User talk:JustinLillich~enwikibooks

Getting Help

 * I absolutely agree, but where to go? People seem to be dead around this place and kicking them into gear seems to be difficult.  Go with whatever ideas you have and any help from me you have with you.  Put something up on the talk page or maybe at the bottom of the main page. ~Amish

Names

 * I thought about that and if you're up for it, we can certainly do it. I mean, I'm using my user name like you are, in that it's basically my name anyways.  I figure if folks are interested, they can always click and see my name.  Amish

Requirements of a "Decree"
At some point, we should come up with a list of requirements in order to get a "decree" (which is what the Wikiversity folks call it, not me). What courses, what level courses, etc. Just a thought. There's no rush and I think we should take some time in deciding. This would be something no one else in the Wikiversity has done thus far, and that, too, makes it exciting! Amish

New to Wikiversity
Justin, Amish-

Just wanted to say hello. I've been using Wikipedia for some time now, just dabbling here and there in some of the areas where I know things. I stumbled onto this Wikiversity page a few days ago and would like to be more involved. My schedule is hectic at times, but I'd like to do as much as I can.

My focus is primarily Writing and Rhetoric (or Rhetoric and Composition depending on where you study), and I was curious about how you see that component falling under the larger umbrella of English and Literature Studies. I know that Writing and Rhetoric can tend to be a hot button item within schools of English, so I wanted to check with you before making major changes.

Would you be interested in having a school of Rhetoric and Composition under the larger umbrella of English and Literature studies that would cover the courses for composition, linguistics, grammar, professional (or other forms of non-creative) writing, rhetoric, teaching writing, etc.?

My thought is, the English department could be split into three "schools" or "sub-departments"? One school could focus on English studies, which consists primarily of literature and languages. Another school would focus on rhetoric and composition, which covers the previously mentioned headings. And our third school would cover all of our creative writing components.

So, if a student were in pursuit of a decree in English from our Wikiversity, the literature classes the student takes would be handled by faculty from the school of English studies. The composition classes would be handled by faculty from the school of Rhetoric and Composition. And any creative writing would be handled by faculty from the school of Creative Writing.

In order for a student to receive a decree, they would have to take a certain number of classes from each "school" of English. Depending on their focus, they might be obligated to take more classes in a certain school than another.

This just seems like a great place to be innovative with our decisions and think outside of the box. Wikiversity, as much as we might want it to be, is not a university. And I don't think that's a bad thing. Universities have set ways, traditions. This is our chance to be progressive and change the way we handle our fields of interest.

Just let me know if we can continue discussing some possible options for renovating how we do business. I mean, do we have to use the same class numbering system as a major university for our classes to mean as much? I don't think so. Why don't we sit down and think about how we can improve what we didn't like about the format of our educations? What do we have to lose?

I don't know if you guys saw Kathleen Blake Yancey's speech at the Conference on College Composition and Communication last year, but it addresses some of these key issues. We are in a revolutionary time right now, thanks to technology and the ability to communicate in new and different ways. We should be thinking of new ways to conduct our business. If you'd like a copy of the speech, e-mail me at ztheday@hotmail.com, and I can get it to you.

Thanks,

ztheday aka John Anderson


 * I personally think we're better off with the standard numbering. I also think that we should be able to move freely within SLES and run courses where we like.  With only three of us so far, why should we limit ourselves, especially since I feel we would all have knowledge in every area.  I don't see why I couldn't run a course in CW and LS and Justin run in Web Writing and LS or Comp, etc.  I figure we have the ability to run more courses in this forum than in a real university setting (where maybe you could run 2 or 3 at the most!).  While the courses themselves can be reworked, I think that a basic frame is a decent idea.  Amish

Welcome Back!!!
Boy am I glad to see you! I haven't been doing much of late as I'm not sure what will happen with Wikiversity. I say we start building this section into a perfect model and see if we can't get this whole project kick started. Up for it? Atrivedi


 * Also, if you want it, the top departmental slot is yours. Just keeping the seat warm :) Atrivedi

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Stages.
The lowest possible stage is and  - Please fill in the propper date. A red link (non existing book) can not - by definition - be finished by 25%. It is also not finished by 1% as it has not been started ;-).

--Krischik T 07:14, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

Redesign for the school
As you can tell, I've been thinking a lot about what this school is to become.

I figure that this is the safest place to write about what I want to do with this thing. I think it is best to do it point by point.


 * First of all, the basic structure of the school at this point could survive in the form of a text book. I believe it is important for us to look at building a textbook with what we have and working from there.  It would be a great idea for us to hold off on working through a school and set our sights on writing the text book first.
 * Secondly, course names and numbers: There should not have been so many course names and numbers this early. I know I fell into the trap of writing the names of every class I've ever seen in a course catalog.  At this point, there should be a basic set of work to look at.  I don't think I would be able to build much more than a couple courses at this point, and the work that would be done in just one class would be crazy enough.  The courses I teach at the University are bad enough.
 * Third, the name of the school. English isn't the only language that has literature or writing.  Any language that has a body of writing should be present here.  Without naming it something along the lines of the school of world literature, we should stick to a basic, all encompassing name.  My suggestion  School of Composition and Literature.  It's short, gets the point across.
 * Finally, the command structure. I don't know how long it will mean anything, but we'll try to have a board of directors and a person in charge of this board.  I think that most of the other schools are going with who posted to them first, so that is the way this will stand as well.  Those of you who have put your names on the lists of faculty will be considered the members of the board until such time as you see fit to no longer be attached.  It is the only really fair way to do this.

Overall, I think this will create a better system of keeping up with what I hope will be a busy schedule. We have to let Wikimedia know that we're in this for the long haul. As it's really really late here, I'm going to bed. See you all around! Cheers. --JustinLillich 06:42, 18 February 2006 (UTC)


 * I suggested 'School of Literary Studies' on the SLES talk page. It was a part of my master plan from before. Atrivedi

oh yeah
I believe a "Dean" is the head of a "School", where as a "Chair" is the head of a department, which is what you are :). Atrivedi

Makes sense
I suppose. I wasn't thinking about it that way, as I'm trying to bring all narrative languages under one heading instead of the traditional university English department.

JustinLillich T 00:23, 20 Feb 2006 (UTC)

You still out there??
They've approved Wikiversity! We can do this for real now! If you're still in, let's start working...from scratch. First things: School of Literary Studies. Not just English. Anything. Hope you're still with us! Atrivedi

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