User talk:LGreg/sandbox/Approaches to Knowledge (LG seminar 2020/21)/Seminar 12/Truth

Hey, Basc0024!

Great text! I did a little further reading on your topic as the problems that you are addressing in your article are really quite shocking to me. I came across this other article that I thought you might be interested in reading, it’s about the issue with face recognition algorithms that you also talked about! Here’s the link: http://sitn.hms.harvard.edu/flash/2020/racial-discrimination-in-face-recognition-technology/ I also added just a little information from it to your text, just to specify a bit more what the problem with these algorithms is. Hope you don’t mind! Undercoveraustrian (discuss • contribs) 12:12, 10 November 2020 (UTC)Undercoveraustrian

Hi undercoveraustrian ! Thanks for adding some interesting details to an example I only mentioned rapidly ! I also went through your text and axioms really interested me. I didn't know which facts where considered as axiom/are assumed to be true without any proof, so I did some research and here is a quick list of axioms that I found in case it interests anybody else ! - “Nothing can both be and not be at the same time and in the same respect” - "If two sets have the same elements, then they are equal." - "A line can extend to infinity" It strikes me that those basis of mathematics that we constantly use might in fact be false.

Basc0024 (discuss • contribs)

Truth in Mathematics
Hi Undercoveraustrian! I've just read your text about truth in mathematics and it was really interesting. Honestly, I had never heard about some of the things you analyzed. Consequently, I needed to do some research and I've stumbled across an article that you might find helpful and fascinating. Here is the link towards it: http://settheory.net/sets/truth I think it covers exactly what you are talking about! xx

Uclqrdi (discuss • contribs) 20:08, 5 November 2020 (UTC)Uclqrdi

Hi Uclqrdi! I read through the link that you sent, and it was really interesting especially since I had not really covered this specific area of the subject in my text! So thanks a lot for the addition!

Undercoveraustrian (discuss • contribs) 12:16, 10 November 2020 (UTC)Undercoveraustrian

Truth in Social Media
To the person that wrote the part on social media, I though your subject was very interesting so I added a little paragraph about truth in social media in China as I found this very interesting article that talked about 'rumours' that could be true about the Chinese government but were still censored because it wasn't what the government wants to see. Here is the reference if you want. Zeng, J., Chan, C.‐h. and Fu, K.‐w. (2017). "How Social Media Construct "Truth" Around Crisis Events: Weibo's Rumor Management Strategies After the 2015 Tianjin Blasts". Policy and Internet: 297–320. --Uclqesm (discuss • contribs) 11:35, 6 November 2020 (UTC) Uclqesm

Hi Uclqesm! I read your paragraph and really loved it! Thank you for contributing to it, it really adds to the article. I found this example as much fascinating as it is disturbing. Thanks again! Uclqrdi (discuss • contribs) 22:15, 8 November 2020 (UTC)Uclqrdi

Truth within Religion
Hello, I really liked the topic choice for Truth Within Religion, and I think you had great points about it being a type of internal truth, even if it isn't based on quantitative evidence. I just wanted to add a little bit about some of the studied effects of truth within religion for an individual:

Finding personal truth within religion can occur in multiple ways. Aside from being born into a religion and learning about it from family or community, revelatory truth can also be a factor. Sometimes in instances of deep thought or meditation, differing brain signals and networks can be observed, especially in the frontal lobe, which plays a part in various high-level brain processes. Because religion can activate these functions, it suggests that full belief of a truth within a religion can create a better experience for those you partake in it.

7. Blows M, Blows J, Haruki Y, Bankart P, DelMonte M, Srinivasan S. The Relevance of the Wisdom Traditions in Contemporary Society [Internet]. Google Books. 2020 [cited 7 November 2020]. Available from: https://books.google.co.uk/books?hl=en&lr=&id=1YnP0Jx-QvIC&oi=fnd&pg=PA195&dq=enlightenment+brain&ots=tBctBgV0RU&sig=ZP2OrEm0_fLv-WAa2N2wqdqtLSk&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q=enlightenment%20brain&f=false Dyinghouseplant (discuss • contribs) 01:57, 10 November 2020 (UTC)

Hi, I just read the article and it was indeed very interesting, do you want to add it or should I do it? --Uclqesm (discuss • contribs) 10:35, 9 November 2020 (UTC)Uclqesm

I just added it. Thanks! Dyinghouseplant (discuss • contribs) 01:57, 10 November 2020 (UTC)

Truth in History and Historiography
This contribution brought up a really interesting perspective of truth in history however, I feel you could accentuate your point by writing a conclusive paragraph where you explain how the different theories on the emergence of the industrial revolution tie into the concept of truth in hisotry as a discipline. You could perhaps explain how all these theories are arguably true when looking at different aspects of the situation and also perhaps connect back to your point about coexistence, correlation and causation in order to clarify your point to the reader.

Is mathematics invented or discovered
Hi! Looks like we chose pretty similar topics for our contributions, but it was interesting for me to see how we both weighed certain points differently within them! It was nice to read trough a different take on things!

Undercoveraustrian (discuss • contribs) 13:30, 10 November 2020 (UTC)Undercoveraustrian