User talk:Mjchael

Hello, and welcome to Wikibooks! Good luck! Mattb112885 (talk) 12:41, 8 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Hello! I am accustomed with the Germans wikibooks. I will not work directly on the English text (my English is to bad). I put the translation of my German work on a special page. On this I write my translation. The other users can take it and create their own side. --Mjchael 18:30, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

New Chords and Scales
Just thought I would let you know that I have added a Scale Manual page to Wikibook: Guitar and I have also added a Technical Exercise page. I have put chord images in the Chord Reference section. I don't know if any these images would be useful to you but you can see them in the Wikimedia Commons categories Scales on guitar and Chords in guitar. Keep up the good work. --Sluffs (talk) 15:03, 26 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Now I have noticed the new chords and scales. I consider to internationalize my chords and scales (fingering in 1234 or pimaq instead of zmrk (= German fingering)). And B for the German Note H. But this would be many work. In this context I will take over your cords. Every chord and scale should be in the SVG-format. Incscape is an useful free-ware-programm for vector-graphics. But easier to handle is Corel-Draw. (A bit older Version is adequate and cheap enough. Only a SVG-export should be available.) I'm going to have a look at your pages with your new chords. I will report back. --Mjchael (talk) 12:31, 6 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the reply. I looked at the German Wikibook for the guitar and was very impressed by the layout and use of images. I'll find out about the SVG format and will try to get some software.

--Sluffs (talk) 16:09, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

Songbook
I fixed the link on that page, but wanted to point out Naming policy. You'll want to use a slash (/) instead of a colon for the book's pages. If you can ensure that every page (other than the title page) has on it, that would be great. That will put all the book's pages into the proper category. Welcome and happy editing. -- Adrignola talk contribs 16:48, 6 August 2009 (UTC)


 * I added the other categories you requested and you can find them shown in |Category:Songbook. -- Adrignola talk contribs 20:50, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your efforts! New categories will be inserted automatically with the new songs. Now I know how it works. :o)) --Mjchael (talk) 21:25, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

Todo-upgrade
I notice you've recently been adding a second unnamed parameter to some transclusions. The template doesn't use a parameter , though. Is there some deeper reason for doing this, that I'm missing? --Pi zero (talk) 14:58, 13 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Not yet! But it is in preparation. Currently, the additional parameter set does not harm anything. But it will allowsa specified todo-list for each book and each user. --Mjchael (talk) 15:06, 13 August 2009 (UTC)


 * A thought, or perhaps a thought and a half: Rather than requiring the name of each book to be hardwired into a todo list, it might make sense to build the tool so it deduces the book name using {{ROOTBOOKNAME}} (possibly combined with a test for NAMESPACE, if one wants different behavior for, say, userspace).  At least, it probably would make sense to use {{ROOTBOOKNAME}} as the parameter when calling, so that renaming the book wouldn't mess up its s.  --Pi zero (talk) 17:30, 13 August 2009 (UTC)


 * That makes sense! It would make the handling of the todo-list extremely simple. The parameter would only be used for username and separate books of several volumes. Good idea, I will convert it. --Mjchael (talk) 17:50, 13 August 2009 (UTC)


 * You should file your categories in Category:TODO and not Category:Todo as the former already existed. -- Adrignola talk contribs 19:20, 13 August 2009 (UTC)
 * I have already noticed that, and I was already in the process to correct it. :) --Mjchael (talk) 19:24, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

Syntax error
Major and possible critical break. I only attempted to fix the first one and failed, it may be also defeating the propose of simplicity that such a template need to be usable by any editor. See todo boxes in The World of Peer-to-Peer (P2P)/What is Peer-to-Peer (P2P)/Legal Perspective, the ones with todonote are the one broken, I've attempted to fix one of them but it didn't seem to work probably due to the use of the hyperlink inside. --Panic (talk) 01:05, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
 * @Panic Curly brackets were missing. Syntax is fixed. Sorry for the trouble --Mjchael (talk) 08:17, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Yup all seems right... Thanks for the prompt fix. --Panic (talk) 15:16, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

Writhe
Looking at your user page, I suspect writhe isn't the word you wanted. (I'm wondering if this might be due to a false friend.) --Pi zero (talk) 12:47, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
 * It was a spelling mistake. Thanks for the tip --Mjchael (talk) 19:11, 14 August 2009 (UTC

Test

 * BOOKNAME:
 * NAIVEBOOKNAME:
 * ARTICLESPACE:
 * NAIVEBOOKSTEM:

Request of template NOTE
Can you extend (without any other change, ie: rounding of the box) so that it can replace the existing one without changes to the pages that uses it. So it generates a per book category (ie:Notes) similar to the TODO's ? This would not change the functionality and would help editors. --Panic (talk) 19:38, 21 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Does this makes sense? Notes don't have to be processed. Or should the notes in the long run disappear? Serves the notes only as a working aid, or can it also be notes for the reader? Before I start working on this template, I want to make sure that the functionality not unnecessarily be inflated. --Mjchael (talk) 21:16, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
 * It enables a better coordination of the content on the book (avoid duplication and even point to a section that goes into a subject/book more in depth with that particular case), we have to take in consideration that sometimes people even leave comments on the main page, even if I have most of the pages of the books I'm working in my watchlist other editors (especially sporadic ones will not, or even readers, it is somehow expected that more experienced readers would like to browse all those asides/considerations on the book content). To be able to easily list all of them would be a boon. We can even argue that having other templates share these in book categories would increase awareness of the feature and the other inbook categories. --Panic (talk) 22:02, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
 * The programming is done! Unfortunately, yet the linked sites are not displayed, but I don't see any mistakes. I will check it tomorrow. (Now it's time to go to bed!) --Mjchael (talk) 3:05, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Now that I saw the implementation I understood your first question...
 * Yup there is no useful reason to have the category show as a "root" category (like the Category:TODO).
 * The idea was just to have a hidden subcategory inside the book category like the TODO/C++ Programming, probably named "Notes and Observations". Where pages using the NOTE template in a book would be listed. I hadn't think further than that. --Panic (talk) 02:23, 24 August 2009 (UTC)


 * I was also looking on all the new possibilities of the TODO and think that the new category shouldn't have pages listed but only subcategories, that would use only one page that would indeed show relevant information. (This would also remove the duplication of having TODO and TODO/BOOKTITLE as categories on a page (and having the more relevant to users and editors of a particular book set as a hidden category). Having only one show could also be improved, can't the TODO category on a particular book be made to open directly that TODO/BOOKTITLE page ? (less verbosity for example Animating Weapons for Counter-Strike Source/Draw Animation using NOTE)
 * Another issue that I now see is with the categories and the possibility of signing the templates uses. It does generate (ie: ) categories. Because not all are signed and the signature isn't obligatory (couldn't since the use of the template is now so extensive, correcting that would be an huge task), it really doesn't serve any real purpose (the category), signatures would always be an helpful addition but since it can't be made obligatory the concept fails. A different concept would be generating a  for unsigned TODOs/NOTEs is it possible ?  --Panic (talk) 02:52, 24 August 2009 (UTC)


 * In the German wikibooks I work with the category:todo and the category:todo-booktitle. The first one gives an overview about all projects, and the second one helps me by working on a single book. But we don't create automatically categories. Except the main-category Todo. However the opportunity is given to customize the todoes. But no one is forced to use it. I operate readily with these both options. Maybe we should delete the automatically creating of sub-categories. Should they be used, then they can still be created manually. Maybe I should think it over, if I can program the template in that way, that only those who want it, will get an automatic sub-category of the book. The subcategories TODO/username are used for teamwork. Shall the note-template be reduced? (Excuse please, if my English should be wrong.) --Mjchael (talk) 14:23, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

my solution
The automatically creating of categories by the Notes is deleted. Notes from the author to the reader don't need any categories. With one or more optional parameter of the bookname or an username a "note" can be customized (in case of comments about the book or the chapter). Then it will be an instruction to do something or to fix something. In that case a note is treated as a Todo. And only in this case a category will be created --Mjchael (talk) 3:50, 25 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Ok I tweaked it a little one thing thought I would like that the note should be obligatory (there is no purpose on having a NOTE without text and today there aren't any notes without a body). The unsigned doesn't work well I have also attempted to use
 * so that the new listings and links on the heading would be optional (this is important since __HIDDENCAT__ is needed on the categories pages). --Panic (talk) 05:45, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
 * PS: Notes are only related to the content not to pending actions by editors. --Panic (talk) 05:47, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Pending issues. C++ Programming/Compiler/Linker/Libraries/Configuring Visual Studio uses one NOTE and I signed it it should be in Category:C++ Programming/Notes not in Category:C++ Programming/Notes/Unsigned and should test if there is a signature and select one of the categories, for what I understand ifeq is needed only to prevent the example to use a category.
 * Using #ifexist: would resolve these redlinks (with the considerations talked above) Help:Starting a new page or book. Read the explanation on the template page (#ifexists could also verify that the user that signed does exits by checking his talk page, since those are generally created first) --Panic (talk) 17:29, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
 * a signatur can be affix by the normal text on the first parameter


 * on many notes a signator isn't needed. So a programming of a signatur-check would complicate these matters unnecessarily. --Mjchael (talk) 21:46, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
 * The idea was to duplicate the functionality of the the TODO (the rational for defending the need for a signer is valid in both for the same reasons), if a need arises and the person who affixed the information needs to be contacted it can be a very complicated task in a busy page (lots of edits), indeed on notes this is less relevant as the person adding the note also must have done some other editing work to be adding a note about a specific exception or related issue that can't be directly included, even so there are instances of that occurring.
 * One should remember that signatures inside the book content should not be acceptable and will create confusion because of the practice of not altering signed posts/comments.
 * Did you attempt anywhere to put #ifexist to work this would also solve that extra load of work you add on the TODO template (you had to create a lot of Category pages), that may or may not be useful (due to the already existing uses of the templates for instance in one book I make extensive use of them but I'm working alone there for years now (The P2P book), that would permit the book communities to make use of the function as they see fit. --Panic (talk) 03:05, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
 * PS: If you don't mind move all this discussion to the Template Talk page, there may be editors that are now out of the loop and see now red links on the top their books. I'm watching there also so to us there shouldn't be a issue and this will also alleviate your talk page. --Panic (talk) 03:05, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
 * I work with the template TODO on the German guitar-book with different volumes of a guitar-school. There I use several parameter for the main book "guitar" the sub-volume "campfire-diploma" my todo-list "mjchael" and sometimes another "co-author". And sometimes it also affects "music-theory" or "songbook". Thus more than one parameter makes sense. Disclosure of an author in the main book is not habit of wiki. This is good manners at the talks. But authors will be identified by the history, ans this should be enough. The TODO-template creates only one category per book, or at the most one more for each sub-volume. And only one category will be created for an user. Thats all, and it's rather easy and comprehensible. The administration is extremely simple, and uncommonly practical. A greater degree of functionality complicates unnecessarily the matter. You must also think of the inexperienced user and author. I fear that every new features could make the template "note" unusable or impractical for each task for whatever they may be used. You should really consider what is actually needed. --Mjchael (talk) 08:43, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

WCI 2011 : Accelerating Wikibooks : Would like to discuss!
Hello!

I will be delivering a Talk at the Wikimedia Conference India 2011 on the topic of "Accelerating Wikibooks".

Over the next few days, I aim to make the proposal more and more wholesome and relevant. I'd like to discuss with you about the proposal and hope you can recommend me a few names on Wikibooks with whom I can discuss this.

I'd be very happy if you could discuss the proposal at User:Thewinster/Accelerating_Wikibooks

--Thewinster (discuss • contribs) 08:20, 26 September 2011 (UTC)

Summary of the proposal
This is not a summary of the final talk, only a tentative guideline.


 * Create Roadmaps for a book
 * Define Learning Outcomes
 * Annotate and Discuss new content available from around the web.
 * Minor tweaks and fixes which concentrate on crowdsourcing.
 * Identifying Small Contribution that advance a book and designing good UIs and triggers according to B.J. Fogg's Behavior Change Model, 8 Step Design Process. The paper can be found here at Persuasive Design : Eight Step Process by B. J. Fogg

Guitar/Campfire Diploma ‎
Hi, Welcome back to the English Wikibook.

I am fairly new here, but happened to be looking at Recent Changes shortly after you posted your edit in Guitar/Campfire Diploma and you immediately got my attention because you are translating a book into English. I have been trying to encourage other contributors to help bring other books to the English Wikibook from other language editions and would be keenly interested in your experience, even though my understanding of music is almost non-existent.

Cheers,


 * Google translation:


 * Willkommen zurück im englischen Wikibook.


 * Ich bin ziemlich neu hier, habe mir aber kurz nach der Veröffentlichung Ihrer Bearbeitung in Guitar/Campfire Diploma die letzten Änderungen angeschaut und bin sofort darauf aufmerksam geworden, weil Sie ein Buch ins Englische übersetzen. Ich habe versucht, andere Mitwirkende zu ermutigen, dabei zu helfen, weitere Bücher aus anderen Sprachausgaben in das englische Wikibook zu bringen, und wäre an Ihrer Erfahrung sehr interessiert, auch wenn ich von Musik kaum etwas verstehe.


 * Prost,

Ottawahitech (discuss • contribs) 00:58, 8 April 2024 (UTC)


 * I'm actually quite an experienced Wikitorian. After all, I have already written the volumes for the guitar course in German. I could also translate the course into English using my own words if the listener is not bothered by my countless mistakes. But I prefer to work with Google Translation. But even with that I can only minimize the biggest errors.
 * I'm curious to see how the acceptance of the guitar course will develop. and whether volunteers can be found to correct the deficiencies in style and spelling and the obvious translation errors.
 * And then last but not least, I hope that the lessons will be supplemented by experienced guitarists and that these supplements will also expand the German Wikibooks.
 * I am translating the course in my free time, alongside my professional obligations. therefore the translation will probably make slow progress.
 * Greetings Mjchael (discuss • contribs) 05:41, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
 * I have finished the campfire diploma to the point where you could work with it. The introduction and the appendices are still missing.
 * It is difficult to sift through the existing texts and align them in such a way that something useful emerges. The already enormous work of the previous authors must by no means be neglected, but how do you bring it together with the grown content of the campfire diploma, which has been corrected and grown by many members from different guitar forums.
 * Without consultation with those currently responsible for the guitar book and further support, it will be difficult.
 * An AI should be able to merge and split two texts, but this should be done by someone who is a native speaker so that they can judge the result. My skills are not sufficient for this.
 * I also see the problem of the wiki syntax, the different templates, the images that still need to be translated. Who will use my Help. Who will translate the German
 * mentoring of Lilypond? Course: Lilypond for wikis
 * How is a single working person with limited English skills supposed to manage all this?
 * I had already helped translate the Wikijunjor book about big cats into German. A whole team worked on this book. My part in this was to revise stylistically the book into language suitable for children. Others checked my corrections.
 * Currently, some syntax errors are being corrected in the guitar book, and missing are being added, although I'm not sure if some of them are bots.  Be that as it may, I can't imagine that my translations with the translation tools are so good that they don't need revision.
 * As a lone fighter, I will soon run out of steam. I can only go to the trouble of building up a social network (guitar forums) that directly or indirectly support the project in one country. This is how it worked with the German Wikibooks guitar book. But I simply can't afford to familiarize myself with the peculiarities and sensitivities of foreign-language social networks. I tried it, but it was a failure. I miss too many subtleties (just like some of the rougher things).
 * I say this in connection with the planned Wikimedia_Language_engineering/Community_meetings at 31_May_2024
 * I will not be attending. No time. No desire to install the necessary software. Even more discussions, even more work, even more queries? It's just too much.
 * But perhaps this brief summary will be useful for something after all. Mjchael (discuss • contribs) 20:56, 15 May 2024 (UTC)

Lints reverts, and lack of comptetnce on my part..
Clearly not my morning :(... Thank you being patient, unlike some other contributors.

I'm considering if I should just quietly withdraw from editing entirely. ShakespeareFan00 (discuss • contribs) 07:00, 5 June 2024 (UTC)

https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/ShakespeareFan00 I reverted a lot of my delint and repair efforts recently,  for context see - https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Wikibooks:Reading_room/Technical_Assistance#United_States_Postage_Meter_Stamp_Catalog/GROUP_PPS_%E2%80%93_Private_Parcel_Service_stamps

The thing is I apparently lack the levels of competence to even do clean reverts, as I said I'm wondering if I should just give up completely, and ask someone for mentiopring assitance in cleaning up the problems. ShakespeareFan00 (discuss • contribs) 07:10, 5 June 2024 (UTC)


 * It seems to me that you were completely exhausted. If you had had enough sleep, you would not have made such mistakes - or at least not to the same extent. You certainly don't have to completely stop working on the project, just stop working in the time when you are unable to concentrate or highly distracted or when you are not well rested. --Mjchael (discuss • contribs) 07:19, 5 June 2024 (UTC)


 * BTW Any assistance you have the time to provide in "reinstatment" of stable repairs, and other deliniting efforts would of course be greatly appreciated. You say you have HTML5 experience, that would be incredibly useful. Elswhere there are templates like small/top small/end, big,big/top, big/end , strike/top, strike/end, font/top , font/end, center/top, center/end that can be used to resolve more than a couple of the so termed 'misnesting' uses of what in HTML5 are nominally intended for SPAN based content, but which on Wikibooks are used in block based ways.  Some of them I made to meet that use case.   Most of the repairs are present in the edit histories, and can be retrived, but having a second or third person confiriming their stability would of course be greatly appreciated. ShakespeareFan00 (discuss • contribs) 07:26, 5 June 2024 (UTC)

I am still going to possibly cease editing on Wikibooks, once current concerns have been resolved. ShakespeareFan00 (discuss • contribs) 07:26, 5 June 2024 (UTC)


 * I translate the German Folkdiploma into English. Besides that, I give the German pages a makeover (mostly the red pen). But we have not all the same templates. I cannot afford to learn all the English templates (except the most important ones). The workload would be overwhelming. I do everything on the side, so my time is limited. Mjchael (discuss • contribs) 07:38, 5 June 2024 (UTC)


 * Well if you can think of someone I could ask, let me know.. otherwise you are clearly overloaded already. ShakespeareFan00 (discuss • contribs) 09:13, 5 June 2024 (UTC)