I meant merge into a single page/group of pages. Er... wait a minute. I was talking about merging of the talk pages, not the article. And the talk page could even be a single page. It could've remained a single page, but Panic added some redundancy which caused the talk page to bloat. Now it makes sense to have subpages for the talk too. -- Paddu 14:36, 23 Nov 2004 (UTC)

I've given up. I'm afraid people may take this too personal if I continue the "crusade" against forkers. If the community wants to avoid forks, it better nip it in the bud. Else if the community suffers later with forks, it's its (i.e. the community's) choice. I've given enough opportunities for everyone to respond, but the fork still stays. I also have better things to do than trying to organise things without the support of others. I'll do something now & then, but I've decided to stop all futile efforts in educating forkers.

Actually I know one (albeit unethical) way one can make everyone aware of the issue. Rather than opposing something detrimental to the community, support & expand on it. Fork random versions of random pages, esp. those not in the main namespace. Then it spreads faster than it would've & the community notices & takes action. I've concluded that there's no other way out. Which is why I've quit this activity.

BTW Thanks for your cooperation. -- Paddu 13:08, 24 Nov 2004 (UTC)


 * BTW this also means that the lies in Talk:Programming: C -/- -/-, e.g. that I didn't advance a particular idea any further, would prevail. Similarly any opposition to someone's statement in Talk:Programming:C plus plus, which weren't forked into Talk:Programming: C -/- -/- wouldn't be visible to the readers of Talk:Programming: C -/- -/- and vice versa. This may lead to some "proposals" being branded as "adopted" and some as "dead" irrespective of whether any proper discussion took place. One side would be giving their views in page A & the other side in page B. So nobody would easily come to know of the entire conversation. Some would think there is consensus on page A, and one would think there is consensus on page B.


 * Or whatever, forget that rant. Only one question: do what you feel like about . If I try to do anything about that, it'll only get reverted. -- Paddu 13:54, 24 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Oi Mkn, can you do me a favor, I have added a picture to C++ herr Programming:_C_-/-_-/-_Foreword, the main shouldnt be refreshed yet, but I cant upload it as it gets corrupted by the upload ,its working ok remotely (and can be used) if you have a bit of time and you could make it local to wikibooks that would be great... if you do add a quick remark to the Talk:Programming: C -/- -/- topic about it txs, sorry to ask ya but no one else is online (contributors/ppl I know) if you cant no prob. ... --Panic 03:13, 26 Nov 2004 (UTC)

NOTE PING
replied --Panic 23:30, 23 Nov 2004 (UTC) replied--Panic 00:52, 24 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Sigs
Hi. I noticed that your signature is looking a little funny. 1.4 changed the way signatures are rendered, so if you want to fix it, you can go to Special:Preferences, and tick "Raw signatures (without automatic link)" under the first section. -Frazzydee|&#9997; 05:03, 7 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Bookshelf templates
Hi Mnk! I like your work on the bookshelf templates (div float on the right). Looks nicer now. If you have some time and you like the idea, join us to review some books and give new development stages, including date (see there). This is to increase the overall appearance and standard of Wikibooks. I started a little bit on the IT bookshelf and Science bookshelf. No need to hurry, and a few book reviews would be enough to get something started. Thanks, --Andreas Ipp 11:18, 12 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Cookbook:Bacon Cheese Omelet
Please take a look at Cookbook:Bacon Cheese Omelet. I'm guessing (well, hoping) that you know wikitext well enough to fix the image alignment problems properly, hopefully without huge amounts of obscure code.

Desired result:


 * Both the ingredient list and tool list are actual lists. (like this one)
 * The images are lined up with the lists, not flowing randomly.
 * There is no need to crudely guess at some number of semi-blank lines to do this.

AlbertCahalan 02:55, 21 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Cookbook:Corn header
I've been trying to standardize the headers, and you just switched one back.

We have irregular use of |>- and more, with and without lines, occasionally in small print. The | symbol is most common, looks relatively attractive, and matches what the wiki engine uses for categories at the bottom of the page. (a bullet might look better, but that's getting complicated)

User:Artic (Robert Engelhardt) needs help w/ Beekeeping
I think your wikitext expertise would be appreciated. See the beekeeping talk page. AlbertCahalan 04:01, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Hiragana on wikicommon
hello, I'm french (so sorry for the english ;-), We are trying to write the japanese wikibook in french, so we use your drawing of hiragana et probably the katakana.. the problem is : I can't use (or I don't know how) link from wikibook english -> wikibook french so i decide to transfert the picture on wikicommon, But i forgot to ask you.. I feel sorry, next time I will ask you before. I modify a little bit the picture, separate ka and ga. because we dont use the same order in the lesson. http://fr.wikibooks.org/wiki/Le%C3%A7on_Hiragana_1

so if you want, you can ask for delete this

sorry --81.56.143.11 21:02, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Images of Japanese writings
Hi there! On polish Wikibooks edition, we are trying to set proper tags for any picutre that is uploaded into the service. Could you inform us under which license these drawings are relased? If so, please put a message on my userpage. Thanks in advance! Sblive 14:56, 2 Jul 2005 (UTC)

Japanese:Videogame is on votes for deletion
Hello, Mkn. I am not sure if you are still around, but if you read this, you should know that some Wikibooks users want to delete Japanese:Videogame and subpages. Unfortunately, we forgot to put a notice about the proposed deletion on the Japanese:Videogame page, but as of 21 October I have added one. I am supporting the deletion because I think that Japanese:Videogame will grow into a huge collection of videogame transcripts and translations, which are copyrighted without a GFDL license. I want to give you an opportunity to go to WB:VFD and comment/vote on the deletion. --Kernigh 15:08, 21 October 2005 (UTC)

Japanese katakana Lesson 9
The wrong image is posted under "stroke order" for "ra". Could you please upload the correct image for ? Right now there is a gigantic scripted katakana ra there. See Addps4cat 14:54, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Do you have a user page? Well, that image was not uploaded by me. I think (hopefully!) that I uploaded all the kana images. Is there a way to check the file history? -- Mkn 17:40, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

Unlicensed Images
According to my records, you have uploaded atleast 85 images to this project that are not properly licensed. We are going to be mass deleting all unlicensed images from wikibooks in the next month, because they pose a significant legal threat to our project. If you would like to save your images, you must tag them with an appropriate license (or, if you want to mass-tag your images, you can ask at staff lounge for assistance). --Whiteknight (talk) (projects) 19:33, 3 November 2006 (UTC)


 * It looks to me that you've made most of these images yourself in MS Paint. If this is the case, I should be able to tag all of the images with the license of your choosing. I would much rather tag all these images for you then have to delete them all, so I hope that you get this message and respond to it quickly. --Whiteknight (talk) (projects) 17:47, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

Copyright problem with Image:Hira a.gif

 * – Mike.lifeguard  | talk 15:43, 21 September 2007 (UTC)