User talk:HMaloigne/sandbox/Approaches to Knowledge/2020-21/Seminar group 17/Power

Power of the Church and its Denial of the Heliocentric Model
I'm thinking of writing a piece on this subject. The power structures I have thought of at the moment are:
 * The power of the church over general opinion
 * The power of prior knowledge in biasing the public opinion
 * The power that the church's rejection had on future work in this field

Love to hear your opinions/comments. Please edit my work freely after I'm done but leave a comment what you changed. BASc to the future (discuss • contribs) 17:25, 5 November 2020 (UTC)


 * Not sure if this might be going too interdisciplinary (as it goes into art history) for the sandbox but I know that the catholic church controlled a lot the art that was produced in the Classical, Byzantine, Medieval, Gothic art periods by only allowing or even distributing art materials to artists that painted visual representations of religious themes / the divine. This has a big impact/powerful influence on European art and the perceptions people had of art in general. Brokentelevision2020 (discuss • contribs)
 * Thanks for the comment. Your point is certainly applicable to heliocentric theory too: books by Nicolaus Copernicus and Galileo Galilei were added to the "index", a list of books considered heretic by the Roman Catholic church. If the inquisition found these books in your possession you would most likely have been executed for heresy. I've written that in my piece too: is that what you meant? BASc to the future (discuss • contribs) 11:24, 7 November 2020 (UTC)


 * From 11er467 to  BASc to the future Will you be focusing on a specific region - Catholicism, C of E, Christian etc? You could potentially include the position of power priests, vicars and bishops hold and the ramifications of this, not just that God does? Just a thought if you wanted to talk about the religion in practice too!
 * Good question. I'm thinking of Galileus and (maybe) Copernicus. That would mean it's mainly the Roman Catholic Church, but I'll definitely have a look if there are any significant differences between the different churches and their views. BASc to the future (discuss • contribs) 17:25, 5 November 2020 (UTC)


 * I've read your piece and I like how you managed to find three different forms of power and link them to a major theory of the modern world. Just added some links to other Wikipedia articles, that may be useful for someone who encounters some terms for the first time. Nuggethunter (discuss • contribs) 12:52, 7 November 2020 (UTC)Nuggethunter


 * Building on the above comment- maybe you could clearly mention what was an example of exercising "direct power"? Also added an image of the heliocentric model!
 * Thanks for your addition. The image looks wonderful next to the contribution. As for your comment, I would argue that "[...] the book could not be published and people in possession of it were trialed" is a clear example of direct power. Please let me know if you have other insights. BASc to the future (discuss • contribs) 12:26, 9 November 2020 (UTC)

How Power is Utilised within Dom/Sub Relationships in BDSM

 * Had a quick glance at your piece. It's very informative and you definitely illustrated the way they use power well. The only thing I noticed was that you mentioned BDSM to be part of sexuality studies. From what I've gathered, sexuality studies at UCL is only at PhD level, and I was just wondering whether that is a sufficient basis to consider this its own discipline, or whether it is still a part of sociology in the UK. Perhaps giving a short explanation or reference explaining why might clarify this. BASc to the future (discuss • contribs) 17:37, 5 November 2020 (UTC)

Issue of Power in Classical Music
If you have any suggests, comments, critiques, please let me know below. Thank you in advance.--Kuramae (discuss • contribs) 22:19, 5 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks for sharing your piece, I never realised there was such a gender imbalance in orchestrae. The direct and indirect power of the orchestra and their selection processes are very clear in your piece. However, it might be interesting to discuss whether there might be other factors (ethnicity, religion) that might have influence and their intersectionality with gender. BASc to the future (discuss • contribs) 12:53, 6 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Thank you for reading my contribution. In the beginning I wanted to add ethnicity into the contribution, however, I couldn't find enough sources to cover the topic. Given the word limitations, I decided to rather focus on one power issue and go in depth in this contribution, but if you are interested, here is a link for an article about race in classical music: https://www.theguardian.com/music/musicblog/2014/apr/04/class-race-and-classical-music-candace-allen--Kuramae (discuss • contribs) 17:30, 9 November 2020 (UTC)

Issues of Power in Education

 * I've just submitted my contribution on Power in education, any feedback or thoughts would be super appreciated!! Thanks Brokentelevision2020 (discuss • contribs)


 * I've read your piece. I really like the clear division between two the two categories of power observed in education. It would also be interesting if you'd discuss how those categories may interact with each other. Nuggethunter (discuss • contribs) 12:07, 7 November 2020 (UTC)Nuggethunter


 * Maybe talking about the "hidden curriculum" and how it relates to power in education might be interesting as it plays a key role in how society socialised individuals in a specific way to "make them more suitable for the workplace" - which is an example of indirect/institutionalised power and intersectional power. Overall, I really liked this contribution!Kyoshiwarrior (discuss • contribs) 22:07, 8 November 2020 (UTC)Kyoshiwarrior


 * You contribution gives a great overview of the issues of power occuring in education. One thing that I noticed is the sentence: 'under an 1880 Education Act under The 1870 Education Act.' The meaning of it isn't really clear to me, perhaps it could be formulated in a different way? I also linked both the 1880 and 1870 Educational Acts to their correspondent Wikipedia articles plus Robert Rosenthal as he did a lot of impactful work in the field of psychology so I think this would be useful for anyone interested in further reading.--Kuramae (discuss • contribs) 18:19, 9 November 2020 (UTC)

Power and the Indian Caste System
Hello! I just added my contribution on Power. I would love some feedback and/or know your thoughts. Kyoshiwarrior (discuss • contribs) 21:50, 8 November 2020 (UTC)Kyoshiwarrior
 * I found your article highly interesting and informative. The issue with the Caste System is almost unheard of for people living in Europe. However, I am not entirely sure if the Caste System is a discipline in itself, or which discipline it is a part of. I could think of social studies. I think a little justification might help in this case. --Kuramae (discuss • contribs) 18:02, 9 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your input! I think the Caste System itself is a part of Cultural Studies or Social Studies so I will be adding that to justify my contribution. Kyoshiwarrior (discuss • contribs) 18:27, 9 November 2020 (UTC)Kyoshiwarrior

Power and protests against anti-abortion laws
I've added my piece on power in Polish Politics and some recent events. If you have any thoughts or edits suggestions share them with me :)) Nuggethunter (discuss • contribs) 23:11, 8 November 2020 (UTC)Nuggethunter
 * I've had a look at your piece. You bring up some good points about the gender inequality in the Polish government. The one thing I've noticed, is that you've assumed that the knowledge in the second paragraph is general knowledge. And while it might be for a Polish citizen, it wasn't for me. If you're that specific with you statistics, it might be worthwhile to add references that support them. Speaking about references, don't forget to finish your citations in the reference list. BASc to the future (discuss • contribs) 12:33, 9 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Thank you for pointing that out. I took care of it. Nuggethunter (discuss • contribs) 18:15, 9 November 2020 (UTC)Nuggethunter