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Hello,

Categories at Wikibooks are used to group together pages in a book. They aren't used to group together individual pages from different books (e.g., by taking all the pages in different books that mention, say, fire, and adding them to a category called "Fire"). A proposal to do this was rejected several years ago. The category you created, Society, is therefore inappropriate. In addition adding the Pinyin category to the Ecology category with this edit is also inappropriate. The Ecology category holds all the pages for the book Ecology, and nothing else. The only category on the pages of the Pinyin book should be Category:Pinyin, or and nothing else. For example, adding "Drink" and "Health" as categories causes a problem as these categories are not specific to the book.

What you have been doing has unfortunately broken the Subject and Bookshelf system. If you really want sub-categorisation like this, you need to create a sub-category just for the book. That is, you need "Category:Pinyin/Drink" not "Category:Drink". The best example of where you are causing a problem is the category Trading, which you created and added to the category Pinyin. However, there is already a book called Trading, which is automatically categorised by our Subjects templates into the Trading category. It, therefore, was appearing in the Pinyin category, and consequently on the Languages bookshelf, instead of in the Finance category in the Economics bookshelf, which is where it should be.

I have, therefore, begun to move the categories you created and to modify the pages of the Pinyan book so they have book specific categories. Once this is done, you can categorise the category (but not the individual pages) to have them appear in more generic Subjects (but not in other books's categories). That is, you could for example add the category "Geography" to Category:Pinyin/Geograhy to make Pinyin/Geography appear on the Geography Subject page. However, you can't add the category "Ecology" to this page as it will cause the Pinyin pages to appear to be part of the Ecology book. I appreciate this can be quite complex to understand and it is sometimes difficult to distinguish Subjects from Categories to establish the appropriate use. I hope this makes sense but if not please ask. Thanks. QuiteUnusual (discuss • contribs) 10:03, 24 June 2015 (UTC)

Also, you need to be aware that adding a category means "include within". So adding the category Pinyin to the category Biology makes no sense. Biology is not part of Pinyin. Cell biology is a subdivision of Biology and so the Biology category is added to Cell biology (to include cell biology within Biology). I'll need to remove all these categorisations as they are messing up the Subject tree. QuiteUnusual (discuss • contribs) 11:59, 24 June 2015 (UTC)


 * Thanks.Efex3 (discuss • contribs) 13:22, 24 June 2015 (UTC)

Would you...
...like this deleted? --Atcovi (Talk - Contribs) 17:53, 19 November 2015 (UTC)


 * Okey, thank you.Efex3 (discuss • contribs) 18:00, 19 November 2015 (UTC)
 * ✅ --Atcovi (Talk - Contribs) 22:57, 19 November 2015 (UTC)

Mixed Languages
Hey Efex3! Your latest edit appears to be a mixture of Japanese and English. Please refrain from that.--Upaltez (discuss • contribs) 12:45, 8 December 2015 (UTC)


 * It is a page of English-Hanzi-Pinyin reading material for learning Chinese of the book Pinyin.Efex3 (discuss • contribs) 13:16, 8 December 2015 (UTC)

Are you just one person or a group?
Hope you don't mind a fellow Wikibook editor asking this question. A quick look through your history shows almost continuous editing. So I was just wondering if you are just a lone individual or a group of individuals. Now when I mean continuous editing I means on the level of remarkable. Of course I am curious since you seem to achieve an impossible level of editing.

Please answer these questionsː

Are you one person?

What nationality are you?

Which country do you reside in?

How do you maintain such an Olympic effort?

Can we expect you to maintain this routine?

What is in your heart and what is the purpose of your endeavour here?

Sluffs (discuss • contribs) 22:38, 18 July 2016 (UTC)


 * This book can be used for learning Chinese.Efex3 (discuss • contribs) 19:48, 19 July 2016 (UTC)

No it cannot. Language cannot be learned with a constant barrage of a lexicon that perpetuates itself by using current news accounts. If you want to write a book encouraging us to learn Chinese then do so but a dictionary of terms or phrases, regardless of the value you assign, goes at the site called Wiktionary. The link below is to the Chinese version of Wiktionary though maybe the English Wiktionary may also be of useː

https://ml.wiktionary.org/wiki/Chinese

Sluffs (discuss • contribs) 18:29, 20 July 2016 (UTC)

Why do you insist on news reporting here at Wikibooks?
Your silence to my other questions is obviously a choice that you seem to think has some wisdom or intelligence. So let me put the matter in no uncertain termsː


 * You are not actually writing a book
 * You are Chinese or some other related nationality.
 * Your claim to be an author is spurious.
 * You are determined to flood an English language site with Chinese something or other.
 * You know that most readers at Wikibooks are going to click your edits due to their volume.
 * All these news edits are some sort of device not really aimed at educating but instead allows your presence to be felt here.
 * You are never going to be accountable to this sort of questioning.
 * It is unimportant to you whether you provide something of value to English readers.
 * Your edits are a reflection of how you feel either about us or what you perceive we think about you or your nation.
 * Despite providing unwanted news you regard your mission at critical for some purpose which you will not disclose.

So I ask againː

What is in your heart and what is the purpose of your endeavour here at Wikibooks?

Sluffs (discuss • contribs) 18:16, 20 July 2016 (UTC)

I had not received notification that the author had replied to my previous post. Nevertheless I have nothing to retract from the list above since I still want the answer to how a barrage of words can teach anyone how to speak a language. Teach us - do not bombard us.

Sluffs (discuss • contribs) 18:35, 20 July 2016 (UTC)

Pinyin is a tool for learning Mandarin, and is used to explain both the grammar and spoken Mandarin. Pinyin's role in teaching pronunciation is similar to romanized Japanese or fully vocalised texts in Arabic ("vocalized Arabic").Efex3 (discuss • contribs) 18:51, 20 July 2016 (UTC)


 * I do believe tools can become weapons. The origin of our intelligence is based on such matters.

Sluffs (discuss • contribs) 21:56, 20 July 2016 (UTC)

Offering on an olive branch to bring peace
I don't want you to think badly of me so I'm offering an olive branch. I objected to your style because it seemed to be counter-productive to use the facade of providing translation material when you also chose to offer condemnation of everything but your own Chinese people and government.

Notably to offer the sentence "Five Palestinians killed by Israeli forces today" as an ideal translation vehicle for learning Chinese seems spurious. So I tried to engage you in conversation on your discussion page. Then I left some examples of how your style translates when applied to Chinese matters on my Sandbox Page. However I realize this is not a peaceful course that can lead to resolution or awareness.

I object strongly to the treatment of Palestinians by the government of Israel but I don't know if it would help someone wishing to learn Latin if I framed my exercises in such a manner.

Let me state that the issue is no longer important but I feel it is important to point out why I feel your inclusion of certain current news events are biased. It is your bias and so if you wish not to speak about it than that is your right.

Sluffs (discuss • contribs) 21:52, 20 July 2016 (UTC)

English-Hanzi/Tea
Can you please explain what this page is about? There is no corresponding book called English-Hanzi. If a purpose isn't identified and a book isn't developed then the page may be deleted.ЗAНИA talk 11:52, 5 December 2016 (UTC)


 * I am planning to create a book English-Hanzi which will contain pages of English-Hanzi reading materials for learning Chinese language written in Hanzi (Chinese characters).Efex3 (discuss • contribs) 16:58, 5 December 2016 (UTC)


 * How will such a book help people to learn to write Chinese Hanzi? Articles with translations won't help people unless there is something more substantial.ЗAНИA [[Image:Flag_of_the_Isle_of_Mann.svg|15px]]talk 09:39, 6 December 2016 (UTC)


 * The reading materials are provided mainly for reading.--Efex3 (discuss • contribs) 13:27, 6 December 2016 (UTC)


 * Links added like this could be more helpful.--Efex3 (discuss • contribs) 13:50, 6 December 2016 (UTC)

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English-Hanzi
English-Hanzi is useful for learning Chinese as well as English. Could we amend the pages like this for avoiding copyright violation?--Efex3 (discuss • contribs) 12:29, 29 March 2017 (UTC)

nǐhǎo ，jiǎng yīngyǔ de péngyǒu 你好，讲英语的朋友
jìnrì wǒ zài guānkàn wéijī fūyùchǎng zhōng zàntíng de hànyǔpīnyīn wéijī xiàngmù de shíhòu ，tūfāqíxiǎng de xiǎngyào fùhuó tā. chákàn le xià lìshǐjìlù ，fāxiàn nǐ yě chūguò lì ，jìnrù nǐde zhǔ yè ，fāxiàn nǐ zài hànyǔpīnyīn pō yǒu zàoyì yǔ jiànshù ，nǐ hé wǒ hézuò yīxià ràng hànyǔ pīnyīn wéijī bǎikē zhègè xiàngmù zài Wikia chòngxīn fùhuó xíng ma ？

近日我在观看维基孵育场中暂停的汉语拼音维基项目的时候，突发奇想的想要复活他. 查看了下历史记录，发现你也出过力，进入你的主页，发现你在汉语拼音颇有造诣与建树，你和我合作一下让汉语拼音维基百科这个项目在Wikia重新复活行吗？ -七个点 (discuss • contribs) 13:18, 30 April 2017 (UTC)


 * Qǐngwèn nǐ yǒu shénme jiànyì?--Efex3 (discuss • contribs) 01:27, 1 May 2017 (UTC)
 * wǒ xiǎng wǒmen kěyǐ zài Wikia shàng zuò yīgè xiànzài zhōngwén wéijī bǎikē de hànpīn zhuǎnxiě bǎnběn ，zhèyàng kěyǐ ràng hànpīn xuéxízhě yǒu kěyǐ yuányǐn de duìzhào lìzǐ.
 * 我想我们可以在Wikia上做一个现在中文维基百科的汉拼转写版本，这样可以让汉拼学习者有可以援引的对照例子. -七个点 (discuss • contribs) 05:02, 2 May 2017 (UTC)

问题是怎样使 Wiki 接受你的建议？--Efex3 (discuss • contribs) 05:15, 2 May 2017 (UTC)

你指的是中文維百社羣嗎？-七个点 (discuss • contribs) 09:38, 2 May 2017 (UTC)
 * 请问你的建议是在哪里搞汉拼转写版本？你可以先搞一个样本出来以供参考吗？--Efex3 (discuss • contribs) 10:04, 2 May 2017 (UTC)
 * 可以，你等上一段時間可否，這段時間有點忙-七个点 (discuss • contribs) 10:27, 2 May 2017 (UTC)
 * OK--Efex3 (discuss • contribs) 10:29, 2 May 2017 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of "Pinyin/2016-10-30 The Ministry of Gender Equality and Family slashes 2017 budget for former comfort women"
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Good work!
Artix Kreiger (discuss • contribs) 21:29, 23 January 2018 (UTC)


 * Thanks for your appreciation. --Efex3 (discuss • contribs) 21:41, 23 January 2018 (UTC)

Chinese
What proficiency is your Chinese? Artix Kreiger (discuss • contribs) 03:50, 29 January 2018 (UTC)


 * Excellent. --Efex3 (discuss • contribs) 03:58, 29 January 2018 (UTC)

过年好！
昨天是农历新年，在此给阁下拜个年吧！

Yesterday is Chinese New year,and happy New year!

本人英语不是太好，请恕我在以下讨论中使用中文.

My English isn't very good.Please forgive me use Chinese in the following discussion.

看到上面有人要提议删除阁下的English-Hanzi，说实在的若我参与投票的话我是会投赞成票的，毕竟这本书可能与维基词典（Wiktionary）功能重复；尽管如此，我还是决定要参与到本书的编写工作之中，因为这可能对我自身的提高有帮助.

我计划将English-Hanzi全部检视一遍. 打算从现在工作到二月二十号，这之后我们学校就差不多要开学了；然后是为高考而复习，等我高中毕业后再重新开始.

最后烦请阁下在我的讨论页中放一个欢迎模板（welcome）. 来这么长时间都没人理我，我还是很受伤的.

R-COONa (discuss • contribs) 12:48, 17 February 2018 (UTC)

谢谢阁下的欢迎！顿时感觉生活又充满了希望.

另外 请问 阁下 是 打算 将 所有的 中文句子 的 词 都 用 空格 隔开 吗？倘 是 如此，我 在 之后的 工作 将 会 注意 这点 的. R-COONa (discuss • contribs) 13:18, 17 February 2018 (UTC)


 * 本人 觉得 分词连写 帮助 分析 中文 的 结构，对 学习 有 裨益. --Efex3 (discuss • contribs) 13:27, 17 February 2018 (UTC)


 * 祝 你 --Efex3 (discuss • contribs) 13:57, 17 February 2018 (UTC)

Wikibooks
It appears to me that for more than a year and a half you have been depositing massive amounts of material on English Wikibooks with complete disregard of warnings that much of that material does not belong here. At RFD batches of inappropriate "news" items keep being added, with the latest batch apparently created after the first batch. Wikibooks is not a place for you to throw stuff up willy-nilly and put the burden on our limited common admin resources (shared by all 3000 books in our collection) to see which of your submissions aren't appropriate; it's expected that admins only have to consider whether a few things fall outside project scope after each contributing member of the community has tried to stay within that scope.

I'm considering blocking you for long-term web-hosting/spam abuse of the project. --Pi zero (discuss • contribs) 04:10, 4 March 2018 (UTC)


 * I have not adding "news" for a long time. --Efex3 (discuss • contribs) 06:45, 4 March 2018 (UTC)

o see
 * After knowing that "news" is inappropriate for language learning material, I will never add "news" again.--Efex3 (discuss • contribs) 07:10, 4 March 2018 (UTC)


 * I am glad to hear this. Appreciated.  --Pi zero (discuss • contribs) 12:37, 4 March 2018 (UTC)


 * To be clear: that is not the only issue.  I do appreciate your cooperation on that point, and thank you; I take it the news entries stopped in late January of 2018?  You were warned about those a year and a half ago, at which time you were also warned about about dictionary entries; yet it took a year a half and administrators starting to intervene before you acted on one, and you have not acted on the other. --Pi zero (discuss • contribs) 12:51, 4 March 2018 (UTC)


 * I have been told that some pages are copyright violated, then I stopped adding copyright violated pages. Recently I have known that "news" is not suitable for language learning material, so I also stopped adding "news". Anyway, I won't add any "news" again.


 * About "dictionary entries", could you let me know what "dictionary entries" I have added recently?--Efex3 (discuss • contribs) 14:49, 4 March 2018 (UTC)


 * How would you characterize, say, English-Hanzi/Oxygen? --Pi zero (discuss • contribs) 15:09, 4 March 2018 (UTC)


 * It is not a "dictionary entry". It is a material for language learning only. It is also added annotations and word grouping for learning easier.--Efex3 (discuss • contribs) 15:23, 4 March 2018 (UTC)

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Requests_for_deletion
Please comment.--Jusjih (discuss • contribs) 03:43, 16 June 2018 (UTC)

Fixing "...the the (noun)..." to "...the (noun)...."
Hi, there!

I see you have removed my corrections here : https://en.wikibooks.org/w/index.php?title=Pinyin/News_summary/2015&oldid=prev&diff=3444107

But I do not understand why. Can you possibly explain? Holdoffhunger (discuss • contribs) 16:11, 19 July 2018 (UTC)


 * Sorry, it is removed by touching screen accidentally. Thanks for your amendments. Efex3 (discuss • contribs) 18:19, 19 July 2018 (UTC)


 * Thank you!! Holdoffhunger (discuss • contribs) 02:33, 20 July 2018 (UTC)