User talk:Lwan98/Archives-2007q2

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Quantum Leap
Places I've been (yeah, there's Contributions).
 * http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Adventist_Youth_Honors_Answer_Book/Nature/Antelopes_-_Advanced
 * http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Adventist_Youth_Honors_Answer_Book/Vocational/Accounting
 * http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Adventist_Youth_Honors_Answer_Book/Vocational/Radio
 * http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Adventist_Youth_Honors_Answer_Book/Vocational/Upholstery
 * http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Adventist_Youth_Honors_Answer_Book/Arts_and_Crafts/Plastic_Canvas
 * http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Adventist_Youth_Honors_Answer_Book/Nature/Grasses
 * http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Adventist_Youth_Honors_Answer_Book/Vocational/Christian_Sales_Principles
 * http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Adventist_Youth_Honors_Answer_Book/Arts_and_Crafts/Glass_Painting


 * http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Adventist_Youth_Honors_Answer_Book/Nature/Herbs (7)
 * http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Adventist_Youth_Honors_Answer_Book/Recreation/Triathlon (3)
 * http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Adventist_Youth_Honors_Answer_Book/Health_and_Science/Chemistry (1)

No. Thanks. Really? It's all madness. Seriously.
 * http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Adventist_Youth_Honors_Answer_Book/Vocational/Paperhanging (0)
 * * http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Adventist_Youth_Honors_Answer_Book/Recreation/Camping_Skills_III (0)
 * http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Adventist_Youth_Honors_Answer_Book/Vocational/Shorthand (0)

Cacti Thanks
Thanks for your contributions to the Adventist Youth Honors Answer Book/Nature/Cacti Cacti honor. It's very nice to have input like yours. If you have any questions at all, drop me a note on my Talk page. Thanks again! -- Jomegat 14:02, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

You're welcome. ~lw


 * Hi lw,
 * I noticed you just uploaded a picture of a cactus. That's a good thing and all, but it would be better to upload that sort of thing to commons.wikimedia.org so that it can be used by other projects as well (such as Wikipedia).  The only pictures I upload to wikibooks are ones that are "free use" or not generally applicable to other projects.  Thanks again for all your work on the book!  --Jomegat 01:44, 22 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Grrrr! And I thought I was doing good. Oh well - another thing learned today! ;> ~lw 01:55, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Don't get down on yourself. I uploaded about a dozen pictures to Wikibooks before anyone clued me in.  Also, this is a very minor thing.  There are lots of photos on Wikipedia that are not in the commons.  I've migrated several.  --Jomegat 02:08, 22 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Ooooooh! This is going to help me greatly! Now I don't have to agonize over 'taking' photos and releasing them into the PD. Commons will do just fine. I'd taken a photo today to exhibit 'panning' for the Photography honor, but you already beat me to it. ~lw 02:58, 22 May 2007 (UTC)


 * It's kinda hard to find those kinds of photos on the commons because they are organized and categorized by what's in the picture rather than by photography technique - that is, you can't really search for "blurry background" or "rule of thirds." I had to try to imagine a picture that might demonstrate the effect and search for that.  I searched for "runner" for one and "mountain" on the other.  Oh - one other thing.  When you think an honor is finished (cacti?) please go ahead and edit the index pages (i.e., mark Adventist Youth Honors Answer Book/Nature as 100% and add the finished honor to the list on the front page.  If you like, you should also announce that it's finished on the PF forum (which I see you have joined, assuming there is only one lwan98 in the world). -- Jomegat 14:48, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

Printing

 * Waiting for input from my printing contacts to finish up #5. ~lw 15:39 17-May-2007 Central.
 * All requirements filled out ~lw 11:47 18-May-2007 Central.

Radio, Advanced

 * Not many requirements here. Provided write up and links to relevant sources to pursue the necessary technical license. ~lw 13:00 18-May-2007 Central.

Shorthand

 * I looked at Shorthand. It looks complete. ~lw 13:12 18-May-2007 Central.
 * I think I did all the editing on the Shorthand honor, but did not think it was substantial enough to use to teach (or learn) the honor. The example of shorthand shows the Lord's Prayer, and I was having a difficult time decoding it given the info I was able to scare up and put in there.  If you know shorthand (I don't) and you think this is enough, I won't complain if you mark it as 100% complete. --Jomegat 01:42, 21 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Figured out the error in my thinking. Leaving it as incomplete, since it is not a skill that is easily transferred in the normal Pathfinder setting. ~lw 06:66 21-May-2007 Central.

About the Author
Hi Lwan98,

If you like, you could create an About the author/Lwan98 page and then include it at the bottom of any honors you write the answers to like this:

I have done this on the honors I have answered if I have any related credentials or expertise on the matter (for example, Adventist Youth Honors Answer Book/Vocational/Radio Electronics). Of course you do not have to do this at all, but I think it adds a human touch and adds some credibility to the whole project.


 * BTW, nice About the author page. ;-) It is of course, totally OK to remain anonymous. --Jomegat 02:09, 22 May 2007 (UTC)


 * I did leave a picture. Of course, it's a forest/trees thingy. ;> ~lw 15:31, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

Division honors
Hey LW,

I've been thinking that when I originally laid out this wikibook that I should not have put anything in the Division hierarchy. Having a Adventist Youth Honors Answer Book/Division page is OK, but I think storing honors under there was prolly a bad idea. After all, none of the NAD honors are in the Division category. Do you think I should move them to their respective categories (i.e., move Adventist Youth Honors Answer Book/Division/Video to Adventist Youth Honors Answer Book/Vocational/Video)? I'd keep the Division page and change all the links. I'd also leave the redirects in place, so that anyone who went to where they are now would still find them (but in the new place). --Jomegat 00:41, 23 May 2007 (UTC)


 * I think that they should be stored under their respective categories. They should also be listed under the Division, but linking to them under the categories, and leaving out the percentages. ~lw 01:19, 23 May 2007 (UTC)


 * OK - that's two people out of two who think that should be done, so I'm going to go ahead and start moving things. Then I'll go back through and relink.  Since you're working on the Video honor, I'll save it for last or wait until tomorrow.  BTW, if you start a line with a space (and maybe a tab, I'm not sure), the wikimedia software thinks you don't want it to do any formatting and outlines the text with a dotted line.  That's useful if you're writing a module about software and want to show a code listing (just in case you were wondering why that happens.)  To indent, start the line with a colon.  To indent more, use more colons.  Also, some images you added to the Cacti honor earlier today did not show your caption - that's because the caption only shows if you give it the "thumb" or "frame" property.  I added "thumb" for you.  It took me a long time to figure that one out.  --Jomegat 01:28, 23 May 2007 (UTC)


 * I'm learning - I'm also trying to remember to Preview first, so that I can see the error of my ways. That dotted line worked out great for Typewriting. ~lw 01:34, 23 May 2007 (UTC)


 * What about a box/shortcut/exploder, similar to the warning at Adventist Youth Honors Answer Book/Recreation/Dutch Oven Cooking, under the 'Honor Header' but before the 'Contents', that would acknowledge the division that introduced the honor? No, not a warning, but, some kind of acknowledgement. Thoughts? ~lw 02:25, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
 * The honor_header template should probably indicate the division instead of the GC. I think most of them do, but I could be mistaken. -- Jomegat 03:05, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Ah, I see it now - my bad. ~lw 03:15, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

Commons

 * How do I get images from Wikipedia into Commons? Train & Canvas? ~lw 03:26, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
 * It's a bit involved, but not too bad. First you have do download them to your PC.  I use Firefox, so I can just right-click on the image and "save-as".  Make sure you save the highest resolution image they have available.  Then I go to this tool and enter in the name of the image as it is named on Wikipedia, and click "Get text".  This will take a few minutes, but what it is doing is gathering all the info about the image it can divine (including original authors, etc).  When that is finished, I copy the text it generates with a ctrl-C.  Then go to the commons and click "Upload", browse to the saved image, and paste in the text generated by the tool.  Finally, hit "Upload".  Here it is again, bulleted:
 * Save image to PC
 * Generate text using this tool
 * Copy generated text to paste buffer (ctrl-C)
 * Go to the commons' upload page
 * browse to saved image
 * paste in text.
 * Hit the Upload button.
 * That's pretty much it. It's easier than it sounds, and if you have trouble, let me know. --Jomegat 03:36, 23 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Are these images in Wikipedia available to be put into commons? Bargello (needlework) The four images middle to bottom on the page that have some kind of license tag. ~lw 14:46, 23 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Yes. The creator licensed them under the GFDL, so they'll be fine. It's refreshing to work with someone who cares about the licenses! --Jomegat 16:47, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

Robots & Archivers

 * is there a way to have a robots.txt file so that the search engines and internet archivers exclude specific pages like user talk and about the author pages? (yes, i understand that it only works for those who actually behave by the rules) ~lw 03:32, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
 * I dunno. You could ask on the Staff lounge.  Most books don't have an About the Author section, and I'm not even sure it's a sanctioned practice.  But you could ask about the User: and User_talk: namespaces.  If there's a way to exclude the User namespace, you could put your About the Author page under there, a la User:Lwan98/About the Author.  Or you could just not have one.

Sheer brilliance!
Hi Lwan,

Nice photos of the lashings. BTW, I announced the completion of the Currency honors on http://www.pathfindersonline.org/forum last night. Nice job on that too. --Jomegat 15:38, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
 * I didn't want to cut down any more stuff than what I already had on hand. ~L


 * BTW, are those poles dogwood? (not the PVC ones) --Jomegat 15:42, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
 * No, Blackjack, I believe. One just has to use what one can find - that's what Pathfindering is all about. ~L 15:45, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

All Tied Up
Need to have
 * http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Template:Knot_taut-line_hitch,
 * http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Template:Knot_two_half_hitches moved (out of template) into the "Adventist_Youth_Honors_Answer_Book/Knot/" hierarchy, and
 * http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Template:Knot_bowline_on_a_bight deleted since I already created a duplicate http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Template:Adventist_Youth_Honors_Answer_Book/Knot/Bowline_on_a_bight.
 * ~lw 18:36, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Found the MOVE clicky... ~lw 23:44, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

Knot template
Hi LW,

I plan to create a template tonight for knots. It'll be similar to Template:EWP or Template:Species id, but for knots. I'm thinking it should have these fields: If you can think of any other fields it should have, lemme know. Also, if you're feeling up to it, you could go ahead and make the template yourself. Once that's done, we'll need to move all the existing knot stuff out of template space (it doesn't really belong there) and into "regular" namespace (under Adventist Youth Honors Answer Book/Knots/whatever and make it use the new template. Then go back and update all the pages that use the knots (Pioneering, Knot Tying, and others I'm sure). --Jomegat 18:39, 19 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Ha. EWP was pretty close, so I copied it and turned it into the knot template.  Now all I gotta do is give it a spin. --Jomegat 18:44, 19 June 2007 (UTC)