User talk:Mike.lifeguard/Archive 5



AWB run through what links here pages
Could you run AWB through all "what links here" pages of the templates located in Category:User warning templates and subst any use of the template on user talk pages? There are a lot of them. --dark lama  23:35, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Good idea. In progress. – Mike.lifeguard  &#124; talk 00:37, 4 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Not every single template in existence needs to be subst'ed. I rolled back some of your bot's subst of unsigned on pages I got in my watchlist, but there are probably a million other places unsigned is too used. --dark lama  18:04, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
 * I thought it made sense to substitute - should it not be? If there's some functionality that's broken by substituting it, I'll undo all those edits. I apologize if substituting that template was a mistake. Were any others substituted that should not have been? – Mike.lifeguard  &#124; talk 20:46, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
 * I guess we disagree there. Thats the only one that I saw that I thought didn't need to be done and didn't serve any purpose in doing. I don't think its normally substited. I know I never have. --dark lama  21:35, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Bot Flag
Just to let you know, i've given your bot an emergency flag for the duration of your job. Let me know when you are finished so I can take it off again. We can start a discussion on RFA about getting you the flag on a more permanent basis, especially now that we've seen a demonstration of what it is capable of. --Whiteknight (Page) (Talk) 01:29, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Sure thing. – Mike.lifeguard  &#124; talk 01:32, 4 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Thanks! you did a good job tonight, you and your bot are a formidable team! When are you going to get back to work? If there is a lot more to do and you intend to get back to it soon, maybe you should keep the flag for a little bit longer. No sense cluttering the logs unnecessarily if you are just going to be getting it back anyway. --Whiteknight (Page) (Talk) 02:09, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
 * I'll probably finish tomorrow afternoon after my tutorial. I'll keep it till after that run than? – Mike.lifeguard  &#124; talk 04:00, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Got time for another run on WV?
A bigger one this time :).
 * 1) Following v:Category:BCP/SEPA/1, please replace with
 * 2) Following v:Category:BCP/SEPA/3, please replace with
 * 3) Following v:Category:BCP/SEPA/4, please replace with
 * 4) Following v:Category:BCP/SEPA/5, please replace with
 * 5) Following v:Category:BCP/SEPA/6, please replace with
 * 6) Following v:Category:BCP/SEPA/7, please replace with
 * 7) Following v:Category:BCP/SEPA/8, please replace with
 * 8) Following v:Category:BCP/SEPA/9, please replace with

The templates are currently set to re-categorize all those pages into v:Category:BCP/SEPA/temp, so you can track progress by checking to see if the numbered categories are empty.
 * 1) Following v:Category:BCP/SEPA/GP, please replace with
 * 2) Following v:Category:BCP/SEPA/NP, please replace with
 * 3) Following v:Category:BCP/SEPA/IP, please replace with

(There are no plants in v:Category:BCP/SEPA/2, and v:Category:BCP/SEPA/10 already uses a template)

I'll be mostly AFK for the next few days, so if there's a problem, I might take a bit to get back to you. Thanks in advance! -- SB_Johnny | PA! 10:55, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
 * ✅ – Mike.lifeguard  &#124; <font color="Indigo">talk 00:47, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

query notice
I like it Mike but could we make the name shorter? I can type qr-em blindfold but maybe not a longer one!! Cheers -- Herby talk thyme 15:55, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Feel free to rename leaving a redirect, or create a redirect from whatever you want. I prefer things that are easy to remember, which usually means full words. – <font color="Indigo">Mike.lifeguard  &#124; <font color="Indigo">talk 15:57, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

Deleted?
Hello. I'm sorry if I am bugging you, but why was "Skateboarding" deleted? I don't see how that is not suitable for Wikibooks. Fruit Boy 01:19, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
 * It certainly doesn't look like a topic that could ever form a textbook. I've restored it for you; please lay out the organizational structure of the book to clarify it's scope, audience etc. Please review WB:WIW to guide the process so you can create a textbook as opposed to an encyclopedia article. – <font color="Indigo">Mike.lifeguard  &#124; <font color="Indigo">talk 01:40, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

copyright problems...
hi, I got a few mails from you concerning copyright problems of some pictures I uploaded on: http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Cognitive_Psychology_and_Cognitive_Neuroscience/Reasoning_and_Decision_Making

I just changed the picture information of the pictures and I hope this is allright now. please write me back if there are still problems with any of the pictures on this site...thank you. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Maltewoest (talk • contribs) 12:43, October 7, 2007.

Same book as mentioned above: Thanks a lot for changing the image into a wikitable.... I didn't know how to do that. Nevertheless, we also got a "permission" by the Author of the book we refer to, although he does not hold the copyrights. greets Jherding 15:36, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
 * FYI: Permission must come from the copyright holder. If you need other images of text converted to tables etc. just let me know. Also, if any images with unknown license information get deleted, leaving redlinks in your book, that were text, please let me know so I can rebuild the content. – <font color="Indigo">Mike.lifeguard  &#124; <font color="Indigo">talk 15:41, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

ETC
Might be a class project I think - cheers -- Herby talk thyme 18:00, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Thx. I'll keep an eye on it & will give some extra time – <font color="Indigo">Mike.lifeguard  &#124; <font color="Indigo">talk 18:02, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

Re:mbox
Fixed the problem through a little sluthing. On wikiversity, the "metadata" CSS class was defined as "display: none" To solve the problem, i simply removed the metadata class from the template. Should work fine now, but you may want to double-check that all the images used by the template are properly uploaded to wikiversity (or new images be specified). --Whiteknight (Page) (Talk) 02:56, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Yes, images were next on my list to check. Thanks for the debug. – <font color="Indigo">Mike.lifeguard  &#124; <font color="Indigo">talk 02:58, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

Re:Image
No, i never was able to get concrete information about this particular image. Here is what I do know: The image was licensed for use in the online ebook. Before being donated to Wikibooks, I told the owners of that ebook to ensure all text and images were released under a suitable license. They told me this has happened, and they uploaded the text and images. However, I have not received any "evidence" that this particular image has been released by it's author for use on Wikibooks (especially since this same image is listed as being copywritten on another website). I dont know what to make of it, we could assume it is properly licensed (which it very well may be), or we can assume it is not licensed because we have no proof of it. --Whiteknight (Page) (Talk) 20:42, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Well it's not being used anyways, so I'm deleting it. If it is licensed appropriately, they can re-upload it with the info. – <font color="Indigo">Mike.lifeguard  &#124; <font color="Indigo">talk 20:44, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

What do you mean?
Are you saying I should put more on the page before submitting it? What do you mean? I don't exactly understand "big words" yet. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Fruit Boy (talk • contribs) 22:15, October 10, 2007.
 * I deleted it initially because it's not a textbook, and I don't think it ever will be. As it stands now, it could be speedily deleted. Please give an organizational structure (outline) for the book so I know whether what you're planning fits within project scope. This is all explained on your talk page already, and uses no "big words." Please remember to sign your posts with 4 tildes ( ~ ) – <font color="Indigo">Mike.lifeguard  &#124; <font color="Indigo">talk 01:18, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I contribute to wikiHow, so It's hard getting used to the way everyone contributes here. But I think I understand it now. Fruit Boy 18:09, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

Next victims... :)
It's New Hampshire's turn... the templates are turning out to be much better than the categories. Not as many months or plants this time, but here's the list: I'll turn off the categorization in the templates for now so the bot doesn't get false positives. You can check results using v:Category:BCP/Flora of New Hampshire. Thanks again!
 * 1) Following v:Category:BCP/NHAMP/7, please replace with
 * 2) Following v:Category:BCP/NHAMP/8, please replace with
 * 3) Following v:Category:BCP/NHAMP/9, please replace with
 * 4) Following v:Category:BCP/NHAMP/10, please replace with

BTW, I'll flag your account here now (as bot, not as sysop), as there don't seem to be any strong objections. -- SB_Johnny | PA! 09:06, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks. This will have to wait till later today; I have an exam I need to cram for :P – <font color="Indigo">Mike.lifeguard  &#124; <font color="Indigo">talk 14:37, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
 * ✅ - I needed a break. Please double-check BCP/Hamamelis virginiana & BCP/Prunella vulgaris, as I did those by hand. – <font color="Indigo">Mike.lifeguard  &#124; <font color="Indigo">talk 15:55, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

Wikimedia How To Book
Hello Mike.lifeguard!

Thanks for your help, but I think that you misunderstood me.

I was trying to make a clever subtitle to clarify my meaning, but obviously it didn't work.

I was making a request for a wikibook about advanced template usage. Yes I know that you have a page on this topic. I was asking for a book because it is a different format than a wiki and I thought that it would be easier to understand than to surf for content.

However if it isn't in Wikibook's policy to make wikibooks about wikimedia, then forget about it. Thanks RH Rozzychan 21:48, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
 * I did misunderstand you. We have a book here you may be interested in contributing to. – <font color="Indigo">Mike.lifeguard  &#124; <font color="Indigo">talk 22:00, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

Hardcore vandals
If someone is leaving swastikas all over the place, please block them indef. That guy hit a number of other projects too... your friendly neighborhood checkusers are on the prowl now. -- SB_Johnny | PA! 00:02, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Only too happy to do just that! – <font color="Indigo">Mike.lifeguard  &#124; <font color="Indigo">talk 00:03, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
 * OK. Keep in mind that if someone obviously knows what they're doing and is up to no good, it's better to just be rid of them. Not that they won't be back shortly with another account, but you'd feel awfully silly if someone came back from a brief block and went at it again :). When it's an attack account like that, you might also want to send an email to me or herby for cross-wiki tracking. -- SB_Johnny | PA! 00:15, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Sure thing. As well, would you educate me on the open proxies thing at meta? I see these links all over the block logs, but the page linked doesn't really explain anything useful. – <font color="Indigo">Mike.lifeguard  &#124; <font color="Indigo">talk 00:17, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

I would suggest reading WB:DWV to understand when it may be a good idea to block indef or not. --<span style="font: bold 10pt 'courier new', comic, sans, ms;"><font color="midnightblue">dark lama  00:20, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

UNDP-APDIP images
I do not have permission notification to provide you regarding the popealien image. However, as per my discussion with Whiteknight, he placed a message in my user profile that enables me to upload information using the Creative Common Attributes license. I believe this would enable me to use the copyright image as the publications are the property of the owner (i.e. UNDP-APDIP)? Thanks. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Sjjupadhyay (talk • contribs) 23:29, October 11, 2007.
 * That declaration is fine. I'll undelete the image imminently. – <font color="Indigo">Mike.lifeguard  &#124; <font color="Indigo">talk 02:31, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

Categorization Script
I see you're trying out my categorization script. All my scripts are works in progress, so let me know if there is a problem, or a missing feature, or anything else. --Whiteknight (Page) (Talk) 14:17, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
 * The only thing I can think of (which may or may not be possible/feasible) is to create a tool to put books onto Subject: pages. It would have to run off a list of current pages in that namespace somehow, so you don't try to put it on nonexistent pages. You'd choose a top-level subject, then follow it down into the hierarchy (along multiple paths, since many/most books belong on multiple Subject: pages) and choose pages for it to show up on. Then the output would be, which can then get added to the bottom of the book page. – <font color="Indigo">Mike.lifeguard  &#124; <font color="Indigo">talk 15:25, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

User block
Looking around Mike you may want to make that indef. Vandal source across wikis and accounts created on books before for vandalism - up to you - cheers -- Herby talk thyme 17:09, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

Blocking guideline
You should publicize the vote on the Reading Rooms and change the required pages to mirror the new status of the proposal, by moving to enforce I take it you wish to make the guideline a policy (you should probably word it clearly). I have added information on the version you are moving to enforce on the talk page. --Panic 17:56, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the reminder. I added a notice at WB:BB. This is a proposed guideline, and, if enforced, would be a guideline (not a policy) as is clearly stated in the template on page's title and in my move to enforce. – <font color="Indigo">Mike.lifeguard  &#124; <font color="Indigo">talk 18:06, 12 October 2007 (UTC)


 * See Policies and guidelines/Vote also... It would have been probably more productive ,if you had asked first for any objection before starting the pool again. I haven't checked yet your changes yet, did you address some of the points raised earlier ? (I voted in favor last time)   --Panic 18:26, 12 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Yes, I saw that. That's why I took a look at the proposed guideline, made 1 minor change and moved to enforce it. I think all the concerns have already been addressed on the talk page, including those in the archive. The only outstanding issue I could envision being a sticking point is that of sock puppets. In that case, there seems to be a consensus that a)this is a guideline, so there's room for leeway and b)blocking would apply to bad faith sockpuppets of the type mentioned - those used for astroturfing, evading blocks, violating policies or guidelines in some other way. As well, the wording on "be bold" seems reasonably clear - blocking is not a place to be bold. Admins should not change another admin's block with the usual exceptions. Finally, a guideline on cross-wiki vandalism was added, which addresses the issue nicely, IMHO. I'd rather see discussion of the proposal take place on it's talk page instead of here, however. If you have concerns with it, make them known in the appropriate location. – <font color="Indigo">Mike.lifeguard  &#124; <font color="Indigo">talk 18:36, 12 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Even if you don't intent to use the other location, shouldn't you indicate more or less the same information (especially the very important end date for the voting) ? --Panic 19:27, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
 * What end date? – <font color="Indigo">Mike.lifeguard  &#124; <font color="Indigo">talk 19:29, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
 * For the pool and confirming the outcome... --Panic 19:35, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

reset I assume you mean that there should be some particular end date for voting and discussion? I don't think that's the case. If you like, add some end date, but I intend to discuss and make changes toward achieving consensus until we succeed or fail - not until some arbitrary deadline. Decision making makes no mention of deadlines, so I see no need. – <font color="Indigo">Mike.lifeguard  &#124; <font color="Indigo">talk 19:39, 12 October 2007 (UTC)


 * It is not so black and white. But check out the the previous votes to see how we have done them so far, setting a limiting date is useful to determine non opposition or force people to get involved and take action if the decission is pending against their wishes. --Panic 19:45, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Then be bold. – <font color="Indigo">Mike.lifeguard  &#124; <font color="Indigo">talk 19:46, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Done. --Panic 19:59, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

Image:Game theory.JPG
I don't understand, what do you expect me to do with these images? --Derbeth talk 10:40, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
 * You had restored them so license info could be added "to create a free-licensed equivalent". I wanted to double-check with you before deleting them. – <font color="Indigo">Mike.lifeguard  &#124; <font color="Indigo">talk 15:14, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
 * I have just deleted them. User, who wanted to create such equivalents, hasn't made any edits for a long time. --Derbeth talk 09:25, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

Poor little lost Gregorovitch
Read the note on Withinfocus' page. I've marked that speedy, and am now in the process of creating a real page in the Muggles' Guide for Gregorovitch. Chazz (talk) 18:59, 13 October 2007 (UTC)