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Calculous Book question
Recently I got interested in Wikipedia so I decided to hjelp out with the Calulous Integration book. I was going to reorganize everything but I wanted to get your opinion first. thanks. --Stranger104 6 July 2005 02:56 (UTC)

stuff
Hey, don't be hating, dawg. -DX 06:37, 6 Sep 2004 (UTC)

What did I vandalize? -DX 06:34, 6 Sep 2004 (UTC)

See Talk:Programming:C_plus_plus. -- Paddu 08:01, 22 Feb 2004 (UTC)

By the way, the RACECAR thing wasn't advertising - it doesn't actually exist. r3m0t (cont) (talk) 00:12, 24 Feb 2004 (UTC)


 * *Shrug* :) Dysprosia 00:26, 24 Feb 2004 (UTC)

Thanks for the welcome... I have indeed been torn away from Wikipedia, because I really want to get a merit badge project going... TUF-KAT 07:07, 26 Feb 2004 (UTC)

Thanks for your message. I am not sure that homomorphisms really must come before isomorphisms. For example, Jacobson covers isomorphisms first is Basic Algebra I (of course, BAI is not the best organized book out there, but I don't think that that has anything to do with his putting isomorphisms first.) I like doing isomorphisms and Cayley's theorem early on because it gives a more concrete insight into where groups come from.

As for answers to exercises, I will certainly write some up, but I think it would be better to include some solutions, but not necessarily the even ones. Doing the even ones will make it more difficult later if we want to rearrange exercises.

Also, I was wondering what the goal is for this book. What is the audience? I am guessing that we are aiming at something at around the level of Herstein's Topics in algebra, perhaps with some additional topics, a more geometric approach (like talking about graphs of groups), treating linear algebra earlier, giving a more general treatment of Galois theory, etc. I used Herstein as my first book in algebra (actually, my first book in abstract mathematics) and certainly agree with you that a down to earth approach is needed. I suppose the main question is whether we want to assume that our readers have the knowledge and maturity from, say, a linear algebra class. Since abstract algebra was my introduction to higher mathematics, I can certainly see that if we are writing for newcomers to mathematics, we need to be very careful in the exposition.

Perhaps setting out a tentative outline on the talk page would be useful.

Thanks for your kind words. Dan Gardner 01:14, 26 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Physics book
Table of contents? Redirects? I dont understand, could you explain to me please? --Karl Wick 05:10, 16 Apr 2004 (UTC)


 * That new user created a new page at Table of contents, which I moved to Physics with transforms:Table of contents, but the user changed the links to point back to Table of contents which is just a redirect which should be deleted after a short while. It's okay now, I think the user got the point. I'll send you a holler if they do it again... :) Dysprosia 06:06, 16 Apr 2004 (UTC)

Siegfried Petry
Maybe he is ignoring everyone because he doesn't speak English? Theresa knott 14:37, 2 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Hi, Thanks for your welcome, I hope other amateurs will find this and offer their help too. Many hands make light work. It may take me some time to learn all the in's and out's of wiki but eventually I hope that this will be a manual I can use when I teach a licencing course. Good luck with your project .... Ed Baumann VE3SNW 08:24, 1 Aug 2004 (UTC)

wanna be a bureaucrat?
Due to User:TUF-KAT's vacation, we currently have no bureaucrats. When she made me an admin, Angela suggested I nominate a few users for bureaucratship, and so I'd like to ask you if you'd accecpt the nomination. Gentgeen 00:50, 17 Aug 2004 (UTC)


 * Yeah, sure, why not? Sounds good. :) Dysprosia 03:11, 17 Aug 2004 (UTC)

ok, you've been nominated. Gentgeen 04:58, 17 Aug 2004 (UTC)

mathematics
regarding the mathematics section, what names did you have in mind?

Mathematics page
I totally agree with your idea(s). I've changed one or two of the links, but it would be appreciated if you could help with changing the rest? Appreciated! --Jimmy 11:13, 2 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Chinese spamer
According to 221.196.x.x is assigned as portable addresses by CNCGROUP Tianjin Province Network - the China Network Communications Group Corporation ISP's range for the Tianjin Province in the People's Republic of China. It looks like we've got a dial up vandal getting a restricted range of IP addresses. Gentgeen 13:12, 5 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Bureaucrat?
Did someone promote you to bureaucrat already? I tried using Special:Makesysop to make you a bureaucrat, but it didn't work. There's a bureaucrat flag box that I could've sworn did it, but I never actually promoted any bureaucrats before... TUF-KAT 00:02, 24 Oct 2004 (UTC)


 * I just tried to access Special:Makesysop and it didn't work... Maybe I need to ask one of those steward people? I don't know... Dysprosia 01:14, 24 Oct 2004 (UTC)


 * Oh, I think I got it now. Can you access the page? TUF-KAT 05:07, 24 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 * You're in the bureaucrat log, so I guess it worked. TUF-KAT 05:11, 24 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 * Whee! Thanks :) Dysprosia 05:37, 24 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 * I was about to promote User:Yann, but would you like to do the honors? TUF-KAT 05:36, 25 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 * Done and done. Thanks :) Dysprosia 06:48, 25 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Organising Programming:C plus plus
As an experienced Wikibookian and a contributor to Programming:C, you are invited to give your opinion in the lounge and/or Talk:Programming:C plus plus about the discussions between new user Panic2k4 and me regarding how a book should be organised. Unfortunately not many have responded to my comment on the lounge.

Panic's line of thought seems to be tangential to my "wikipedia-trained" ideas about organising a wikibook. I was following the example of Programming:C to organize the book C++, but Panic seems to want everything in a single module, without wiki links in the running text. I am not sure want I could do about it, but I fear his /her efforts at reorganising material in the book might get wasted if we ultimately decide to have the material in separate modules.

My POV is that it is beyond doubt that we need many modules. But if that's how it'd end up, I'd like someone to tell Panic gently that he/she would've to be satisfied with multiple modules. Or else I'd like an experienced Wikibookian (Either my common sense or my ego is preventing me from digesting whatever Panic says) to tell me (sternly :)) that I'm wrong. My attempt to get a community verdict on this issue at the lounge seems to have failed miserably.

Also I see many of Panic's edits as POVs, e.g. "never use tabs, use only spaces". I'm not sure how to talk to him/her about this (though I'd already linked him/her to Neutral point of view. Also, I'd hope Panic doesn't get annoyed and leave from Wikibooks as he seems to be a good Wikibookian in the making. -- Paddu 14:38, 2 Nov 2004 (UTC)


 * Thanks for your 2c :)! BTW what Panic calls forks is having multiple modules/books on related (but not the same) topic. So it's not the fork that we dread. He/she was responding to my idea that (e.g.) C++, MFC and OOP are different books and one should not make the C++ book cover everything related to C++. e.g. like we have a book on Distributed Systems separate from the one on C. Panic says we should have just a single book until we get more material at which time we can "fork". -- Paddu 20:47, 3 Nov 2004 (UTC)


 * Hi again, User:Panic2k4 refactored Talk:Programming:C plus plus. I restored (uncommented) the past discussion and gave my reasons there. I'm not sure if such refactoring of talk pages not in the User_talk namespace is allowed. I'd like to know if what Panic did is correct, if what I did is correct and what we should be doing henceforth.
 * Archival is OK, removing text to suit some purpose of either editor is not. Dysprosia


 * Panic has explicitly mentioned that he/she won't bother about exploring wikibooks and keep contributing the way he/she likes. I suppose he/she doesn't already know how we work and doesn't want to know except by "spoonfeeding" (since he/she won't explore). Hence somehow he/she should be convinced by others to learn to work the way we do. What do we do in Wikibooks to handle "clueless newbies", if I may call either him/her or myself so? Unfortunately my posts in the Staff lounge don't evoke many responses, at least not by the time Panic has made a lot of edits. I'd like to know where to post such things (without troubling just you).
 * There's nothing so far, I'm afraid. This is a problem of Wikibooks since we get less traffic. Pages can be protected if need be to force discussions, but that's usually for the case of edit wars.


 * BTW is it OK for the image transcluded in Talk:Programming:C plus plus to stay? -- Paddu 13:10, 8 Nov 2004 (UTC)
 * I don't see any images. Dysprosia 10:26, 9 Nov 2004 (UTC)

After I tried responding to User:Panic2k4's comments and bringing back a proposal that I don't agree is dead, and replacing the &lt;h1&gt; headers with &lt;h2&gt; ones, he forked off Programming: C -/- -/- as well as Talk:Programming: C -/- -/-. I'm totally lost. -- Paddu 16:13, 18 Nov 2004 (UTC)


 * I've also asked User:Yann, a sysop mentioned currently in Special:Recentchanges, to help. -- Paddu 16:15, 18 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Troll watch
Troll watch: 67.115.107.84. You can see some of the edits made at:

Also, likely they have a user account at. Can we block the IP? --MShonle 05:47, 14 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for the block!
Thanks for blocking that new troll account. I was about to do it myself but I'm unsure of the procedure. Where do I post to let other admins know that action should be taken? In pure vandalism, am I allowed to block without conferals? --MShonle 03:39, 19 Jan 2005 (UTC)

example
regarding a comment on my talk page asking me to cite an example for "pages with real content sometimes disappear (in clear violation of policy) without even a vote"

It has been claimed that Cookbook:Human contained some real content. The person responsible for deleting the entry has not disputed this accusation; instead they claimed some sort of right to arbitrarily decide (without a vote) that such an entry did not belong.

Now, maybe it does not belong. This is a matter for a VfD. I suspect that the original page was indeed quite awful... but it still should be immune to an admin being jury, judge, prosecuter, and executionist. As a general rule, I'd like to see awful pages getting fixed instead of destroyed.

For some odd reason, I need admin rights to even investigate this sort of thing.

Admin bit
So, I've been listed on the Requests for adminship page for over 2 weeks now, and have 2 of 3 votes in support. (plus my own, of course) Could you set the bit soon? (I just found myself trying to move a page over an old redirect which unfortunately had some trivial history blocking me. Bummer.)

Meat_loaf and Meatloaf
There was a redirect from Meat_loaf to Meatloaf. Somebody blanked it out, commenting that the 1-word version was more popular. Since they did so, I am now unable to move Meat_loaf to Meatloaf. I gave a try moving Meat_loaf away first, but the redirect left behind was inelligable for move-over-redirect.

So, that's 2 trivial pages that ought to go.

Promotion?
Hello there. I've been listed on the requests for adminship page for quite a while now, and I was just wondering if you could promote me. Tally: 1/0/0. Thank you very much! -Frazzydee|&#9997; 18:14, 5 Mar 2005 (UTC)


 * Sure, I was thinking the same thing, but I've waited on it quite a while, and there haven't been more votes either way.
 * Actually, there are a couple admin tasks that I noticed yesterday, the most glaring being the upload form.
 * MediaWiki:Uploadtext


 * "make sure to read and follow the image use policy." should be

" make sure to read and follow the image use policy."


 * The sixth paragraph ("The preferred formats are JPEG...") needs nowiki tags around the Image: links. i.e. the code is [[Image:file.jpg]], when it should be [[Image:file.jpg]]  .  I'm not sure if you want to nowiki the media link to, but it should be consistent with the rest.  If you choose not to nowiki the media: link, then please add a colon the the start of the image tag (i.e. [[:Image)


 * The last paragraph has broken links:  should be Main_page (I think! Might want to preview this first ;) ). creating an account should be creating an account


 * Thanks for your help, and I understand your concern. I hope this hasn't been too confusing...it's a bit difficult to show what I'm talking about, probably because of the hundreds of nowiki tags :)  By the way, isn't the site notice ready to be taken down now? See you around :) -Frazzydee|&#9997; 15:32, 6 Mar 2005 (UTC)


 * Thanks so much for taking the time to clean that up for me. I think I missed a spot, and I'd really appreciate it if you could just do this one more quick thing.  "for use in illustrating pages." has an extra line break.  Can't the banner be taken down now? -Frazzydee|&#9997; 00:04, 8 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Admin task
Hi there. I'd appreciate it if you could do a few move/deletes for me, I want to add a new lesson near the beginning, so everything has to be moved down (i.e. lesson 2 should be moved to lesson 3, 3->4, etc.).

The page is at Turing, and I'm adding lesson 2. I've named it Turing:1.5 for now, but this should be moved to Turing:2. I'd appreciate it if you could also delete Turing:5 if you don't have the chance to do the whole thing now, it's a useless redirect that was created when I attempted to move everything without admin powers. -Frazzydee|&#9997; 02:33, 8 Mar 2005 (UTC)

front page vandal
get User:Gumba gumba quickly please

He's fast, and calling others vandals, and he screwed up templates and made subtle changes to old stuff.

Oh, and I'd have stopped him already if I were an admin. :-(

AlbertCahalan 19:22, 8 Apr 2005 (UTC)

please ban 67.95.199.114
Check out the Japanese article history.


 * 21:13, 11 Apr 2005
 * 17:52, 14 Apr 2005
 * 20:13, 21 Apr 2005

He also likes to trash Main Page, Cookbook:Recipes, Blender 3D: Noob to Pro, Jokebook, etc.

Why are these vandals not getting banned?

AlbertCahalan 21:26, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Simple English Wikibooks needs an admin!
I've just started working on Wikibooks in Simple English. We need to make someone an administrator. With very few other users (at the moment!) how can I become one and so start getting the project started? Any help would be great. Cheers Charlie123 14:17, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Computer programming/Types
got additions by AlMac effectively doubling the size of the article since prior folks like you last worked on it. I just thought you might like to see what I did to it. AlMac 23:49, 17 July 2005 (UTC)

Proposed policy overhaul
As effectively the top local user here, being that User:TUF-KAT is away until the end of August, I thought you might be interested in the following: I've started to think about changes to existing policy and project scope so that policies are more clearly defined (as suggested by User:Aya, who claims existing policies to be ambiguous) and more open (as suggested by User:Robert Horning, see the debacle concerning Biography of Nikola Tesla at Votes for deletion/Archive). I've made a post on textbook-l as a result, please reply to my talk page for feedback. KelvSYC 05:43, 26 July 2005 (UTC)

Image licence
Hi!

Can your Image:Modulus and argument.png (and some others) can be used in Slovene Wikipedia? Under what licence? Regards, --Andrejj 07:16, 12 September 2005 (UTC)


 * Of course. I've just tagged the image, just follow the license. Dysprosia 05:47, 8 October 2005 (UTC)

VFD result
In reviewing the Votes for deletion/A guide to cheating during tests and examinations, particularly the contributions and reputations of those who voted to delete and those who voted to keep, that the consensus result is to delete. I do not want to delete it myself because I participated in the discussion.

I think it is time that we resolve both this case, and the much harsher Votes for deletion/The Manual of Crime case. I believe Jimbo's words should lead a reasonable person to delete. Since both are so high profile, I think an admin should do the deletion. While we are still deciding the new policy, I don't think we need to wait to delete. We already know what the result is. --MShonle 18:55, 20 September 2005 (UTC)


 * I don't see a clear consensus yet on the cheating guide yet, so it may be wiser to let debate continue further first. The crime manual dehate however has been resolved. Dysprosia 05:44, 8 October 2005 (UTC)


 * And what was the resolution? --MShonle 18:22, 8 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Ah, never mind, I had to click back further in the deletion logs to find it. --MShonle 18:31, 8 October 2005 (UTC)

Template:BSD
Hello. If you add templates, please remember to add them to WB:TM - otherwise noone will use them. Thanks. --Derbeth 08:36, 8 October 2005 (UTC)