User talk:HMaloigne/sandbox/Approaches to Knowledge/2020-21/Seminar group 17/Truth

Truth in Suicide Prevention
Hey guys, I realised I'd forgotten to make a discussion page after I'd added my contrib "Truth in suicide prevention". Please leave a message underneath if you have any comments regarding my piece. Thanks in advance :) BASc to the future (discuss • contribs) 10:08, 1 November 2020 (UTC)


 * You should really look up the Durkheim as an example here. the sociological research of suicide by Durkheim and how it links with social institutions may add a unique perspective to your contribution!Kyoshiwarrior (discuss • contribs) 22:53, 2 November 2020 (UTC)Kyoshiwarrior


 * I think the 'Truth in suicide prevention' contribution is really clear and concise, includes theoretical approaches and statistical evidence in a really well integrated way. You could capitalise the title perhaps, and could potentially consider including the statistics regarding women's attempts at suicide surpassing rates of men's attempts - might be interesting! From 11er467va


 * I agree with the above, I think it aptly describes the current issues in data collection of suicide, I did think it may be interesting to look into how the definition of "suicide" could potentially impact the numbers collected, i.e. would euthanasia be considered suicide in some cultures and could this change the perception of suicide occurrences? Not sure if one could define the "Truth" of a subject on how it is define? Brokentelevision2020 (discuss • contribs)


 * That's a very interesting point you bing up. I'll have a look if I can find more on the definition of suicide! Thanks. BASc to the future (discuss • contribs) 09:57, 5 November 2020 (UTC)


 * It would certainly be interesting to investigate why the ratio attempted/succesful suicides is so different between the genders. I recall (from general knowledge) that males tend to choose for more violent suicide methods. I'll have a look if I can incorporate that, but I'm running low on available word count. Thanks for your comment. BASc to the future (discuss • contribs) 09:57, 5 November 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for your comments. I have now incorporated BrokenTelevision2020's comment on the definition of suicide in the positivist truth section.I also added a bit on traditional suicide in Japan as a social construct in the constructivist truth part. BASc to the future (discuss • contribs) 14:42, 5 November 2020 (UTC)

I just updated bits of my contribution. I still have to add two more sub points. I would love input as this is the first time I've kinda gone crazy with the assignment. Let me know :) Thanks! Kyoshiwarrior (discuss • contribs) 22:49, 2 November 2020 (UTC)Kyoshiwarrior

Truth in Astronomy: the Approach to Black Holes

 * The astronomy contribution was really informative to someone with no knowledge of the subject! I really like that you've chosen a discipline with an empirical emphasis with regard to truth to illustrate two approaches in discovering it. I noticed one typo where you've added a singular 's' when it should be without ('bends'), and perhaps the need for a comma after 'not even photons of light'? From 11er467va
 * Thank you, I didn't see them indeed. These are going to be corrected now. --Kuramae (discuss • contribs) 22:12, 5 November 2020 (UTC)


 * I really liked this contribution, I found the observational approach of defining something not by "what it is" but perhaps by "what it isn't" very interesting, being that the black hole is only visible by what is around it (i.e. not itself). Brokentelevision2020 (discuss • contribs)
 * Thank you for your opinion, I appreciate it.--Kuramae (discuss • contribs) 22:12, 5 November 2020 (UTC)

Truth and the Media
I like how you first explained the three different types of truth theory in media and then gave a specific example of it. It was very clear to understand. I corrected some minor typo mistakes. I saw that there is currently only one reference available in the last section, will other sources be added to it later on?--Kuramae (discuss • contribs) 22:53, 5 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Thank you! I have added the other citations as well. Kyoshiwarrior (discuss • contribs) 19:17, 9 November 2020 (UTC)Kyoshiwarrior

Truth in Ethnography
I really liked this contribution. I have one interesting thing maybe you could look up and incorporate.A lot of cultural and anthropological studies are often labeled 'ethnocentric'. This is when someone evaluates another culture according to preconceptions originating in the standards and customs of one's own culture.Maybe including that bit would really round up your contribution. Kyoshiwarrior (discuss • contribs) 17:08, 5 November 2020 (UTC)Kyoshiwarrior

General comments
I've gone over some minor typo's in pieces (missing ".", double spacing, etc.), and fixed the consistency of in-text citations. Also removed double references from the reference list (see one of the other discussion pages why). BASc to the future (discuss • contribs) 12:59, 9 November 2020 (UTC)

Truth in law
I added my part on truth in law if you have any advice don't hesitate. I know this is very last minute... Uclqmtr (discuss • contribs) 01:24, 10 November 2020 (UTC)
 * I like how you've shown how the concepts of truth and justice clash in law. I also like how you've linked the theory of truth to a specific form of law as well as recognised there is some subjectivities of truth in testimonies too. Kyoshiwarrior (discuss • contribs) 16:35, 10 November 2020 (UTC)Kyoshiwarrior