User talk:Mike.lifeguard/Archive 6



Foundations Wikibook: blanking pages
Hello Mike,

I have blanked pages to erase the rating buttons. We have done this in the past to prevent students from rating an article that does not exist. All of our articles should have been posted by now, so this is usually when we take the buttons out. Would you like me to keep the category line? Sorry for the confusion! Jkauf007 19:34, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
 * No, there's no need to leave anything. In the future, instead of blanking the pages, simply add at the top of the page to alert an admin that the pages are to be deleted. You can also leave a note on an admin's talk page letting them know that the deletions are pending, so they'll get to it faster. – Mike.lifeguard  &#124; talk 21:18, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
 * When I'm back at the computer for longer, I'll go back over the pages you blanked and delete them. – Mike.lifeguard  &#124; talk 21:19, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

Re:Bots
I'm decently sure your AWB can do admin tasks (i'm not certain as I'm not very familiar with that program). There are other users who I know do have admin-scripts, and other admins that I suspect but who have never announced the fact publicly. Either way, it's not a bad thing. If the community doesnt want this, we will make a policy against it. Otherwise, I think it's perfectly fine. --Whiteknight (Page) (Talk) 00:19, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
 * It can, but it's patchy at detecting admin status, and even when it detects it properly it doesn't work (mostly). I don't even know if they've figured out what the problem is. – Mike.lifeguard  &#124; talk 00:20, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

IPs
Trade secret (& actually nothing to do with CU) but you do have mail :) -- Herby talk thyme 17:54, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
 * spotting the edit on az's page and not having seen them for a bit, there is a sense in which they need blocking but I have no idea how up to date the lists are. The issue is that IP addresses can be quite a fluid thing as I'm sure you know -  that is why I now only block for a year.  The fact they were an open proxy/zombie does not mean that they still are (particularly zombies as they may be fixed).  Do you use Firefox?  If so Az (& I) both have some quite useful monobook stuff and I know AZ's contains some scripting for the OP list.  Let me know if you want - cheers -- Herby  talk thyme 13:14, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Well I don't really know how fresh "fresh" is, but if we just block for a bit less, I think it'd be a go. If we would have blocked for 1 year at the time they were discovered, then blocking for 8 months (or whatever) now is basically the same effect. You'll have to point out which part(s) of the .js are what I'm looking for. – Mike.lifeguard  &#124; talk 13:43, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
 * I think I figured out the right part of your .js. The block link provided by has an expiry time of indefinite. If we just change the template, we (I; I shouldn't speak for you) could block the rest for 8 months(?) with an inordinate but not outrageous expenditure of time. Would that be kosher? (copied to your talk) – Mike.lifeguard  &#124; talk 20:32, 19 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Apologies Mike, been a bit busy. You seem to be ahead of me!  All I know is that if you click on "block" on IPs on that list it all gets filled in!  I guess my answer would be "try it", change the template to something else and try one.  A year doesn't bother me (& I think Derbeth is still doing 5 years) but longer seems a bit silly - things will change and they can always be blocked again.  I think I'll continue to pick up ones that are actually in use on the projects for now.


 * On monobook stuff feel free to look at the Jsimlo/shortcuts.js bit in mine. I find it so useful to have my own links (that I can never find) somewhere easy to get to.  Get back to me if you have queries. Cheers -- Herby  talk thyme 11:26, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

Re: Page names
Mike, sorry for my negligence. I have marked these pages with delete|unneeded redirect tags so they can be deleted. Thanks! Circuit-fantasist 15:46, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks! I will do that now. – Mike.lifeguard  &#124; talk 17:53, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

Yes help GFDL
French/Appendices/Pronunciation index only tables from wikipedia.--Mig77 16:54, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Sorry; I don't understand what you're asking. – Mike.lifeguard  &#124; talk 17:54, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

Plainlinks
I'm moderately curious, it seems you imported it from en.wikipedia only I don't see any pages here on wikibooks that link to it, what is it being used for?-- VectorPotential Talk 19:32, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Now that I've had a quick glance at my contributions, I see that you imported AWBuser as well, which explains why you would have needed plainlinks. -- VectorPotential Talk 19:36, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

Re: Note on my talk page
Hi, just to let you know, I am logged in. This is my account. : ) Thanks for the note! Doodledoo 22:39, 19 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Heehee, thanks. God, that's happened to me so many times welcoming people at the Wikipedia... Doodledoo 22:43, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
 * As an editor coming from WP, you You may find WB:WFW helpful. If there's something that's missing or incorrect, please let us know. We're trying to get this up to snuff so our friends from WP can get a quick primer on how things work differently here. – Mike.lifeguard  &#124; <font color="Indigo">talk 22:46, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Looks fine. Simple but forceful. Due to my lack of expertise, I've been mostly contributing to Cookbook anyway, but I might get started into Wikjunior eventually. Thanks! Doodledoo 22:53, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

How do I talk?
I'd like to message/Pm another member. I can't see how to do it. The users link is here. http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/User:ThreeE However there are no options to send a message that I can make out. This might be the right way to contact you either, so sorry for that, but at the moment the simple thing of how to communicate is not at all obvious. E5ricky 21:28, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Normally we communicate through the User talk: pages; that's what they're for. You can just leave a message on their page. If you want to, you can try to email them. There is a link in the sidebar when you're looking at their User: or User talk: page that says Email this user. If they have enabled email, you will get a form that will send off an email to the address they provided. Hope that helps! – <font color="Indigo">Mike.lifeguard  &#124; <font color="Indigo">talk 21:46, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
 * As well, you can make links without using the URL. To link to the page you gave me above, just put the title of the page inside double square brackets. User:ThreeE produces the link User:ThreeE; you can modify what the text says with a piped link like this: ThreeE produces the link with modified text: ThreeE. – <font color="Indigo">Mike.lifeguard  &#124; <font color="Indigo">talk 21:48, 20 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Thanks for those tips. By users talk you mean the Discussion tab? :unsure: E5ricky 22:26, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Yes, that's it. I call it the User talk: page because when you click the Discussion tab, the title of that page actually begins with "User talk:" - not "Discussion". – <font color="Indigo">Mike.lifeguard  &#124; <font color="Indigo">talk 22:52, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

Bot edit for "Opening theory in chess"
Hi Mike, Can you use your bot to help with as much of the following as possible. Applies to all pages within Opening theory in chess

1) Can you use your bots to change all the chess boards displays from the old 'chess position' to the new chess diagram.

Old style is yellow green and doesn't look professional the new style would also be good to have th position name 'Ware opening in this example at the top.

2) can you change occurances of '=Theory Table=' to '==Theory Table=='

3) Can you move any page in Opening theory in chess where the page URL have three periods('...') in them, the URL is changes to remove the period plus it's proceeding number. The three periods often occur multiple times(after every black move) Example URL's http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Opening_theory_in_chess/1._e4/1...e5/2._Nf3/2...Nc6/3._Bc4/3...Nf6/4._Ng5/4...d5/5._exd5/5...Nxd5/6._d4/6...Bb4/7._c3/7...Be7/8._Nxf7/8...Kxf7/9._Qf3/9...Ke6 Goes to http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Opening_theory_in_chess/1._e4/e5/2._Nf3/Nc6/3._Bc4/Nf6/4._Ng5/d5/5._exd5/Nxd5/6._d4/Bb4/7._c3/Be7/8._Nxf7/Kxf7/9._Qf3/Ke6

4) If you can get part 3) to work then also change any occurances in the page code of '...' remove the three periods and the proceeding number. eg </4...d5> goes to </d5> Thanks E5ricky 17:28, 21 October 2007 (UTC)


 * 1) Can probably be done. I'll have to take a closer look at how the chessboards are constructed (ie. which tiles match up; from there it is a simple replacement).
 * 2) Easy
 * 3) and 4) Complex page moves would have do be done manually unless you can get User:tsca.bot (operated by m:user talk:tsca) to take care of it.
 * – <font color="Indigo">Mike.lifeguard  &#124; <font color="Indigo">talk 17:49, 21 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Okay, can you see about doing 1 and 2. Seems maybe myself and whiteknight will do 3 and 4 manually as User:tsca.bot page says, 'due to the lack of time the bot is unable to complete any requests until further notice' E5ricky 18:19, 21 October 2007 (UTC)


 * I hate to do this to you but "due to the lack of time..." It's going to have to wait till at least the end of the week. Ask me again then if I don't remember. – <font color="Indigo">Mike.lifeguard  &#124; <font color="Indigo">talk 19:56, 21 October 2007 (UTC)


 * The board colours have changed! Well awesome. Thanks if it was you Mike. E5ricky 21:04, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
 * The letters and numbers (around the site) don't match the squares now, but glad something has been done. E5ricky 21:21, 21 October 2007 (UTC)


 * The letters and numbers now match the squares! My lucky day :D E5ricky 22:51, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
 * lol. Congrats, but I take no credit. I've been AFK for the afternoon. – <font color="Indigo">Mike.lifeguard  &#124; <font color="Indigo">talk 23:45, 21 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Hey mike, just to let you know, i'm getting a lot of the work here done by my bot this evening. Once I get done, i'll update the list, and let you know what still needs to be done. Hopefully, there won't be much! --Whiteknight (Page) (Talk) 23:49, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

Just to keep everything together...I changed the template to the way it is now. I made all arguments optional, in which case you get an empty board with 24x24 squires. I also used different images with a transparent background so the color of the light and dark squires can be optionally changed, and made it so an optional description can be displayed underneath the board. --<span style="font: bold 10pt 'courier new', comic, sans, ms;"><font color="midnightblue">dark lama  00:13, 22 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Thank you Darklama, the boards now somehow look professional and with the size bigger then the wikipedia one, the revised 'Chess position' template is my favourite. E5ricky 00:19, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

random
delete ppls ip address its confendential —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 99.235.0.136 (talk • contribs) 22:15, October 24, 2007.


 * Actually, they're not. If you want to hide your IP address, you can register an account here. – <font color="Indigo">Mike.lifeguard  &#124; <font color="Indigo">talk 22:56, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the Welcome
Thanks for the welcome. I appreciate the link that described what Wikibooks is. Do you have any advice for a newbie like me? Thanks for your help. P.S. I like your userbox about cold weather. Sociology 23:46, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Well, if you're coming from Wikipedia, WB:WFW might be useful. Otherwise, just go for it. If you're not sure, ask someone (WB:HELP is useful). Good luck, and post again if you need something! – <font color="Indigo">Mike.lifeguard  &#124; <font color="Indigo">talk 23:48, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

Hum
I'm sure you will see it but just in case? Cheers -- Herby talk thyme 07:12, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
 * I saw it, but what am I supposed to make of that? – <font color="Indigo">Mike.lifeguard  &#124; <font color="Indigo">talk 20:47, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

Featured books logo proposal
Hi Mike, could you check out Wikibooks talk:Featured books? I noted that it'd be really easy to change the font. Doodledoo 21:28, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

Acetone Peroxide
What is the reason for the deletion of the acetone peroxide page? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.198.52.234 (discuss • contribs)
 * There was a discussion at WB:VFD which resulted in a consensus to delete. This was done in accordance with Deletion policy. – <font color="Indigo">Mike.lifeguard  &#124; <font color="Indigo">talk 23:45, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for your help
Appreciate your clarification edit at Counterterror_Joint_Command It's very nice to make your acquaintance. My previous definition of terrorism is broader in scope due to the fact that conclusive categorization comes after the fact and because the wide range of conditions special tactics terror interdiction teams respond to is always a current process. I find that the definition you are using is succinct, more understandable and more specific in nature. Upon close examination you will find the only real difference between definitions is the exclusive perrogative of some conditions, which is taken as inclusive in the previous terminology. There are specific circumstances, such as the intent and preplanning of perpetrating extensive damage, which may not necessarily originate from a sub-state entity, and a symbolic action being so because the magnitude of weapons support is inferior may be presumption and unascertainable. This comes from 23 years as Tactical Chief Instructor over this specific type of operation. My comments here are not meant to be argumentative. Just some food for thought and conversation with my sincere acknowlegement of your content. Chrismar 22:02, 28 October 2007 (UTC)chrismar Thanks
 * I think the language used is also far more clear than what had previously been written. As soon as I saw "Terrorism is a syndrome of fear from a deliberate non-conventional act of violence..." I knew it had to be re-written. I was going to use the US Army's definition, but I couldn't immediately find it. As well, it's not very reader-friendly; Louise Robert's is easy to understand, and is comprehensive. I added the sub-state designation because her work focuses on sub-state terrorism. For state-level terrorism, symbolism isn't nearly as important since states are significantly more powerful. The differences in definition, whatever they may be, between state- and sub-state levels of terrorism are not relevant since this book deals (apparently) exclusively with sub-state terrorism directed against the West. I'd like to see that scope change, however, since we all know that's not the only kind, and isn't even the most pervasive kind. Room for expansion in the future.
 * While I understand that you feel a particular expertise, all content in Wikibooks must be verifiable, which is why if I continue editing that book, it'll be mostly adding views from published (peer-reviewed, if possible) academics and specialists in the field, rather than (maybe) more practical ground-level experiences. I'm glad to see that you're feeling no ownership over this Wikibook. Remember, all content submitted here is GFDL-licensed and will be edited mercilessly and distributed at will :) Best regards. – <font color="Indigo">Mike.lifeguard  &#124; <font color="Indigo">talk 23:52, 28 October 2007 (UTC)


 * It behooves us all to contribute without ownership or self-importance, and to concentrate on expanding knowledge as the foundation of character as well as the implementation of skill sets. Your insights bring consistency through verification. My particular expertise is the integration of combat systems through a unifying protocol and administrating the relevant technical and operational foundation. Being the founder of this protocol I also author the media and field manuals as well as the training structure which has had influence over tactical policy multi-nationally and on a state-level. Since our discussion does relate to the integration of greater infrastructural integrity for crisis containment perhaps more emphasis can be put on Network Security Management as well as Service levels Intelligence and configuration as part of the solution. These concepts are also instrumental to secure systems. I mention this in order to offer some food for thought which may already be part of your wide range of references. I am led to better understand your good intent. Thanks Mike. Chrismar 17:04, 29 October 2007 (UTC)chrismar

Muggles' Guide: Reversion of Grindelwald edit
I'm not entirely sure that the edit about Grindelwald's and Dumbledore's being in love should be classed as vandalism. It is a fact; Rowling herself said so, and it does clarify a lot of things about their relationship. However: it is also true that there is a specific note there saying that all discussion of sexuality is in a specific place in the article, one that our editor must have seen but clearly chose to ignore. While reversion was, in fact, the right thing to do, I'm not sure that marking it as vandalism was correct; perhaps a better choice is to say "thanks for visiting, your test has been removed." No? Chazz (talk) 01:17, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Well, it may not technically be vandalism, so I'll change the wording in that warning template (which, I might add was, which doesn't use the word "vandalism"). The edit appeared directly previous to a hidden comment that that sort of thing doesn't belong on that page, which I assume was placed after the authors of the book came to that consensus, hence my reversion. – <font color="Indigo">Mike.lifeguard  &#124; <font color="Indigo">talk 01:53, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Hmm. You're right, it doesn't; it only says "inappropriate", I was misled by the big red stop sign. No, the rewording looks excellent; I hope it is only this single instance, rather than throughout, because not many books are likely to end up with that sort of embedded comment. I started putting those in because of the high incidence of randoms editing the Muggles' Guide, particularly since the revelations about Dumbledore's sexuality, which seemed to titillate so many people. And yes, I only started putting those in when we seemed to have consensus. Chazz (talk) 03:08, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

Psychiatric Rehabilitation and Recovery
On the category issue, sorry that may have been my mistake on the wiki category, I was wondering about the bookshelf placement issue for Psychiatric Rehabilitation and Recovery; being the at University of Illnois, Boston University and University of Medicine of Dentistry of New Jersey; the subject of Psychiatric Rehabilitation is considered to be of different subject categories. I believe that UofI its a social work practice; BU it is rehabilitation services, and UMDNJ considers it a medical intervention or some aspect of...(Although I personally feel it should be a behavior or social science; as my user name may suggest, but for the purpose of this wikibook I am trying to stick the facts as they are taught in the trainings and courses, I attend). I appreciate your assistance, thanks.--Recoverypsychology 14:07, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
 * You're welcome to categorize it in all of those places. I recommend, however, that you take a look the the Subject: pages (you can start at WB:AS). If you categorize the book page in a category which has the same name as a Subject: page, it will automatically show up there. If you need help to harness this functionality, don't hesitate to ask. – <font color="Indigo">Mike.lifeguard  &#124; <font color="Indigo">talk 15:57, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

Artificial Neural Networks
I saw on your user page that you're studying neuroscience. I've just created a new book, Artificial Neural Networks based on a research paper i've been writing on that topic. Is this an area of interest for you? If so, I would love some help. Let me know! --Whiteknight (Page) (Talk) 17:10, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
 * I don't know much about the topic (yet) but I'll keep an eye peeled for stuff I can add, and I might contribute in the future. – <font color="Indigo">Mike.lifeguard  &#124; <font color="Indigo">talk 18:25, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

Hebrew/History
Thanks, Mike.lifeguard for the correction on the name of this page! And, thanks for the other repairs you've made on the Hebrew WikiBook and others! -CocoaZen 23:19, 4 November 2007 (UTC)