User talk:Herraotic

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Good luck! -- Herby talk thyme 17:16, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

And
Before you go to far could you check naming policy. Wikijunior ones I think have their own naming format (not a problem the page can be "moved" to the new name). Cheers -- Herby talk thyme 17:16, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

Human Anatomy
You say in your user page that you're interested in creating a Human Anatomy book. You should know that one already exists and you are welcome to edit or add to it.

Human_Anatomy

Good luck! Xania 20:00, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

Regarding new Wikijunior Books
Wikijunior has a policy that new books should be approved before they are started. I believe that this is not an official policy but an ideal. Wikijunior want completed books which will appeal to kids rather than half-finished books of a huge range. I have very recently started a wikijunior book on Europe Wikijunior_Europe and I have to confess that I just decided to start it without any vote or without asking permission. I would suggest that you can do this too but make sure that your book is completed at some point and that it specifically targets kids. Try to follow the layout and sections that other Wikijunior books use and you should be alright. Xania 20:15, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

Regarding the Wikijunior_Alphabet book. There hasn't been much work on this book for about 2 months so I would say go ahead. However it seems that the original authors eventually want to make some kind of slideshow from the page and this would only be possible (or at least easier) if everything was one the one page. My suggestion would be to create a new page with links to each letter of the alphabet (or leave the main page as it is but create links to separate pages as well). Xania 21:42, 3 December 2006 (UTC)


 * Your question about adding a new page is not trivial. I couldn't figure it out either at first.  The best way would be to create a new link on the main Wikijunior_Alphabet page and just write something like /A to create a page for the letter 'A'.  When you click the link for the first time it'll let you create and edit it.  Or ofcourse you can just go to the address Wikijunior/alphabet/a and then create it as usual. Just remember to create a link from somewhere so people can get to your page.

If you want to see who else is currently active on Wikibooks the best place to look is Special:recentchanges which will show the last 50 or so changes on Wikibooks and then you can see which wikibooks members are online at the moment. Hope this helps! Xania 22:34, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

Oh also don't worry if you create a page in the wrong page. You can move it to the correct location using the "move" option (to the right of the 'edit page' button at the top of the screen). If you've created a page in error then just add and type your reason where it says 'reason'. One of the administrators will be notified and delete it at some point. Xania 22:40, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

You will see that someone has added a 'speedy delete' tag to your Wikijunior Mathematics book. I have raised this in Staff_lounge as I think this is not right. Of course this is Wiki so people can say and change things as they like but 'speedy deletes' should be used for vandalism and inappropriate content only. If someone doesn't like a book then they should organise a vote to delete it but whoever added the 'speedy delete' tag to your book seems to think differently. I wouldn't worry and just continue editing the book and hopefully an admin will remove the speedy tag soon. Xania 00:28, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for your message. I've re-added the speedy delete tag so the page will probably get deleted by an admin at some point. Xania 20:06, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

Info Boxes
What kind of info box do you mean? Is it this one?

If that's the kind of thing you're looking for then you need to create a template - see this page Xania 22:15, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

This is what you want - Infobox. You can see examples and find out how to make them at that page. I will have to read this at some point as it looks like a good feature which I, until now, had no idea about. Xania 22:27, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

Re:Main Page Redesign
Somewhere there is an "test" version of the main page, for making changes. I suggest you either (A) find the test version and implement your changes for people to view, or (B) create a new test page (probably in your user namespace) to make your changes in so people can see them. I agree with you that our frontpage is intimidating, but the user who used to update it, User:Hagindaz has been absent for some time. --Whiteknight (talk) (projects) 20:25, 20 December 2006 (UTC)


 * That test page would be Main Page/test. --dark [[Image:Yin yang.svg|12px]] lama 20:30, 20 December 2006 (UTC)


 * Template:Wikibookslang is protected, and can only be edited by admins. Unfortunately, I think you are going to need to make a copy of that template if you would like to propose changes. --Whiteknight (talk) (projects) 20:41, 20 December 2006 (UTC)


 * "Wikibookians". --Whiteknight (talk) (projects) 20:56, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

Re:Wikibooks inhibitor
I agree with your statement in staff lounge, although I will warn you again that this subject has been raised a number of other times, and no particular amount of progress has been made. The first thing that I think we need to do if we want to combat this problem is to find the existing books and resources here on wikibooks that either do satisfy these requirements, or which could easily be modified to satisfy them. Some places to look are: Wikijunior, Wikistudy, and the various bookshelves.

Second, we need to determine which curriculm/curricula to write for. Using a process that I've been trying to formalize called User:Whiteknight/Philosophy, I think we should be able to write a single text that fits multiple curricula. This of course would hinge on our ability to write the books in an atomic way(devoting chapters to small individual subjects).

Once we get our books lined up to conform to the curricula, we would then need to solicit outside help to actually write them. We would likely be able to attract people from wikipedia to help, and also from external teaching communities.

I would like to get working on this project with you, let me know what you think. --Whiteknight (talk) (projects) 19:02, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

advance on images


oh yeah, meanwhile i have found out that the wikipedia logo's font is called "HTF Hoefler Text" i do not have it but if i get to have enough examples of the letters i can do the text wikibooks. will let you know as soon as i get it.-84.142.245.175 21:09, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Hi, here is LadyofHats. i wanted to mention that before i got to read your answer on my questions i had already finished this image. i modified to make it a bit more simpler as you can see on the left. let me know if it is this way as you want it or qich changes you would need... Also here is what i have done so far from the skeleton ( it was harder than i thought :P). is cartoonish enough for you?
 * Here is the wikibooks logo you asked me. dunno if it is legal to do so by the way -84.142.198.120 04:10, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

Re: Vandalism prevention
You could install some scripts in your js (User:Herraotic/monobbok.js) - Link. Also, there's a live rc feed in #vandalism-en-wb or #en.wikibooks. And take a look at Dealing with vandalism. (lots of tips there) :) --Az1568(Talk) 18:49, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

Another person watching RC!
Hi - it really is good to have folk around who are happy to help. Vandalism is actually much less now as we are blocking open proxies as you will have noticed from RC. In practice while Az1568 & I have done a bit of a hit in the last 24 hours Johnny & Darklama did an earlier run on this and vandalism is quite low now. My thoughts - poke about! See where links go, look at categories. A real goody to look at Special:Lonelypages as they don't link anywhere (not always wrong), Special:Shortpages can also be worth a look thro.

If you want more suggestions, you know here to find me and thanks for the thoughts so far - regards -- Herby talk thyme 18:59, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

Welcomes
Personally no (although I did do one today who I think may have been an anon who was contributing quite a bit - there is an anon welcome for those to encourage them to join up). I like to see a few edits - I guess I mean something other than linking their user page to wp for example.

However placing a welcome quite quickly is good in case they are finding anything difficult. Equally keeping an eye on how they are using naming, formatting is useful. Be careful not to jump too quickly if they go wrong but some do need quite a firm push at time!! If you want to start doing that kind of thing I'll not bother as much - quick look down RC for red talks on users is easy to find. I'm sure you will see it anyway but make sure they are not minor vandals that you are "welcoming" - it has happened. If you need any help feel free to ask - thanks for getting involved -- Herby talk thyme 20:16, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

Ruby on Rails WikiBook Sources
Ok, hopefully I'm doing this right, since this is the first time I'm using the Wiki:talk functionality. You asked what sources I am using for the Ruby on Rails book. Some of the content is taken from the API documentation directly, some of it is republished articles (with permission granted by the article author for republishing with modifications), and some of it is brand new content. HTH. Aeden 21:04, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

Your new book suggestions
I've been thinking for some time that using the Import tool might be a good way to get at least some skeletons for books like these. For example Number links to hundreds of other wp articles about numbers, and it would be easy enough to just import them all and reorganize them into a narrative form. Were you interested in starting any in particular? I'm be more than happy to import 1,000 pages, if someone were to put them to good use in making a textbook (I'd help too, depending on the subject). -- SB_Johnny | talk 02:47, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

Another RC idea
The next day - another thought. One of the things I've tried to do on RC is keep an eye out for "active contributors" to add to the list that gets the Gazette, if you could help with that it would be great. I guess "definition" of active is an issue - I was looking for people who did not contribute briefly to one book or page only. However as with anything Wiki it is up to anyone doing it to come up with what they see as best (allowing others to disagree!). Let me know if you need clarification or anything - cheers -- Herby talk thyme 13:06, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

Regarding Wikibooks language portal
Please see my addendum to your post titled Wikibooks language portal at the staff lounge. Thank you, User:Iamunknown 06:46, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

some more advances
the skeleton is ready. if you see here you can find links for all the diferent version of it. i will work on the blood cells as soonas i can -84.142.213.169 03:49, 6 January 2007 (UTC) P.D. its me LadyofHats

Please consider talking to users as opposed to tagging their texts
I noticed that you tagged Gears of War Comprehensive Guide and all of the subpages to be transwikiied without notifying the author. May I suggest that next time, when you come across a newly created Wikibook that is more appropriately housed at a different Wiki, that you talk with the creator as opposed to tagging them. (I noticed that you did not bother to make even one edit on User:Basejumper123's talk page.) While it might take a little longer and may take extra effort on your part, it is a nicety that diffuses the tension between users and within the Wikibooks community. New users particularly are apt to take vfd or transwiki tags personally; after all, they are creating their own work. It is rather insulting to see someone claim that your own work is not suitable for Wikibooks.

It is also an appropriate time to refer users to our policies. Talking to the user as opposed to tagging their creations can be a good educational opportunity for them so that they know on what basis their work is inappropriate on Wikibooks. And it is also appropriate because then our policies become more transparent and widely known.

And note that this does work. For an example, please see the discussion between User_talk:Eura23 and me about the wikibook Eura23 was creating entitled Uberish (now deleted). It was a constructed language the user was creating as he or she was posting it on Wikibooks, and thus was inappropriate for Wikibooks. But, at least as I inferred from our conversation, Eura23 was perfectly okay with deleting when he or she found out it was inappropriate at Wikibooks. In this case, Eura23 ended up tagging his or her pages for speedy deletion. This may not have happened had I tagged as &#123;{vfd|Non-notable conlang}} or &#123;{transwiki|Strategywiki}}.

Thanks for your time and consideration &mdash; User:Iamunknown 01:37, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

Phonetics for the alphabet books
...Sorry I'm hard to get in touch with today, we have visitors so I only had a couple minutes to chat.

I don't think it's necessary, as the parent (or other reader) will in most cases know how the letter is pronounced. On the other hand, it might be nice to have versions for that purpose, since a parent might not be a native English speaker. For some letters it might be especially important (such as C or G, which have different pronunciations).

I'll be back on IRC early tomorrow morning, then again late tomorrow (EST). -- SB_Johnny | talk 00:58, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

Wikibooks portal page
Did you ever have a look at Www.wikibooks.org template and the talk page? I started a conversation based on your ideas which I thought were appropriate. Not many Wikibookians have contributed to the discussion, though I did advertise on all the major Wikibookses (the ones listed on the recentchanges page). Thanks, User:Iamunknown 01:17, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

Wikitoddler
I responded to your question about wikitoddler on my talk page. --xixtas 02:50, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

Basic books
I've created a first draft page for the basic books wikiproject. This wikiproject is based off ideas that you've had, and discussions that we've had in the past. We can use this wikiproject as a centralized discussion area for creating these basic, fundamental books that wikibooks lacks. Hopefully, we can get a substantial community involvement in the project, once we get some of the details hammered out. I wanted to let you know about this first, because you've been so active in this area. --Whiteknight (talk) (projects) 18:04, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

What is Wikijunior
What is Wikijunior is proposed as a policy and has been included on the Wikibooks Policies and Guidelines Voting page. Please take time to comment and express your opinion in the referendum. -- xixtas talk 02:46, 2 May 2007 (UTC)