User talk:Herbythyme/Compost4

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Happy new years
Hey Herby, happy new years. No problem on the redirects, I do stuff like that when I'm bored (which happens depressingly often, hahaha), though don't they have a bot on Wikipedia to fix them? Maybe we could pilfer the use of that next time. Regards. Mattb112885 21:27, 31 December 2006 (UTC)


 * To you, too!

Happy New Years to you and yours, too! Best wishes achieving your goals. User:Iamunknown 22:45, 31 December 2006 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the user-page compliment. :D User:Iamunknown 03:15, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

Likewise! I'll drink a toast to you tonight. --xixtas 02:34, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

Thanks! hope you had a great new years. : ) --Az1568(Talk) 21:53, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

Congradulations (or.... perhaps Run and Hide!)
You have just achieved the "minimum" number of votes necessary for having the "Checkuser" privilege granted to your account. This is a very, very necessary tool for us to use here on Wikibooks, and don't get into the BS that some (*cough*) certain individuals have used that advocate a very minimalist use of chechuser rights. This is something that I have fought long and hard to "permit" projects like Wikibooks to be able to have users with these user administration tools.

Mind you, I'm not advocating that you publish in a public place everything that you may see, but it isn't really as big of a deal as the Meta page would have you believe. I strongly believe the standard for having checkuser rights is way too high, but that is an issue best left for other fora besides your talk page.

On the whole, congratulations. It is "possible" that there may be some other objections, but a 26-1 vote in support for you is pretty good. That you havn't made too many enemies over the time you have been editing here is also something remarkable as well, and that speaks volumes over your conduct here on Wikibooks.

If somebody else didn't beat me to it, I'll make sure your name goes up on Meta as an elegible account for the stewards to change the checkuser status in the next few days. We aren't in a particular rush to get this to happen, but it is nice to see that we will have some more users with this authority. --Rob Horning 07:47, 1 January 2007 (UTC)


 * I'd like to add a second to Rob's congrats. Thanks for all you do here, but especially all you do for me and my project! Jim Thomas 01:25, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

RE: Acoustics module
The link I took out went to the main page of the book. It had poor naming convention, and so when I fixed the naming convention the link to the main page of the book appeared. I also appreciate your understanding of my edit summary ways. I sometimes forget to do the summary. Tannersf 13:03, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

No Biggie :)
I had just put it together with the dispute stuff in the interests of having both good and bad stuff on that page. Do you have your ideas written down somewhere? I'm a bit stuck on where to go twith that part.

The Dispute Resolution parts are also aimed to keep it simple... mediation when possible, and if mediation is ineffective, it automatically moves up to arbitration. Hopefully this won't need to be used often, which is another reason to have the other stuff linked from the same page (so that we don't only see that page pop up when it's dire circumstances). -- SB_Johnny | talk 16:31, 1 January 2007 (UTC)


 * Do your own what? -- SB_Johnny | talk 17:34, 1 January 2007 (UTC)


 * Oh sorry, I was reverting Robert... I guess since I was editing an old version it didn't show up as an edit conflict. I'll add your stuff back :) -- SB_Johnny | talk 17:35, 1 January 2007 (UTC)


 * I didn't mean to revert you... see my edit comment (so users are supposed to fight it out for a couple months?!?!?) :). I still think arbitration should go below mediation though, preferably at the bottom rather than the top, as I'd like the "positive" elements to take precedence. -- SB_Johnny | talk 17:39, 1 January 2007 (UTC)


 * Are you still here? (I really wish you used IRC!) -- SB_Johnny | talk 17:49, 1 January 2007 (UTC)
 * You have mail. -- SB_Johnny | talk 18:13, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

WMOG stuff
"WMOG project" is for meta pages (look in the category and you'll see what I mean). I'm going to move the template and stub categories in there too... just housecleaning.

If you come across subpages that aren't categorized, just put them into the main category (Category:A Wikimanual of Gardening). Caught one yesterday that was a bad transwiki, there might be others like that as well. -- SB_Johnny | talk 16:38, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

OMG!!!! Please stop! I spent hours and hours emptying that main category!!!!!!! -- SB_Johnny | talk 16:43, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

I did answer you, look above :). Only uncategorized ones should go there... I've been sorting the others because the main category was too big (I don't like categories over 200 pages, probably stems from my previous life as a wikipedian). Those other categories are subcategories of the main one, so adding the main one is redundant (and looks messy on printouts). -- SB_Johnny | talk 16:48, 1 January 2007 (UTC)


 * It took hours because I had to decide category names, substructure, etc. I also edit the pages a bit while I'm doing it... some of the really old stuff still talks about "volumes", which are all gone now :).
 * The new pages I make are auto-catted when I templatize them. -- SB_Johnny | talk 16:50, 1 January 2007 (UTC)


 * Yeah, no alphas on many of them as it stands now, but I'm getting there. I'm updating the LMOS now, will let you know when I'm done. Prolly not much need for a bot though, since each page requires a separate decision (though you're more than welcome to add the alphas. -- SB_Johnny | talk 16:55, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks Herbythyme.

Urbane User 17:24, 1 January 2007 (UTC)


 * Thanks Herbythyme, that would be a great help.


 * UserTalk 17:56, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

Yes I use firefox
Hey Herby, yes I use firefox, though if you gave me a script I would have no idea what to do with it (I'm assuming .js is javascript?), if it's something that's easy to do and doesn't require admin priveleges I wouldn't mind taking a hack at it. Mattb112885 04:45, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Hey Herby. thanks a lot for telling me about this, this is pretty cool, now to figure out how to use it! I'll take that line out now (shoulda seen that one), not sure what is out there but Ill look around for sure! Regards, Mattb112885 15:47, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Hey Herby, haven't really messed around with too much yet. I use AdBlock because flash ads in particular are just damn annoying. Other than that, nothing really, what is NoScript? Maybe I'll look into it. Other than adblock my browser has what came installed with it, I don't like putting too much on it, after all it takes up a large percentage of my CPU as it is! I really messed around with my windows XP settings though because it drove me crazy with some of the stuff it was doing (especially the security center which I finally figured out how to block, I'll manage my own security thank you Microsoft).
 * Popups are pretty cool, is there a way to make it so it waits a little longer before it pops up? If not I'll just adjust to moving my mouse a little to the right after a split second, cuz it covers up the link. Sometimes I accidentally rest my mouse on a link when I'm reading something, and it blocks the view, thats kinda annoying but comes with the territory. I wouldn't want to use popups on wikipedia, it's not so bad here though! Regards. Mattb112885 21:34, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Hey, I installed Noscript, its pretty cool, doesn't seem too obtrusive, thanks for the heads up. Also made some mods to the popups, I don't like summaries since I'm on a dialup modem, so I turned them off with the delay and it works much better. If I find anything interesting I'll let you know. (you need an invitation to gmail? I would gladly send you one, hahaha). Regards, Mattb112885 18:11, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the Welcome
Thanks for the welcome! Avenue of Covina 06:40, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

Much appreciated on the bot! Avenue of Covina 08:31, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

BfR
Sounds good to me. Were you thinking of incorporating this into the RfC, or have it something separate? I guess I was thinking of the RfC as taking on some of the things currently on SL, which is generally dominated by policy debate and so gets hard to watch (well, hard to watch for other reasons too, I s'pose :P). There was talk many moons ago about possibly splitting SL like the wp VP, this is something a bit short of that. -- SB_Johnny | talk 14:48, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

vfd
Were you refering to my closing of the "Unsolved Archive" vote or my actual vote for the Imamat page? I closed "Unsolved Archive" as generally people wanted it deleting (although I voted to keep it). Xania talk 16:43, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

Regarding the clutter on Staff Lounge. I'd prefer not to see the creation of yet another page WB:RFC as this would just make the problem worse especially if it's known by its initials which just frightens off many people - we have too many vfds, rfas, rfcs and other strange pages with no central place linking to them all. Xania talk 21:57, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

Damn succession
Herby, I would really appreciate your comments on Votes_for_deletion when you get up. I'm of for a while tomorrow and would love to finish this off before then. I'll be around on and off today (GMT). --Swift 09:27, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

I'd like to strongly disagree with your closing of the VfD! The debate should revolve around how the page is now, not what it was then. Changes have been made (not since the hold -- which I don't think is a fruitful practice, by the way). There is only one voice for keep, but it should be the quality of the argument, not the number of voices that should matter. If Xanias objections are weak, then we should wait till they are addressed. If not, we should keep.

Johnny's and Whiteknight's comments were made before SH's changes. I do vote delete, but don't want it deleted as long as someone wants it in on Xanias grounds. Please change this back and wait till my questions to Kellen have been sufficiently countered.

My concerns here are for process. For the sake of the community, we should seek the widest consensus reasonable -- I don't think Xania's objections have been reasonably countered (and think snubbing him/her isn't conductive for harmony). The lesson here is patience and restraint, I believe.

I'm off in a few hours and since I have no attachments to this book, I won't make a case out of it -- but I urge you to reopen the debate to finish the discussion (if Xania wants the book, then the there is only one question: does the book currently violate policy -- I'd say no and therefore proposed the compromise). --Swift 06:23, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

hey, how do you delete images
Hey herby, is it possible to delete images from the server, images that have been uploaded? Li 14:00, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

Blocked : )
Morning Herby! No, I was testing my changes to MediaWiki:Blockedtext to see if they would show up correctly to other blocked users. --Az1568(Talk) 08:42, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Sure, I'll probably add it later today. (it's 12:51 AM for me) --Az1568(Talk) 08:53, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

Wikijunior Naming Convention
What we are using is "Wikijunior %Book Title%" with no slashes or colons. So I think the book is named in accordance with the others. The colon has a special meaning (I think it designates a separate name space?) so I had always assumed that was why all the books weren't named "Wikijunior: %Book Title%" (e.g. Wikijunior: South America) All things being equal, I'd support renaming everything with the Wikijunior: %Book Title% format. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by xixtas (talk • contribs).

Checkuser
I noticed your request while on Whiteknight's talk page. You need to go to requests for permissions and request such a thing. However, CheckUser is done in pairs by how I see it so your voting buddy needs to be at 25 Support as well before it can happen. Since we already have two users that might not matter, but it can't hurt to wait I would think. -within focus 02:18, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

VfD candidate and a probable Copyright Violation
If you can try to check Ghost_Online/Monster page it doesn't have any links coming from other pages, it is active, and it has pictures that are probably wrongly used. (see the link at the bottom of the page) --Panic 18:50, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

Other book with a similar problem is Gears_of_War_Guide/Table_of_Contents... --Panic 23:33, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Hmm... that looks like a cut and paste from List of Gears of War characters & adversaries, he even left the refs [1] in the text.--Az1568(Talk) 23:37, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

Bot Help with Typo
The template used for Wikijunior Bugs had a typo (metamorphosis not metamorphisis) can you fix it up easily? If not I can do them one by one. --xixtas

Happy new year to you too
Well... the title says it all. :-) --Dragontamer 01:05, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

Proxy
Yay more proxies! MichaelBillington from Wikiversity just sent me the full 15 lists :) Hopefully, will get all of them blocked this month or next month.--Az1568(Talk) 10:47, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

PS: See User:Az1568/Proxy --Az1568(Talk) 11:13, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks for telling me about Section 1: How Science Works. Everybody makes mistakes some times and don't even realize them. Tannersf 12:35, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

Hey
Since you're awake at this hour (are you from America, or Europe?) and deleting stuff, I figured I'd tag some orphaned redirects for your deletion pleasure. I still wonder if there's a better way to see them, does the "orphaned pages" page usually include redirects? Regards, Mattb112885 10:33, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Sorry, one other random question; I can understand why we would want to delete orphaned fair use images (since they're not fair use if they're not being used), but why would we want to delete an orphaned PD image, if it's not doing any harm there? Unless we're worried about server space or there's a replacement on Commons or something... regards, Mattb112885 10:35, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Not sure about watchlists, but I clicked "what links here" and there was nothing at any of them. Maybe I should do a test to see if moving a page moves the watchlist link too or not. And I understand about the rambling, it's no problem :). Regards Mattb112885 10:40, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
 * OK after a real quick test I found that, indeed, the "what links here" does not include watchlist links. However this is not an issue because the new page is automatically added to peoples' watch lists when the page is moved, so any changes made will still be visible. Hope this helps. Regards, Mattb112885 10:50, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

Re: Request
Thanks for approaching me with this request. I will always be willing to help with this sort of thing in the future.

Urbane User 12:09, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

Bots?
Do you know what kinds of things can bots do? i have heard of them being used for checking for spelling errors, but that about it. What can they do and how do they work. Are they manual or automated?

any information regarding these would be greatly apreciated.

Urbane User 14:11, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

RFA Graphic
I personally don't find that to be much of a bite, and the user is by far no newbie to wiki projects since apparently he/she is a German Wikibooks administrator and has a large number of edits there. That graphic was obviously placed to stand out and had no purpose being there or being that large which I have to assume the user noticed due to their previous wiki experience yet still left which to me counts as being purposefully offensive. I'm also a bit confused why that user showed up here just to blast welcome messages across user pages. -within focus 17:11, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

Deletion for Kurt's articles
Hi Herby, I guess these two articles of Kurt were also supposed to be deleted? thank you, --Zddune 17:37, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Theology/Urantian theology
 * Urantia United Foreword

Personal Information
Yeah, I really don't like that link that you sent me. That page makes Wikibooks more useful to spam bots than actual students I would think. I feel that stuff like that should be taken down since the people listed there might not even want to be listed. -within focus 18:48, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
 * We'll see where the Staff Lounge discussion goes, but I think we need to remove those things. -within focus 21:28, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

[Re] Reg Hacking
Thanks for your kind help. I'm myself also looking for people who can help in expanding the book. Basically I want this book to be only dedicated for registry related tweaks. Thanks for the link, it is really useful. I hope to see some help from you side too :) -- seXie ♭♭c 11:57, 8 January 2007 (UTC) EDIT: What about a book on gpedit.msc (Group Policy editor) too? -- seXie ♭♭c 12:00, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

Checkuser
Congrats in the checkuser upgrade. If you have any questions about them, let me know. --Whiteknight (talk) (projects) 20:51, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
 * I've answered on my user talk on meta. M/ 15:07, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

Hello from WikiCast..
Hi

A recipe in the WikiBooks Cookbook on which you assisted is being considered for adaptation by WikiCast, a project aiming to produce 'free' content audio programmes for download or pod cast.

As you assisted on the recipe it would be appreciated if you got in touch? I have a user page on en:Wikipedia. ShakespeareFan00 02:10, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

Job
Hi Herbythyme,

i have read your Message at my talk page. I would try to do it. One question if how meny edits i should add him/her (between 10-20 bigger one or 30-50 of smaller and typos)?

Thanks for the offer and a good day wishs --Sundance Raphael 17:08, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

Mach's principle new stub page
Hi Herbythyme me creating the Mach's principle stub page was not an error. 68.40.191.129 09:14, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

Re: Applescript Programming
Hi and thanks for the welcomes. I was wondering if this redirection can be killed? I don't consider it nessessary. I think it'll be only beneficial if that address/path don't exist. As it will, for example, shorten search-result. --F-3000 13:41, 12 January 2007 (UTC)


 * I'll limit the question asking to "wikibooks", of course. :) But if you have any thoughts how I could/should improve the appearance of my "tutorial", I will appreciate it great deal if you'll let me know. --F-3000 14:29, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

Re: That one!
Well... that was fun : ) looks like my autoblock script works but it's using the wrong reason. :P - I'll get it fixed sooner or later.--Az1568(Talk) 09:04, 13 January 2007 (UTC)


 * No problem - as for that page, I've never heard of that language or seen it on enwp so it could be made up. I would leave a note on the authors talk page first tho, before going any further afd, speedy .etc--Az1568(Talk) 09:28, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Night : ) --Az1568(Talk) 09:41, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

Someone just decided to change the entire language :P (see this diff) - weird --Az1568(Talk) 01:24, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

User talk
Herbythyme, i need some guidance.

Upon editing my userpage and talk page something has gone wrong. For some reason my talk page is now protected and, whenever i try to do anything with it, add a comment or change anything i receive a link the a redirect page, which tells me "this page has been protected from recreation due to repeat vandalism". I checked, and there is only me who has done anyhitng to it recently.

Do you know what would cause this? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Urbane User (talk • contribs) 17:44, 13 Jan 2007 (UTC)

Cookbook copyvios
G'day mate. I took a look at the Cookbook: copyvios, and can't see why you would feel the need to seek a second opinion. Each instance looks to be a fairly clear case of copyvio, generally word-for-word, and many of them explicitly declaring a copyright notice on the source page or elsewhere on the source website. cheers, Webaware talk 00:57, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

The new Naijigo wikibook
Have you seen Naijigo? I am pretty sure it is a newly-constructed and undocumented conlang. If it is such, it should not be on Wikibooks. I want to talk to the contributors and ask them if my inclinations are correct. I'm rather exhausted, however, and have noticed that I am not as amiable as I think I might be when chatting online. Would you consider dealing with the situation? I would really, really appreciate that. Please tell me whether you decide to or not to. User:Iamunknown 01:42, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

Do you want to volunteer as a potential member of editorial boards?
See Volunteer_editors

Also Editorial board,Wikipublish and the discussion in the staff lounge. RobinH 15:10, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

Stop Deleting
It's vandalism boyo! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 194.82.168.3 (talk • contribs) 11:13, 16 Jan 2007 (UTC)

Oversight
User:Herbythyme I think you just moved the discussion about Oversight permission form the staff lounge to Requests for adminship, it would be advantageous that a note should be placed there if you agree with my assertion. --Panic 17:39, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

Thanks!
Thanks for reverting the vandalism on my usertalk page. this one actually made me laugh! --Whiteknight (talk) (projects) 21:37, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks for the welcome, Herby! --A R King 08:24, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

Wikijunior Bot Run
Thanks for doing that. I don't know whether individual articles should be in that Natural World Category or not. I guess so. But I don't know how this is handled in other books. --xixtas 14:45, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
 * My thanks also Urbane User (Talk)   (Contributions)  19:16, 17 January 2007 (UTC)


 * Herby, I'm sorry I didn't respond to your questions more quickly. I should have, and I intended to. The only explanation I have is that I'm somewhat uncomfortable with being regarded as a Wikijunior authority. I didn't know the answer to the second question, and hadn't made it around to finishing up the template for bugs yet. There's a lot of stuff around here that I don't understand, and how and why certain pages are categorized the way they are (or are not) is definitely one of them. --xixtas 04:38, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

Page blanking
moving to a new name Basic Geography from Pre-university Geography Franko2nd 16:32, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

yes please, i decided the old name was naff Franko2nd 16:39, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

Re: Idle curiosity
I was cleaning my user page's history (see Special:Undelete) It's somewhat like oversight but without having the reversions being permanently hidden.--Az1568(Talk) 03:36, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
 * BTW see this User_talk:Az1568. So please change the part that says wpCreateAccount to {x.checked=false;} }) in your js. thx : ) --Az1568(Talk) 05:24, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

Your thoughts on the staff lounge
If you have time and would like to get involved, please consider adding your thoughts to my staff lounge brainstorming page. --User:Iamunknown 05:10, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

Re:Help request page
can you help at all? This is a wiki, and everybody can help! I don't need to tell you, one of the most terminally helpful people we have. The way I see it, we have a few small sub-tasks involved in creating this new page: This brings up my next question, when do we want to deliver the next gazette? --Whiteknight (talk) (projects) 13:49, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
 * 1) Delete/archive all the old entries on WB:VIP.
 * 2) Draft the new page (we need a name for it), Get Help, or Help Request would be good candidates, or Contact Staff.
 * 3) Redirect the old WB:VIP and Administrator's noticeboard pages to the new page.
 * 4) Update the text in the deletion policy, and any other policy pages (including the welcome template) to point to the new page in lieu of the old pages
 * 5) Get all the admins to put the new page on their watchlists (possibly by including mention of it in the gazette).

Spelling
Hi Herby, I will accept you help and if you have the time I will ask you to keep an eye on Arbitration/Panic2k4 vs. SBJohnny/Defendant Rebuttal and provide any spelling correction you are able to. txs for any help you may provide. --Panic 20:22, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
 * I've made a couple of small spelling changes (& will look again tomorrow). I do think you need to break up the first paragraph to make it readable.  I will help to make your words better if I can -- Herby  talk thyme 20:48, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Txs I'm about finished, without getting involved since you are reading the stuff if you see anyway I can provide more useful information or state anything more clearly or improve upon I'll appreciate...
 * I will finish probably tomorrow with the closing words section, txs again for the help. --Panic 02:04, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
 * I have made some minor adjustments to your text in terms of spelling and punctuation but you must revert anything you feel does not reflect your views. However I do feel you should look again at the "Paddu paragraphs" as these are not easily readable to me.  Breaking it up into smaller sentences may help and I will happily review it again if you wish me to do so.  Regards -- Herby  talk thyme 11:07, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

Pong
A good day to you too, and thanks for the thumbs up. Rwst 09:44, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

ERP Internals
Yes, the two sections are duplicates. Sorry, I'm still figuring out the system. [[User:AlanClifford|AlanClifford

Images
G'day, I've listed the images for undeletion on Votes for undeletion. Unfortunately, this only takes into account images that I can see red links for - there are doubtless a large number of other images similarly deleted in error, but for which there are no red links, due to the tireless efforts of the "image cleanup" crew in the days leading up to the Season of Jolly :( Webaware talk 02:33, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

Ofer the Fawn - The Water Riddle
Hello there - I was wondering about your post (in my user) - isn't wikibook publishing PDF files of published books? I uploaded the PDF file (it is GNU copyright by the author) yet you wrote me about deletion. Please clarify. It is an amazing work, published and sold, the author just released the PDF source for free. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Moshe buchrai (talk • contribs) 08:31, 20 Jan 2007 (UTC)

please delete files
hi herby, i restructured some of the material into fewer categories ad i was hoping you might be able to help by deleting a few files. the files are


 * Animal Behavior/Definition of Animal Behavior
 * Animal Behavior/Tinbergen's 4 Aims
 * Animal Behavior/History of Animal Behavior
 * Animal Behavior/History of Psychophysics
 * Animal Behavior/History of Psychoanalysis
 * Animal Behavior/History of Behaviorism
 * Animal Behavior/History of Neuroscience
 * Animal Behavior/History of Ethology
 * Animal Behavior/History of Behavioral Genetics
 * Animal Behavior/History of Behavioral Ecology
 * Sociobiology
 * Animal Behavior/History of Neuroethology

thanks a major stack, ciao, Robert Huber 11:22, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

undeletion
I undeleted Cookbook:Microwave Oven as it is a better-than-nothing page on a standard piece of equipment. I didn't see any VFD for it anywhere, though you mentioned one in your deletion comment. Kellen T 18:47, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Jaha! Yeah I think the recipes are more the things that need to die, but the ingredient/equipment pages are generally okay as stubs. Cheers. Kellen T 19:06, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

Question & templates
Herbythyme,

How are things?

I was wondering, if i had a piece of text that i frequently had to write, is there a way to make this into a template of sorts. i.e. like the user signiture appearing with the use of the four tildes. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Urbane User (talk • contribs) 10:12, 21 Jan 2007 (UTC)


 * I was thinking something along the lines of welcome templates, for example. I would like to begin sending out welcome messages to new user, like the one i received from you. However i do not relish the idea of typing each one in their entirity. Is there a way of saving a large block of text, and then inserting it into a discussion page without copying and pasting? By typing a shortcut or similar?  —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Urbane User (talk • contribs) 10:25, 21 Jan 2007  (UTC)

Keep an eye
On this page Japanese:_Basic_Japanese someone create it with some "spam", I removed the "spam" but did not tag the page, if no evolution is detected on it it should be SD I think. Txs. --Panic 07:22, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks -- Herby talk thyme 08:11, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

Of words and swords
G'day mate, and thanks. I always find that the word is mightier than the boot. cheers, Webaware talk 10:18, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

Welsh
Good to see someone getting involved in the learn Welsh book, but can I ask : Why change Gymru back to Cymru? What did you base this on? Kijog 17:12, 22 January 2007 (UTC)


 * Thaks for the {welcome} :-). SallesNeto BR 17:36, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the welcome
It's always funny when I get one of those now. I average over 1000 edits per month at the English Wikipedia, so I really don't consider myself "new" anymore. I've also done a bit of editing here, too (enough to realize the differences). Aside from what the guideboook for Wikipedians says, is there anything that you regularly see Wikipedians run afoul of here? Things especially experienced Wikipedians tend to do that ruffle the feathers over here? Things I should avoid. :-) Have a great day! --Willscrlt 13:41, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
 * P.S. I love your user account name. :-) I wish the WikiProject Herbs and Spices at Wikipedia would pick up. I'd be much more interested in that than mixed drinks (which has become my specialty niche at Wikipedia and now here). --Willscrlt 13:42, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
 * So avoid Wikifying everything, eh? I shall do my best to restrain myself. Hehe. Thanks for the warning. Here is the link to WikiProject Herbs and spices. The project is currently in inactive status, and I am afraid it is likely to get deleted (hopefully WikiBooks is not as big into deleting things quite so much) unless we can show some modest interest in it. --Willscrlt 14:44, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Let's try that again: WikiProject Herbs and spices and if that doesn't work, just go to Wikipedia and use the shortcut WP:HERBS which I just setup. I also took the project off of inactive status. As to deletionism, I'm rather middle of the road. I just look at the article, and depending on a lot of different issues, I make choices accordingly. Generally, I tend to pull the useful info into other places where it is a good fit, and then create a redirect. Of course, so far, I've mostly been editing mixed drinks and cocktails, and since "Wikipedia is not a collection of recipes" and nearly every article I edit contains a recipe, I've been dealing with a lot of deletion on those grounds. :-) I've mellowed a lot since I started, but it was really frustrating when I was starting out. --Willscrlt (Talk&middot;Cntrb ) 16:12, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for pointing out the signature problem. That was embarrassing, and I hadn't noticed yet. Let's hope this works now. --Willscrlt (Talk&middot;Cntrb ) 12:00, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks for the pointer. Urbane User (Talk)   (Contributions)  14:33, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

Much thanks
I thank you for the welcome note. --Odhiambo 02:41, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

rehi Herby
I'm back... somewhat darker skinned and quite refreshed :). As for the Wikiversity stuff, maybe just let me know which pages are being worked on and I'll try to see if they've already been imported. Wikiversity moves out of the "beta" phase at the end of February, after which I plan to do some vigorous deleting (and perhaps scrapbooking stuff to be merged into textbooks). -- SB_Johnny | talk 12:40, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

pseudonyms
User:Wknight8111 is indeed a pseudonym of mine. The username w:User:Whiteknight is owned by another user on wikipedia, so on that project my primary account is w:User:wknigh8111 (if you can refer to my inactivity as "primary"). When SUL happens, I will be the owner of both account names (along with User:Andrew Whitworth, which i've reserved here and on meta). --Whiteknight (talk) (projects) 22:50, 28 January 2007 (UTC)


 * Sorry, i didn't even see the punctuation error! The page was created in error, some time ago, by my bot. Thanks for catching it, I've just deleted it. --Whiteknight (talk) (projects) 15:09, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

On Wikibreak?
I haven't been as active around here recently as I would have liked, but I'm active enough to know that you seem busy/disgruntled. I hope you aren't too stressed out! --Whiteknight (talk) (projects) 20:22, 30 January 2007 (UTC)


 * I can certainly understand your sentiment about this, and I had no idea that the VfD issue was one that frustrated you so badly! On issues that I don't have a strong opinion about (such as this VfD issue), I tend to follow the lead of people who do have strong opinions. My reasoning here is that the people who care strongly are more likely to have thought about the issue in more depth then I ever would. My laissez-faire approach to such matters is perhaps not admirable, however.
 * There have been mixed feelings about the cookbook for as long as I can remember, even long before it got it's own namespace. People claiming that it isn't a textbook, or that it violates all sorts of other policies. The creation of the namespace was supposed to aide in organization, but people have been grmbling ever since that it created an unnecessary rift in the community here. Unfortunately, I can't say I have a strong opinion on this issue either, as I have spent no time interacting with the cookbook at all. I do think it is probably too late now to make the cookbook an "ordinary" book.
 * Policy matters are always very frustrating, there are certainly alot of people here who refuse to make progress. People who do want to make progress get frustrated and leave. I originally fought so hard for the Decision making proposal specifically because I didn't want the hard-working movers and shakers to be stymied by the critics and nay-sayers. However, that guideline just doesnt seem to be enough to overcome these problems.
 * On a personal note, I hope that you feel better about this, and that you find a way to enjoy wikibooks again in the way that it should be enjoyed. Nobody comes to this webpage because it's a requirement or a "job", we are all here because we either believe in the mission, or because we find some enjoyment in it. It is my sincere hope that you can continue to find some small measure of happiness in it still. --Whiteknight (talk) (projects) 15:39, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

Re:Comment
User:Withinfocus has announced his decision to have Panic blocked at the end of the arbitration. He has given Panic about a 24 hour window to post and last rebuttals before the block takes effect. It is for this reason, i think, that panic's posts have become more petulant and less helpful. I do not fault him for this. --Whiteknight (talk) (projects) 19:16, 1 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Involved or not, I'm just happy to hear from you! i'm just worried that the day will come when all our most valuable contributors get tired of this little place and leave forever. --Whiteknight (talk) (projects)

Finance To-Do & Contributors
Hi Herby, Thanks for dropping a line - I will redirect them to the Principles of Finance To Do and Contributor respectively.

--Venky 08:58, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Hi can the pages be deleted? I favor deletion over redirect as there will be unnecessary page on the site.


 * --Venky 09:04, 2 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Hi Herby, thanks a lot for the deletion template. I have used the { { deletedpage } } template to delete it. You have been a great help. Thank you.


 * --Venky 12:46, 2 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Hi Herby, I require help from you regarding the InfoBox. I used the bi template and it still does not show the infobox. Can you please take a look at it when you are free and let me know where or what I am doing wrong. Thanks in advance.
 * --Venky 13:10, 2 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Hi herby, thanks for the tip about the user boxes. Also, I will make the necessary changes to the old To do and contributors page. I was talking about the bi template. That has to be put in for the infobox, yes the infoboxes for both Finance and Principles of Finance exist. Before deleting the infobox for Finance, I wanted to cross check with you.
 * --Venky 08:50, 3 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Hi Herby, thanks for the speedy deletion and also the tip about the signature,I want to know how you have made the small superscript where people can click on it to come to the talk page, I tried it by using your siggy but it didnt work. Actually, what I meant was I was trying to incorporate the Principles of Finance Infobox into the main page and I was unable to do so. Can you take a look at it and tell me what is it that I should do to get it right? Thanks once again.
 * --Venky 13:35, 3 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Thanks Herby for the tip. I finally realised what I was doing wrong, I had not checked the raw signature box, :), now it is working, :D Thanks a lot.
 * -- Venky Msg Me 07:56, 4 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Hi Herby, thanks for checking out the Infobox for me. The problem is the infobox is not appearing on the page like it does on say the French book, where it appears on the top right hand corner if you use the default theme.
 * -- Venky Msg Me 16:27, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

Good to see you back
Hey Herby, its good to see you around now, we all really appreciate the work you've put into the project. I hope that for all of us, politics will not get in the way any longer of the goal of the project, which is (in my opinion) the collaborative production of content. I know you have the best interests of the project in mind, and we respect and appreciate that. Regards, Mattb112885 03:59, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

Puzzled
There must be a reason for your moving Sweet Rice, but I'm puzzled: A search on "Sweet rice" no longer locates the recipe. And that recipe is linked to the Amar's Tofu recipe. Please help me understand the reason for the move and how folks will now find Sweet Rice. Thanks. Frankatca 00:35, 4 February 2007 (UTC)


 * *pop in* I'll pop in and answer this one. Frank, all the cookbook-related modules need to have the prefix "Cookbook:," thus, the module on sweet rice should be at Cookbook:Sweet rice. It is unfortunate that when users search, the cookbook is not also searched by default; that can be changed by an administrator, but I'm unsure how. I'm sure that next week when more administrators are online, someone will know how to fix the problem. Thanks for your interest in Wikibooks! *pop out* --Iamunknown 01:01, 4 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Thanks, a bunch. I've now fixed the link to the sweet rice so it all works. I agree, that when in the Cookbook, adding a page to the cookbook should happen by default. I'm new to Wikibooks, but not the the main Wikipedia where I've been active for some time. I'll be adding a bunch of recipes to the cookbook over time. thanks for the help. Frankatca 18:01, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

Learning kitesurfing - new book
Hi. I just created a user account on Wikibooks and you left a message on my talk page. I have been working on the Wikipedia article on kitesurfing, which was recently tagged to indicate some of the "how to" content should be shifted to a Wikibook. Do you think this is a good idea? Should I create a Wikibook called "Learning kitesurfing"? Peter Campbell 10:44, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

New Media Art
I consider this work as a typical example of Original Research. The book does not cite any sources and I doubt it could cite any. However, SBJohnny insists it is a legitimate wikibook. I don't have time to carefully read New Media Art/Introduction, but for me the book does not fit here. --Derbeth talk 16:23, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure if threatening an user with block for adding pages incompliant with our policies is a good strategy. Please be more patient and do not bite the newcomers. Sometimes it's better just to repeat a request then to make a threat. If we aren't polite, new authors won't come here. --Derbeth talk 19:52, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

Re:Why
It was a single instance, 2 hours is likely enough for the vandal to get bored and go on to other things. Anything longer would be pretty pretentious of me, that a vandalism of my user page warrants some kind of quick and decisive action. I didn't check if it was an open proxy or anything either, which I likely should have done. --Whiteknight (talk) (projects) 15:25, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

Have a good break
I value the work you have done here. Thanks for all the help you have given me. I look forward to seeing you around when you get back. --xixtas 03:09, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

Redirect script
G'day mate, that script you told me about, that highlights redirects, has just been updated. It now works properly, and faster. cheers, Webaware talk 09:19, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

Request for oversight
While there hasn't been as many people weighing in as I would have liked, I'd like to get things set up for working things out with Panic. I'm not biased either for or against him, I just want to get a permanent resolution to the issue so that it won't keep coming up over and over, and there's some concern that I might not be seen as entirely neutral by some.

My approach will just be to try to get him to come up with a set of guidelines for himself to follow in order to avoid future conflicts (or at least defusing them before they get over the top). Would you be willing to oversee this process as a neutral party? -- SB_Johnny | talk 14:37, 15 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Well, I doubt there will be unanimous support, but hopefully not too many more arrows will fly around. I'll post something in the Staff lounge about it, discussing the block as well. My hope is that the process will be quick and quiet, and that the end result will be satisfactory to everyone, including Panic. -- SB_Johnny | talk 15:48, 15 February 2007 (UTC)


 * OK, have done here. I'm not entirely sure what you mean by "firm about a real agreement" though... -- SB_Johnny | talk 16:13, 15 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Herby, are you requiring a second round of "voting" on the SL, or is "no further objection" sufficient? There was fairly solid support for going forward with just me on the case (even Xania, the one objector, made it clear that he was willing to give it a chance since there seems to be a lack of alternatives), so I doubt any further objections will come to light because of your involvement (quite the contrary!). I ask because I'd like to just move forward and get the process moving... both because I want it out of the way and because I want Panic to be unblocked as soon as possible (I had left him a note to this effect on his talk earlier: the time required is up to him, and if he commits to a positive resolution tomorrow, he should be unblocked tomorrow).
 * Also just a technical matter: since we're agreed about switching the block to indefinite, should you make that change, or should I? Likewise when it's time to unblock, though when that time comes I think we should just make sure each of us agrees (but you're the boss... if you decide to unblock before I think it's time, I will not argue (much), but please give me time to comment before acting on that).
 * BTW, please make sure to add Panic's user talk to your watchlist. -- SB_Johnny | talk 18:11, 15 February 2007 (UTC)


 * For what little my support is worth, you have it 100%. --Whiteknight (talk) (projects) 00:25, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

Same goes for me... on both counts. I'll mostly be working on commons this morning, so ping me there if you're around. -- SB_Johnny | talk 12:09, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

Phew! Anyone else we can encourage to do likewise?
Maybe now we won't end up with every recipe being redundantly listed in Category:Recipes with metric units. :-) Webaware talk 00:21, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

Thanks
No worries. What you say makes a lot of sense. Less talking more action!

Afraid my contributions will be a bit sporadic as I fit them in among work and personal life, but I'll keep chipping away as I can. --AdRiley 12:20, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

thanks
Thanks very much for your kind intorduction to wikibooks. It's very nice to have someone politely giving helpful advice to us new to the project. DavidMcKenzie 16:13, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

Impartial
You and I have had discussions about the process and you've shared your opinion sometimes on the matter at various pages. You are much more impartial than most but I don't want your past, if anything, to affect the proceedings. Bringing in another person that could be accused of bias or some other garbage is what concerns me, so please do not be personally offended. This is not about you but about bringing in another person. My advice would be to "OK it" with the community, that bringing you in to be (yet another) overseer of sorts just to make sure you really have the community behind you. Making sure this process occurs without strong objection is what I'm concerned about. -within focus 19:08, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
 * I did indeed notice that you want consensus before proceeding and that's the correct step. Johnny responded in a bit of a "I think we can just do it" way that I wanted to stay away from. I'm sure you've got the right idea and I don't want to interfere or get involved with the process any more than I have, so good luck. Whiteknight said it correctly when you are most likely "least partial." -within focus 19:28, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

Re. Your message on my talk page
This has nothing whatsoever to do with your involvement. In fact I posted on someone's talk page (possibly SBJohnny's) only 2 days ago saying that you would be the perfect person to try to sort out this mess. I realise that some of my comments have been hasty but I still think my unblocking was partially justified but for now I'm trying to stay out of it all. Good luck. Xania talk 22:43, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

Thanks
Thank you for the helpful comments that you left us on our Talk Page. -- The Boston Boys Fantasy Baseball League 03:38, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

puppet thing
There's more than enough info to go on... the "topic" of the spambot-generated stuff on wikipedia (from the IP) is ample evidence. They haven't done the CU yet, but the additional comment on the request only makes it more clear. -- SB_Johnny | talk 17:27, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

SL, Archives
I've never been a fan of archives myself, but there are plenty of people who would groan if i toyed around with the archive links. I didn't want to do too much (although I did want to do a lot). We can fix the archive box later, if we need to. --Whiteknight (talk) (projects) 21:12, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

Question about an edit
Panic asked me about this edit, mind leaving him a note? -- SB_Johnny | talk 16:12, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

Blocks
Thanks for the heads up. I won't be needing any further information on the topic I believe. I like that he created the user "WithoutFocus" which is very funny to me even though it doesn't make much sense since my username isn't "WithFocus". -<font color="#000000">within <font color="#7A7A7A">focus 16:49, 22 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Blocks wont work, Sock Puppets should be ignored until they do harm (no one can catch them all), Herby did check it for an Open Proxy but that will also not work, there are many ways it can be done and is indeed being done. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 66.165.117.2 (talk • contribs) 18:59, 22 Feb 2007  (UTC)


 * I have little idea who you are but I consider your post threatening - if you are a Wikibookian it is extremely uncivil and I do assure you it would be unwise to take that approach with me -- Herby talk thyme 19:09, 22 February 2007 (UTC)


 * You have the right idea, but threatening (come on...), it is also not uncivil, I'm not behaving in any improper way (well I'm actively contesting SB Jhonny a bit at most, passive objections are taking to long), the rest is just a statement of facts. Sock Puppets can't be avoided, but I'll continue the discussion on the Block policy, feel free to join. --Cinap(se) 19:21, 22 February 2007 (UTC) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Cinap(se) (talk • contribs) 19:21, 22 Feb 2007 (UTC)


 * Using sockpuppets to taunt other users is most certainly uncivil. -- xixtas talk 01:22, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

Re: Your block
This guy has been vandalising Polish Wikimedia projects as well as English & German Wikipedia for a long time. All his contributions in more than half a year were vandalisms (see block log on Polish Wikipedia). You can also take a look at results of my CheckUser request on Meta. This is Polish IP so I doubt its owner would make legitimate edits to English Wikibooks and there is a threat that he would vandalise here as well. --Derbeth talk 22:31, 23 February 2007 (UTC)


 * 1) Yes, please.
 * 2) I blocked it for 2 years, Wikipedia says it's an open proxy.
 * 3) Wikipedia has no mention of this IP being an open proxy, so IMO 2 years is just enough. Owner of this IP may change in this time. I don't like infinite blocks due to this reason, additionally WikiProject on open proxies on Meta also suggests a limited block for open proxies.
 * 4) In case of long-term vandalism, without normal edits, but also without evidence of the IP being open proxy, I suggest 3- or 6-month blocks. It's enough in most cases, but here I see a long history of blocks, so I suggest 1 year. --Derbeth talk 12:09, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

Noahw
Yes. I will try. -- xixtas talk 13:41, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

Our friends...
Are commons people... I've been on IRC with them all morning. -- SB_Johnny | talk 17:04, 24 February 2007 (UTC)