User talk:Jangim

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Snails & crabs
OK - I don't know much about it but the work you are doing looks very good. Looks like some more links from Animal Care would be good tho - there are "back" links from the snails & crabs but I can't see them from the care page? All the best -- Herby talk thyme 08:10, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

Hermit crab care...from wikipedia?
Hi Jangim,

This looks like it was copied from wikipedia (judging by the large # of links)... for copyright reasons, we need to import pages that are copied from wikipedia to preserve the edit histories. No biggie, since it can still be done, just leave me a note on my talk page, or else request it at WB:RFI. Also, most of the links on the page are interwikis to wikipedia... if you'd like, I can import some of those pages too if they would be useful for your book. -- SB_Johnny | talk 10:24, 28 October 2006 (UTC)


 * Two reasons really. The first reason has to do with the copyrights... if you copy things from wikipedia, you're supposed to keep the edit history of the article that was copied (there's some subtle differences between the GFDL and public domain).
 * The second reason is that wikibooks are supposed to (in theory, at their best, etc.) be "self-contained", so that someone who's starting out with their first hermit crab could just print out the chapters on hermit crab care and not need to also download wikipedia articles. In general wikilinks aren't used very much on wikibooks for this reason. Have a look at Dewikify for details on that :-). For example: if you want, I could import the articles about the various species, and you could then merge them into a single page describing them and their potential/difficulty as pets.
 * BTW, the reason I thought it might be copied wasn't because I don't think the chapter is great work (quite the contrary!), but large numbers of wikilinks in the first version of a page are usually a good sign that this is the case. I try to keep on top of the copyright stuff, because we've had some serious problems with it in the past :-(.
 * My daughter is a huge hermit crab fan (she's almost 3)... are they safe for 3-yr-olds? -- SB_Johnny  | talk 10:55, 28 October 2006 (UTC)


 * I am not really sure that I agree with the idea of trying to keep two different sets of encyclopedia info up-to-date. Hermit crab biology is a work-in-progress right now.


 * ...They're not "two sets of articles", they're chapters and articles, which don't need to contain the same thing. I just thought maybe a chapter like Animal Care/Hermit Crab Species would be nice, because you could just have a quick discussion about how well each species is adapted for being a pet, special needs, etc. (which, as you may have found, is often considered "unwelcome information" on wikipedia because "Wikipedia is not a how-to guide!!!"). Then you could just add links to the wikipedia articles discussing the science of hermit crabs on that page.


 * However, once I finish the book/chapter and get it reviewed by a couple of "crabbers" AND get some more work done on the Wikipedia articles, I'll work on making the stuff more independent of Wikipedia. This going to take a while.


 * Oh most definitely... all books take a while :).


 * I wouldn't let Caroline handle the crab unsupervised, of course :). Though I'm surprised to think that they can be "tamed"... I didn't think they were smart enough to learn behaviors like that! -- SB_Johnny | talk 12:21, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

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