User talk:Cacumer~enwikibooks/Hud and Hel

Request for Review
In the Portuguese version of the talk, a Wikipedian helped me realize that this book is not good, in its current state, to be in Wikibooks. I'm really sorry that that's the reality, as I was expecting more from Wikimedia.

I understand Wikimedia is not commercial and exists on donations and that's no easy job. I don't understand, however, why it cannot group with Google, although I think it's most likely due to small different internal ideas between the parts.

I am not asking for an exception here. The request is to either review and see if the book could be classified in some way into any of the Wikimedia projects (such as Wikisource) or if Wikibook rules could be reviewed since novela.wikicities has only less than 20 projects in English, which would be of no great impact in Wikibooks.

If I have to remove my material from Wikimedia, it will be to a new place that I have yet to discover or to a private hosting. For example, it will not go to Wikicities, because it doesn't seem to be an organization that is as serious as Wikimedia, and it won't go to Google, because there is no place.

I don't believe I am the only user / author who is frustrated at not being allowed to publish a "simple" GNU FDL book onto a good trustworthy webpost, and I hope I can move forward to a new opening on Wikimedia.

While I am not new to the whole wiki thing, I am still inexperienced with all facets of Wikimedia and am not sure where I would post this request, so I'm posting it in here and will later try to find a better place to link on to here.

Probably nobody will read it until I do so, but I can only try.

Thanks for your time.

--Cacumer 06:38, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

It was suggested that I could ask for removal of the article myself in order to make the process go faster than the usual 7 days that would take an administrator to ask for an article removal.

I won't do that. I understand it wouldn't be fair for others to make an exception for me, and that's exactly why I'm not asking for one. I'm asking for a review on the rules, and I can help in doing that. I don't know how to help, what's the best way, and who I should speak to. I just hope it won't be as slow as it is within the Law because, even while wiki has rules, it should be a land with no Laws.

I think Wikibooks can and should reconsider in accepting all content in novelas.wikicities.com because it contains just a few articles, no more than 30, and it wouldn't disturb Wikibooks, while being that big. Maybe it will grow, and if so, what's the problem? The novela and fiction market is something that will pay off if it hits big. In addition, fiction can be a good learning tool and provide interesting information in a fun way. That's exactly because if it's well done, it's just a better way to teach. Almost like a children's book, a fairy tale. In reality, although it starts off as fiction, I want to do a fairy tale. And I am starting where I feel is best.

I will fight until the end to make this stay in Wikimedia, it doesn't need to be Wikibooks, but anywhere inside here, because I love this community and I want to improve it with this. If I cannot win this fight, what can I do? I'll just move away. I'll accept defeat and go look at some other host who will be able to do this for me. But I will not ask for a removal because I still have hope on this.

So if anyone who is reading this request can provide any information to help me on this fight, please do so. It will be more than welcome. I know that the rules against novela and fiction were basically made due to lack of funds. I know it is hard for Wikimedia to support so many collaborators and to filter and select certain kinds of content to be able to do anything at all. What I don't know is why Wikimedia chooses to be 100% free and live only from donations while it could be so much better doing something entirely different. It is certainly admirable, but why use a knife in a warfield if you can at least protect yourself inside a bunker while using the same knife to cut bread and have some butter? Take a look in www.opensource.org. They have a really good idea on how to apply opensource into our capitalist world, without losing the whole noble concept. Although I think those 10 rules could significantly increase, they do give us a whole new perspective on how opensource should be in today's world.

With that said, I also hope that one day soon, Wikipedia will be able to walk under its own steam, instead of having to appeal to donators in every page as such happened in December, and restricting content due to lack of resources. How is that any better than using ads? It was even more aggravating than any Google ad. But it was a "donation request" for this "noble cause." "Please help".

C'mon, Wikipedia can be a lot better than that! :)

--Cacumer 04:04, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

No fiction and no essays
Not only does Wikibooks not allow fiction, but it does not allow essays.

The intention is that each Wikibook is an instructional material. It serves as a reference to teach, not to promote some opinion. So for example, we can have a book about US History, but not a book explaining why US history is better than Canadian History, nor a fictional story where the characters like the United States more than Canada. --Kernigh 03:49, 25 February 2006 (UTC)