User talk:Kittycataclysm/Archive 2022

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Thanks for your contributions -- Jules (Mrjulesd) 08:45, 4 February 2022 (UTC)


 * Happy to help :) -- Kittycataclysm (discuss • contribs) 12:57, 4 February 2022 (UTC)

Hi
thanks Juuudfufhbf (discuss • contribs) 23:16, 5 February 2022 (UTC)

Cookbook:Candied Sweet Potatoes
Your blanking advised speed deletion. Now moving something in should be possible if no one else does anything.--Jusjih (discuss • contribs) 01:30, 18 April 2022 (UTC)

Hii
Hi @user:Kittycataclysm, hope you are good? I want to inform you that Wikibook would experience loads of new editors as we just organized a training on Wikibook with special interest in Cookbooks, Kindly assist in correcting the new editors. Thank you very much B.Korlah (discuss • contribs) 06:31, 4 May 2022 (UTC)


 * Hi @B.Korlah, and welcome! It's great to see new users, especially in the cookbook. I am happy to help when I can, and you can use Cookbook:Policy and Cookbook:Policy/Recipe template as guidelines when creating new pages. Cheers! -- Kittycataclysm (discuss • contribs) 11:55, 4 May 2022 (UTC)

Disscussion on edit to Grannie Gilbert's Sugar Cookie Recipie
Hello @user:Kittycataclysm, I hope you're doing well, and thank you so much for working on reoganzing the cookbook, it's great work. However, I am wondering the reason behind your recent(ish) changes to the page Cookbook:Sugar Cookies, specifically the sugar cookie recipe formerly known as "Grannie Gilbert's sugar cookies". I think that it would make sense to reinstate the longer name of the recipe, to set it apart from any other sugar cookie recipes that may be added in the future as noew contributions are made to the cookbook. As well, given that it seems to be a family recipe of the original writer (@@[[user:Nmontague), I feel that their original recipe description should be maintained, though an addendum about the lack of specific evidence could be added on the discussion page or in a new section. Of course, these are mostly nitpicks about a page I feel personally invested in, so please do take this with a pinch of salt. I'd be happy to work with you to improve the page and the cookbook as a whole in the future! Thank you! --AceDragonfly (discuss • contribs) 17:52, 7 May 2022 (UTC)

Realized there was an oversight in the above message. Per the cookbook policy on recipe names, you were in the right to change the name of this recipe, though due to how common sugar cookie recipes are, I still think that letting it retain its unique name in some contexts might be good for clarity. Speaking of which, it seems that Grannie Gilbert's cookies, Cookbook:Very Simple Cookies, Cookbook:Vanilla Crisps, and possibly Cookbook:Spritzgeback could be grouped together under a disambiguation page for sugar cookies. What do you think? AceDragonfly (discuss • contribs)


 * Hi @User:AceDragonfly! It's nice to meet you, and thanks for your note :) Yes, I changed the name due to the cookbook policy of not naming recipes after people unless they are well-known figures. I agree that a more unique name for Cookbook:Sugar Cookies might be helpful—what do you think of 'Soft Sugar Cookies' or 'Chewy Sugar Cookies'? This would more accurately describe the recipe, and I could turn Cookbook:Sugar Cookies into a disambiguation page linking out to other sugar cookies. Let me know! -- Kittycataclysm (discuss • contribs) 18:43, 7 May 2022 (UTC)


 * Hello @Kittycataclysm, that sounds like a good solution! From my experience with the recipe, I would say that "Soft Sugar Cookies" would be most accurate to how they turn out. In related topics, I'm about to have accsess to a kitchen again soon, so are there any cookie/baked good recipes you need new images for? I'd be happy to test some out for everyone's benefit (well, mostly mine because it means I get cookies) :) AceDragonfly (discuss • contribs) 22:20, 7 May 2022 (UTC)
 * I completely forgot to reply, I'm sorry! I'm glad you're testing out the recipes, and the cookbook would benefit from any images you take! -- Kittycataclysm (discuss • contribs) 22:30, 15 May 2022 (UTC)

Copyvio claims
Hi there,


 * Cookbook:Nigerian Doughnut
 * Cookbook:Nigerian Puff Puff
 * Cookbook:Nigerian Sausage Roll
 * Cookbook:Nigerian Suya

Thanks for bringing recent copyvios to light. But the above pages, I'm not sure they are copyvios: I have checked them using https://copyvios.toolforge.org, which is either negative or inconclusive.

I think that copying of recipes should be ok, as long as alternate wording is used. this is based on https://copyrightalliance.org/are-recipes-cookbooks-protected-by-copyright/, which claims that recipes can't be copyrighted, except for the “substantial literary expression” of recipes, which includes such things as copy/paste of text and similar. So I think these probably pass, going on that basis; no or minimal verbatim copying has seemed to have taken place.

How do you feel about this view? -- Jules (Mrjulesd) 16:36, 8 May 2022 (UTC)


 * Hi Jules! I agree that the recipes themselves can't be copyrighted. For the cases you referenced above, I was more concerned about the introductions, which seem to have been copied and pasted with only minor rewording from the sites I noted in the copyvio templates. I also checked them at https://copyvios.toolforge.org, which doesn't flag them, but I think that they are still taking enough of the intellectual property of the original bloggers that they should be changed—perhaps I can rework the intros more significantly. Let me know what you think! -- Kittycataclysm (discuss • contribs) 16:45, 8 May 2022 (UTC)


 * Well that seems like a good way of dealing with it. I did notice some minimal copying; but if this text is replaced these pages should be ok I think
 * But thanks for your tagging of pages with copyvios which has been helpful.
 * Also thanks very much for all the work you've put into the cookbook. Cheers -- Jules (Mrjulesd) 17:05, 8 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Gotcha! I'll fix up those pages and remove the copyvios. Happy to help :) -- Kittycataclysm (discuss • contribs) 18:30, 8 May 2022 (UTC)

Alcoholic beverage recipes in Cookbook
Hi @Kittycataclysm, I was just wondering if I could get your opinion on this suggestion I have made: Cookbook_talk:Policy - you can find my suggestion/ rationale there. Would be great to hear what you think. Jamzze (discuss • contribs) 08:33, 26 July 2022 (UTC)


 * done! -- Kittycataclysm (discuss • contribs) 01:41, 27 July 2022 (UTC)

Wow Maka James (discuss • contribs) 15:58, 26 August 2022 (UTC)